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Topic started on 26-2-2005 @ 03:06 PM by soficrow
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Canada is part of NORTHCOM according to Rumsfeld and Bush.
For those who are confused, NORTHCOM is the foundation of Patriot Act 2 and the continental "integration" of military command structures,
immigration, police and intelligence. Oh yeah, and trade.
The creation of NORTHCOM announced in April 2002, constitutes a blatant violation of both Canadian and Mexican territorial sovereignty. Defense
Secretary Donald Rumsfeld announced unilaterally that US Northern Command would have jurisdiction over the entire North American region. Canada and
Mexico were presented with a fait accompli.
Rumsfeld is said to have boasted that "the NORTHCOM – with all of North America as its geographic command – 'is part of the greatest
transformation of the Unified Command Plan [UCP] since its inception in 1947.'"
Following Prime Minister Jean Chrétien's refusal to join NORTHCOM, a high-level so-called "consultative" Binational Planning Group (BPG),
operating out of the Peterson Air Force base, was set up in late 2002, with a mandate to "prepare contingency plans to respond to [land and sea]
threats and attacks, and other major emergencies in Canada or the United States".
The World is at the crossroads of the most serious crisis in modern history. The US has launched a military adventure which threatens the future of
humanity. It has formulated the contours of an imperial project of World domination. Canada is contiguous to "the center of the empire". Territorial
control over Canada is part of the US geopolitical and military agenda.
The BPG's mandate goes far beyond the jurisdiction of a consultative military body making "recommendations" to government. In practice, it is
neither accountable to the US Congress nor to the Canadian House of Commons. According to the defense policy journal Canadian American Strategic
Review, the BPG is "more than 'just an informal discussion group' … it seems to show some signs of evolving into a formal command in its own
right."
Bush's Military Agenda
Now this is worth pause, and thought.
Also see:
US Threatens Canada's Airspace: Ignores International Law
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reply posted on 26-2-2005 @ 03:37 PM by namehere
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no northcom has nothing to do with any laws, northcom is a military zone of defense, or the US northern command, youre way off on this, way off.
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reply posted on 26-2-2005 @ 03:40 PM by soficrow
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Originally posted by namehere
no northcom has nothing to do with any laws, northcom is a military zone of defense, or the US northern command, youre way off on this, way off.
You need to read the material. References are made explicitly to policing immigration etc.
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reply posted on 26-2-2005 @ 04:01 PM by namehere
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sofi, youre wrong, its not any such thing, its mission is defense of north america and assist in civil support(disaster assistance missions) and
counter drug/terrorism missions, its only 1200 people for the whole continent, not enough to police anything, they only come if fema, batf, fbi, or
any federal agency is having trouble.
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reply posted on 26-2-2005 @ 08:54 PM by soficrow
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Originally posted by namehere
sofi, youre wrong, its not any such thing, its mission is defense of north america and assist in civil support(disaster assistance missions) and
counter drug/terrorism missions, its only 1200 people for the whole continent, not enough to police anything, they only come if fema, batf, fbi, or
any federal agency is having trouble.
Okay - I will research more. ...Someone talked about it (credibly) on another thread earlier - and I did some quick reading. It does sound like it has
the capacity to snowball - "defense of north america and assist in civil support and counter drug/terrorism missions" covers a WHOLE lot of
territory as we've learned through the Patriot Act and other anti-terrorism measures...
...If you have something concrete, would like links. Thanks.
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reply posted on 26-2-2005 @ 09:24 PM by marg6043
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I found the web site of NORTHCOM and I also found this,
U.S. Northern Command's area of operations (AOR) is America's homefront.
The AOR includes air, land and sea approaches and encompasses the continental United States, Alaska, Canada, Mexico, and the surrounding water out to
approximately 500 nautical miles. It also includes the Gulf of Mexico, Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands. The defense of Hawaii and our
territories and possessions in the Pacific remain the responsibility of U.S. Pacific Command.
Its under Homefront.
www.northcom.mil...
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reply posted on 26-2-2005 @ 09:34 PM by Starwars51
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Originally posted by soficrow
Canada is part of NORTHCOM according to Rumsfeld and Bush.
For those who are confused, NORTHCOM is the foundation of Patriot Act 2 and the continental "integration" of military command structures,
immigration, police and intelligence. Oh yeah, and trade.
I am curious - since the US has a unified command that covers all of these items for every region of the globe - does that mean that we are infringing
on the rights of every country in the world?
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reply posted on 26-2-2005 @ 11:51 PM by lmgnyc
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NORTHCOM is significant because it is the final nail in the coffin for the already weakened 1878 Posse Comitatus Act, which prohibited the U.S.
military from participating in law enforcement activities on U.S. soil. This was put in place because of the obvious need to protect Americans from
the temptation to control citizens with military force and to essentially turn the U.S. into a military dictatorship. There are reasonable exceptions
that have been made throughout history, such as when the military lends "passive assistance", like equipment, to law enforcement.
A big reason why the military needs to barred from civilian confrontations is that law enforcement is specifically trained to deal with the public and
to use force as a last resort--the military typically will be quick to use force.
Posse Comitatus was weakened twice in the 90's under Clinton to allow military participation to protect Americans against terrorism, but NORTHCOM is
much broader and much more dangerous--especially because it extends to ANYWHERE in North America and there is no Presidential approval required before
acting.
The military can now assist in non-military events such as "crisis management, consequence management, and other domestic civil support." In
addition, in the event that the national threat level is assessed to be red, Northcom will be a big part of coordinating the emergency government.
According to Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge (22 December 2003): "If we go to (code) Red ... it basically shuts down the country." In
which case, a national emergency is declared. Northern Command deploys its forces on air, land and sea. Several functions of civilian government are
transferred to Northcom headquarters, which already has the structures which enable it to oversee and supervise civilian institutions.
In other words, Northcom's "command structure" would be activated in the case of a code red terror alert. But Northcom does not require, in
accordance with the provisions of the 1999 DAA, a terror alert, an attack or a war-like situation to intervene in the country's civilian
affairs.
globalresearch.ca...
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reply posted on 27-2-2005 @ 07:02 AM by soficrow
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Originally posted by Starwars51
Originally posted by soficrow
Canada is part of NORTHCOM according to Rumsfeld and Bush.
For those who are confused, NORTHCOM is the foundation of Patriot Act 2 and the continental "integration" of military command structures,
immigration, police and intelligence. Oh yeah, and trade.
I am curious - since the US has a unified command that covers all of these items for every region of the globe - does that mean that we are infringing
on the rights of every country in the world?
Maybe that's what the rest of the world means when they talk about "US military expansionist policies."
Sorry namehere - NORTHCOM obviously needs some serious scrutiny.
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reply posted on 27-2-2005 @ 08:26 AM by Dallas
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You know after reading the thread header yesterday I go right on an email and sent it Ottawa. I'm not fooling myself that it would make a difference
or even be viewed from the top.
However, if enough people were to send Ottawa something indicating the type of concerns that are directly related to soficrow's iimportant quote and,
well that's better than none I would think.
Another thing, this US Ambassador to Canada - Salucci or whatever his name is, does he just carry that gun around, or does he get to shoot people
(countries) with now and then.
Dallas
Dallas
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