posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 10:02 PM
originally posted by: anzha
a reply to: RadioRobert
However, I don't think that's what the Russians are avoiding. I think they've been hit in the pocket book a bit too hard for too long.
It's both. They have immediate needs and long-term needs and only so much money. They could probably pump out several dozen Su-57's a year, but why
if you can't afford enough of them to meet immediate needs and you'll have to spend even more on upgrading them to a future standard in the not so
distant future? I haven't expected FRP for a long-time, so I haven't been disappointed.
I still think there is going to end up being a redesign around the new engine. It's typically not as easy as plugging in (even though supposedly that
is the goal). It likely needs more mass flow for the increased thrust numbers they are looking at. They are going to have the typical gremlins with
the new engine and more problems when they move from hand-builds to mass produced ones. They are still doing work on the real 3D nozzles, which will
result in some CG work because of the weights. Etc, etc.
I think most of the disappointment is from people who took the unrealistic "in-service" dates and marketing/ BS over the past few years seriously.
They still want foreign investment so they are going to talk up whatever they can, but noone should have seriously believed they were headed for a
They just need money and time. I don't know that they can afford to start over again or wait on a new program. Probably 2022 before the design freezes
for mass production. All the marketing BS/complaining about the time line isn't going to change anything between now and then. If it was having
really serious issues, they wouldn't continue spending on LRIP until they had things nailed down. They have enough airframes to collect data and serve
as test beds. What they need is enough to learn the quirks about operating them, identifying and developing fixes or workarounds for the problems that
pop up in operations that don't get identified during DemVal, developing tactics, etc Then when they've got it more or less frozen, they can start
buying them en masse.
We're still in (largeish) LRIP lots and JAST/JSF is three decades old!