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BREAKING: Partial Government Shutdown Will Begin at Midnight

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posted on Dec, 21 2018 @ 11:14 PM
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Having followed this the following the following can be stated:

This is all the Republicans and they are responsible for this, including Trump.

The Republicans hold the majority right now in both the House and the Senate. There is no reason for this shut down. McConnel could have used the Nuclear option to get this through and pass a budget, but he chose not to.

So if anyone is to blame, it would be Ryan, McConnel, and Trump. They hold all of the cards right now, all of the power, and could have easily, passed this with no one to stop them.




posted on Dec, 21 2018 @ 11:20 PM
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a reply to: sdcigarpig
Wanna bet who blinks?



posted on Dec, 21 2018 @ 11:22 PM
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originally posted by: JinMI
I don't feel any different. I don't think it's working.


Is Christmas cancelled?


The government checks in your fireplace stocking will have to be deposited twice !!!

The lumps of coal will have to be returned to the Obama Foundation !!!

"now what ?"



posted on Dec, 21 2018 @ 11:23 PM
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a reply to: sdcigarpig

Go Republicans GO !! πŸ˜†



posted on Dec, 21 2018 @ 11:25 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

No gov't checks here..ever.



I mined that coal wit' me own two hands!



posted on Dec, 21 2018 @ 11:25 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: sdcigarpig

Go Republicans GO !! πŸ˜†

They are. Retiring, voted out. There they go.



posted on Dec, 21 2018 @ 11:26 PM
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a reply to: Phage

Turn the page?

*Insert Bob Segar vid*



posted on Dec, 21 2018 @ 11:28 PM
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originally posted by: sdcigarpig
Having followed this the following the following can be stated:

This is all the Republicans and they are responsible for this, including Trump.

The Republicans hold the majority right now in both the House and the Senate. There is no reason for this shut down. McConnel could have used the Nuclear option to get this through and pass a budget, but he chose not to.

So if anyone is to blame, it would be Ryan, McConnel, and Trump. They hold all of the cards right now, all of the power, and could have easily, passed this with no one to stop them.


So Ryan (progressive) and McConnel (progressive) cannot seem to pass a bill that is against what the progressives want.

The only card Trump holds right now is veto power.

Which he can't use, because no bill has been presented to him.

You really need to brush up on American politics...



And for the record, constitutionally the only tool Trump has right now is veto power.

I personally hope that he just sits at his desk with his arms crossed until a bill comes with wall funding on it.

NOTHING else signed until that comes to his desk.

It's the only real weapon he has.



posted on Dec, 21 2018 @ 11:37 PM
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Does the government stop functioning at midnight in each time zone, similar to how the New Year is rung in?



posted on Dec, 21 2018 @ 11:40 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

A stalemate is when your King cannot move without putting itself in check but it also not in check. It ends the game. When most people refer to "stalemate" when referencing politics they really mean is "Zugzwang" which refers to a "position in which whoever has the move would obtain a worse result than if it were the opponent's turn to play".

And yes I am part of the Chess Police. We also get frustrated with the way the boards are setup in movies/tv but as to the point of this thread . . .

You have to do a lot of mental gymnastics to not pin this on Trump. Regardless of your views on him, he very clearly and directly said that he was owning this.



posted on Dec, 21 2018 @ 11:43 PM
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a reply to: entermemo

Fair.

However, how can he own it when there is nothing to veto?



posted on Dec, 21 2018 @ 11:57 PM
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Who cares. Leave it shut down.

Would anyone notice?



posted on Dec, 22 2018 @ 12:08 AM
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a reply to: Lumenari

Oh I am up on politics as it stands, especially the American politics. The question is valid and the points are equally valid.

Ryan holds the majority in the House. He gets to determine the bills voted on, and sets the agenda. And the Republicans hold the majority in the House, and able to pass anything really without the democrats voting in favor of such. Thus that holds the House side.

McConnell holds the Senate. He is in charge, and determines the bills that are up for a vote. And the Republicans hold the majority in that chamber as well. McConnell has used the Nuclear rule, before, so there is that precedent on that. So there is no reason to think that he can not or will not do such.

So the question is why this shut down, if the republicans hold the majority in both chambers, and by simple majority, via the nuclear rule, pass anything in the senate, does this shut down need to happen?



posted on Dec, 22 2018 @ 12:11 AM
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a reply to: Lumenari

That is only going to work until Jan, of 2019, when the Democrats will have the House, and thus able to override his veto.

Politics, is part art, part stage magic, and ultimately a poker game. And knowing when it is time to fold. Shutting down the government may seem like a good idea, the reality is far different. After all, if it remains shut down, there is one group that may have other ideas, and they may not be so forgiving, and we pay them.



posted on Dec, 22 2018 @ 12:19 AM
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Three government shutdowns in 2018!



The first shutdown of 2018 began at midnight EST on January 20. On January 19, a bill failed to pass the Senate 50–49 with the majority of Democrats voting "no".[45] Five Republicans voted "no" and five Democrats voted "yes" in the Republican majority senate (60 votes were required for passage). Senate Democrats insisted that the issue of immigration, specifically the funding of DACA, be addressed in the budget. Republicans refused to include the issue, saying that the deadline for DACA and immigration was not until mid-March.[46][47] A stop-gap that would fund the government for four weeks passed the House of Representatives, and Republican Senator Mitch McConnell proposed a three-week stop-gap.[45] The government reopened on January 23.[48]

The second funding gap of 2018 began at midnight EST on February 9. It was the second shutdown in a month. [49] President Trump in the morning hours of February 9, signed the bill into law, stopping the second government shutdown. The spending bill included an increase to the country's borrowing limit and funded the government through March 23, 2018, disaster relief for Texas, Florida and Puerto Rico and $300 billion for other programs over two years, including the military.[50] The most recent government shutdown will occur at midnight on December 22, 2018 as both houses have adjourned without passing a bill. [51]

The third shutdown of 2018 began at midnight EST on December 22.[52] On December 20, President Donald Trump announced he would not sign any spending bill unless it contained over $5 billion in border security.[53] An agreement could not be reached before funding lapsed.

Source: en.wikipedia.org...

According to the Mainstream Media, every shutdown is a catastrophe that's worse than a Cat-5 Hurricane.



posted on Dec, 22 2018 @ 12:44 AM
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um...wasnt mexico to pay for this wall?

now we have to?

sounds like bait and switch to me. the dems are just holding the president to his campaign promise.



posted on Dec, 22 2018 @ 12:57 AM
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a reply to: stormson

In 2015 candidate Trump floated the idea of using seized funds from drug raids to pay for the wall. An average of $8.2 Billion is seized by Federal authorities annually.

This week, Senator Ted Cruz suggested using the $14 Billion seized from Mexican drug lord, El Chapo.
Source: www.americanthinker.com...



posted on Dec, 22 2018 @ 01:13 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: TheRedneck




Which is to pass a budget that the President will sign.

This is not a budget.


A CR was the next best thing to an actual budget according to Dems for a certain amount of time during a certain era.

I mean, why else didn't they pass an actual budget when they had a super majority and the WH?



posted on Dec, 22 2018 @ 01:18 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

Sounds like Mexico paying for the wall to me.

Since you know, the cartels are Mexico.



posted on Dec, 22 2018 @ 01:30 AM
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a reply to: SKEPTEK

Man, you are a real MAAAAAAN

What else can I say about him in this picture)







 
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