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originally posted by: BlackJackal
originally posted by: eXia7
originally posted by: BlackJackal
originally posted by: eXia7
Look man, it's expensive to be the world police all the time. We've literally been in perpetual war for decades, clearly we aren't making a dent in fixing the middle east's problems.
How much more money can we really afford to give to these wars, and rebuild all the # that gets destroyed? How many more generations do people expect to shoulder the burden of debt to fight banker wars?
We have been putting the largest percentage of our budget into defense for the last 70 years. Do you think that is going to change? Trump even raised the defense budget by a record amount and yet now you are concerned about spending money on defense? Where were you when they passed the budget? Because if you were ok for the budget then you don't have an argument here.
Plus, even if we do pull out of Syria we will still spend the same on defense next year that we did this year. There will be no saved money.
I'm fine with a defense budget. Not an invade all 3rd world oil rich countries and destabilize their country so we can steal their resources and manipulate their governments budget.
Ok, so are you saying we invaded a peaceful Syria and threw it into chaos? Surely not....
Syria was involved in a civil war that allowed ISIS to grow. We stepped in once ISIS started carrying out attacks abroad. What should we have done? Nothing? Allow ISIS to grow unimpeded? Allow them to keep carrying out terror attacks abroad?
What should we have done?
It was and still is a clandestine proxy war that was contrived and initiated during the Obama administration collusion with Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Hillary Clinton"s State Department to oust Assad so a pipeline could be built through Syria into Turkey.
originally posted by: worldstarcountry
a reply to: BlackJackal
Well I don't see what you are worried about truly, especially when I laid out all the assets and bases to show you we are not actually going anywhere. Rojava is not really part of Syria anymore. It has been split off. So all the troops are simply falling back.
But you tell me Jackal, is Trump the biggest liar and everything he says are lies, or is he telling the truth this one and only time because it suits your narrative for this thread??
originally posted by: BlackJackal
originally posted by: kingsquirel
originally posted by: Jonjonj
a reply to: BlackJackal
It's incredible really, a few people have echoed this in the thread, but I will have my say.
You disgust me, with your pathetic attempts at anti-presidential rhetoric; you could give absolutely no f**** whatsoever about
American boys and girls risking their lives, and losing their lives, as long as you get your impeached president.
Shame on you.
A non-American.
Well said my exact thoughts; As not only our men and women are dying for a war that is not ours, but this destabilizing of other soveirgn nation states with mass migration as its consequence needs to stop and stop now
Such short memory. The only reason we are there is because ISIS was killing American civilians. We are not fighting in someone elses war, this is for American interests.
What is said is that if Obama was the one who made this decision you could easily see the logic but since it's Trump you fall in line like a good dog.
originally posted by: eXia7
originally posted by: BlackJackal
originally posted by: eXia7
originally posted by: BlackJackal
originally posted by: eXia7
Look man, it's expensive to be the world police all the time. We've literally been in perpetual war for decades, clearly we aren't making a dent in fixing the middle east's problems.
How much more money can we really afford to give to these wars, and rebuild all the # that gets destroyed? How many more generations do people expect to shoulder the burden of debt to fight banker wars?
We have been putting the largest percentage of our budget into defense for the last 70 years. Do you think that is going to change? Trump even raised the defense budget by a record amount and yet now you are concerned about spending money on defense? Where were you when they passed the budget? Because if you were ok for the budget then you don't have an argument here.
Plus, even if we do pull out of Syria we will still spend the same on defense next year that we did this year. There will be no saved money.
I'm fine with a defense budget. Not an invade all 3rd world oil rich countries and destabilize their country so we can steal their resources and manipulate their governments budget.
Ok, so are you saying we invaded a peaceful Syria and threw it into chaos? Surely not....
Syria was involved in a civil war that allowed ISIS to grow. We stepped in once ISIS started carrying out attacks abroad. What should we have done? Nothing? Allow ISIS to grow unimpeded? Allow them to keep carrying out terror attacks abroad?
What should we have done?
I don't know, maybe bombed all those convoys obama ignored? Might have saved a lot of time and effort.
originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask
and it was bush that let the radicals in Iraq raid saddam's arsenals and walk away with the arms...
who then went underground and came back out as Isis....
guess they need to update their arms again maybe??? time to split and run and leave some goodies for them for the next round?
originally posted by: Vector99
originally posted by: BlackJackal
originally posted by: kingsquirel
originally posted by: Jonjonj
a reply to: BlackJackal
It's incredible really, a few people have echoed this in the thread, but I will have my say.
You disgust me, with your pathetic attempts at anti-presidential rhetoric; you could give absolutely no f**** whatsoever about
American boys and girls risking their lives, and losing their lives, as long as you get your impeached president.
Shame on you.
A non-American.
Well said my exact thoughts; As not only our men and women are dying for a war that is not ours, but this destabilizing of other soveirgn nation states with mass migration as its consequence needs to stop and stop now
Such short memory. The only reason we are there is because ISIS was killing American civilians.
In Syria?!?
Have you actually lost your mind or do you just like posting bullsh*t?
ISIS FACTS
- Started as an al Qaeda splinter group.
- ISIS aims to create an Islamic state called a caliphate across Iraq, Syria and beyond.
- In 2014, ISIS controlled more than 34,000 square miles in Syria and Iraq, from the Mediterranean coast to south of Baghdad.
originally posted by: knoxie
a reply to: DBCowboy
I though isis was defeated? we're there now to assure it stays that way. until at the very least a plan is in place. why the rush?
do you want isis to flouish again? that's like crapping on all those who fought prior.
originally posted by: worldstarcountry
a reply to: dawnstar
a reply to: BlackJackal
so then are you subtly admitting that this pulling troops out of Syria is another lie you do not trust? Is that accurate?
originally posted by: knoxie
i'm astounded some of you would ditch your allies in a snap cuz pres. bone spurs AGAINST long standing military officials.
mind boggling really. bunch of weak ass pusses..
it's quite apparent now who the putin lovin trump supporters are, tho. patriots they are not, patriots don't leave allies without a plan, period.
originally posted by: Jonjonj
originally posted by: knoxie
a reply to: DBCowboy
I though isis was defeated? we're there now to assure it stays that way. until at the very least a plan is in place. why the rush?
do you want isis to flouish again? that's like crapping on all those who fought prior.
You speak with the logic of a child, are you a child?
Because a president decides that it is in American interests to walk away from what is, in fact, a proxy war, you decide to invoke the spirits of those who have died to berate him.
One day son...
originally posted by: Propagandalf
a reply to: BlackJackal
I'm sure you were out there rebuking Obama's policies which led to the forming of ISIS in the first place. No, it was crickets, wasn't it.