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originally posted by: 727Sky
a reply to: Stupidsecrets
You are totally missing the point. The Mexican border with the USA is 1,954-miles (3,145 km) .. Like I said 219 miles at 5 billion plus dollars ain't nothing if you want to seal the border.
originally posted by: Breakthestreak
a reply to: scrounger
It will be deep.
It will be high.
It will be thick.
It will be supplemented with technology. Ground penetrating radar to detect tunnelling. Satellite surveillance. Camera technology.
It will be patrolled.
It will be very, very effective.
NOBODY will be scaling the flucken thing with a bamboo pole.
originally posted by: scrounger
when it comes to the wall (and other activities to stop illegals from coming in, getting jobs, getting aid, ect)
I am SO SICK AND TIRED OF "IT CAN BE (TUNNELED, CLIMBED, ECT)" EXCUSES
do you have locks on your house?
those can be broken, picked, and otherwise rendered useless.
by your logic dont lock your house because it "can be breached"
do you have a password on your on line banking?
since it can be hacked by your logic do you not have one?
do you have keys for your car?
they can be bypassed and your car hotwired. By your logic do you not have keys for your car?
Hell we have laws against murder, drug dealing, car jacking, child abuse, and rape
because people do these crimes and because some dont get caught and/or dont face justice by the wall logic do we get rid of all laws and punishments?
this blanket logic because someone can / does find a way to defeat the wall FAILS when applied to other things.
NOTHING BUT DEATH IS 100 PERCENT EFFECTIVE
given the logic of anti wall people do they apply it to their houses in regards to locks?
bet not...hence HYPOCRITES
Look the wall IF BUILT RIGHT and maintained correctly wont stop everthing but it will make a SIGNIFICANT difference .
if you do nothing the problem WILL BE WORSE.
Let me end with this.
currently the most modest estimates on what illegal aliens cost the US TAXPAYER is 300 BILLION DOLLARS (probably alot more realistically) .
the wall highest cost estimate is 70 billion with a yearly estimated maintenance of 300 million.
if the wall is ONLY 25 percent effective (LOWEST estimated effective for sake of discussion) the first year savings would be 75 BILLION. that translates into the wall built and 10 YEARS of maintenance with 2 BILLION LEFT OVER.
every year after that is gravy.
now to be fair 25 percent is well below realistic effectiveness. but if the savings are that great at the low number it only gets better from there.
2. the wall will go ON THE BOARDER... so claiming the "land they are on for generations" is in no way gonna be divided by a wall.
Chapo, agrees to a discount of $5000 per kilo. He also wants a courier to pick up his money in Chicago and says he'll call Pedro back.
The second call comes in a half hour later on the same day. Chapo again mentions, that Chicago is the pickup point and even mentions his courier's name (Lazaro). Then he puts another guy on the line to give Flores Lazaro's number and to set Benjamin as Flores code name.
I will say that Pedro and Margarito are the stars of this trial. They may be the biggest gift ever given to the DEA. Clearly it is their testimony that is impenetrable, because it is not bad guy testimony given on its merit, but a mountain of collaboration and hard evidence to support what they say. In the end they had enough to potentially put away over 4 dozen bad guys. His cooperation included making telephone conversation recordings, multiple ones with Chapo himself. And Other key players.
The Flores twins were born in Chicago, raised in Little Village. La Villita, the two mile slice of Mexico authenticity set within one of the most famous cities in United States.
The twins were born to a housewife and a small time drug dealer.
For years, the Flores twins ran a drug distribution ring out of Chicago that shipped thousands of pounds of narcotics to wholesale customers in New York, Washington, Cincinnati and other cities.