a reply to: okrian
ok lets look at the issue you raised.
first "financial irresponsible oversized monument to his base"
you do know that illegals cost the taxpayer over 300 BILLION dollars annually?
that is a conservative estimate (to which i suspect its quite more) on incarceration, crime, and social services (from welfare , schooling, medical,
this does not take into account money shipped back to mexico, loss of wages/benefits to LEGAL citizens, ect.
given that the cost of the wall max is 70 billion with roughly 300 million to maintain.
If the wall is ONLY 50 percent effective, that means building it AND MAINTAINING IT for 10 years will cost 73 billion thus leaving roughly 75 BILLION
savings to us taxpayers in the FIRST YEAR ALONE with the wall BUILT AND MAINTAINED FOR 10 YEARS.
every year after that is then around 150 BILLION SAVINGS .
even if the wall was only 25 percent effective...
by the figures given your first year savings would PAY FOR THE WALL AND 10 YEARS OF MAINTENANCE.
the rest of the time 75 BILLION A YEAR SAVINGS TO TAXPAYERS.
so your comment about it being " fiscally irresponsible oversized monument to his base" at the lower 25 percent effectiveness (which is guessing
UNREALISTICALLY low by any standards) is factually BS.
"Doesn't do anything to curb the hiring of illegals. If he actually cared he'd block the hiring of illegals and severely punish
corporations/businesses that hire them."
while a good point on the outside misses a few FACTS.
some republicans are as you say, but most of the people fighting implementing what you suggest are LIBERALS/DEMOCRATS (including obama).
lets take a little test.. who said/did it..
"they (illegals) are doing jobs americans wont do "..... DEMOCRATS.
"they just want to make a better life for themselves so its not bad there here"..... DEMOCRATS.
"Fought e-verify tooth and nail claiming racism, doesnt work, ect" ....... DEMOCRATS.
Who had the majority for two years in every part of politics , and didnt propose ONE DAMN THING YOU STATED..... DEMOCRATS AGAIN.
who mostly grants illegals DRIVERS LICENCES ......... DEMOCRATS.
who fought cutting welfare for ABLE BODIED AMERICAN CITIZENS to make them get jobs (yes even done by illegals).....DEMOCRATS.
So again while SOME republicans did side with issue you brought up....MOST WERE DONE BY DEMOCRATS.
now the big one...
who mostly is fighting DEPORTING ILLEGALS...... democrats.
so on second issue (you factually are WRONG and ideologically bias on who your calling out.
lastly on the "promise of mexico paying for the wall"
mexico to put those funds they were supposed to use to improve themselves and STOP THE ILLEGALS .
I guess you missed the point of the SAVINGS the wall would have, the ideas such as TAXING transactions of money sent back to mexico and also cutting
aid to cover the cost of the wall.
but I guess things like that as they all were DOABLE kinda torpedo your old well used talking point
now are you gonna follow the usual talking points by calling me "unchristian", blind trump supporter, racist, anti immigrant or just go to the