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I think we can all agree that the most valuable thing a person should seek in life is meaning and not purpose , it is clear that traditional religion indeed gives the average individual a sense of personal meaning which allows people to live a fulfilled and happy life. However believing in a purpose can be dangerous because it suggest that there is an objective reason for our existence or why we live , for religious people this type of thinking can lead to Fundamentalism and for Atheists it usually leads to Nihilism.Text
originally posted by: toms54
a reply to: whereislogic
The rich man and Lazarus are in Paradise, is this heaven and hell?
And where Jesus went after he died is called hell. I really haven't fit these into my thinking yet. Maybe after that video.
originally posted by: whereislogic
originally posted by: toms54
a reply to: neutronflux
I don't really see much value looking for evidence of hell in the old testament. It is mostly a Christian belief. As far as I can tell, the idea of a soul that is separate from the physical body is completely absent from the first five books.
Yes. That is the only part of your comment that is true. The rest of what you wrote is your usual nonsense that has nothing at all to do with the quote. It does not demonstrate evidence of hell in the old testament or the idea of a soul that is separate from the physical body.
What is the origin of the myth?
In ancient Babylonian and Assyrian beliefs the “nether world . . . is pictured as a place full of horrors, and is presided over by gods and demons of great strength and fierceness.” (The Religion of Babylonia and Assyria, Boston, 1898, Morris Jastrow, Jr., p. 581)
The ancient Egyptians believed in the immortality of the soul, and they had their own concept of the afterworld. ...
The Indo-Iranian religions developed various beliefs on punishment after death. Concerning Hinduism, ... “There are innumerable descriptions of the 21 hells imagined by the Hindus. ...”
Jainism and Buddhism both have their versions of hell, where impenitent sinners are tormented. Zoroastrianism, founded in Iran, or Persia, also has a hell—a cold, ill-smelling place where the souls of sinners are tormented.
Christendom’s doctrine of punishment in hell originated with the early Babylonians. Ancient Babylonian religious concepts and practices are found in religions worldwide.
“Egypt, Persia, and Greece felt the influence of the Babylonian religion . . . The strong admixture of Semitic elements both in early Greek mythology and in Grecian cults is now so generally admitted by scholars as to require no further comment. These Semitic elements are to a large extent more specifically Babylonian.”—The Religion of Babylonia and Assyria (Boston, 1898), M. Jastrow, Jr., pp. 699, 700.
Babylon the Great: The World Empire of False Religion
1 Peter 4:6 King James Version (KJV)
6 For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.