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Same Sex Marriage Left Out Of Cuba's New Constitution Despite Popular Support

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posted on Dec, 19 2018 @ 03:14 AM
Damn, I did not even realize they were at this point of a new constitution, and I know so many Cubans. I sure have no heard anyone discussing it out in the open at stores and eateries and such.

Anyways these are only drafts and they said they would just delegate defining marriage to a family code, whatever that is.

AFP News
Havana (AFP) - Cuba will leave out of its new constitution changes that would have paved the way for legal same-sex marriage, despite majority support in local assemblies, a government official said Tuesday.

It was a surprising twist given public support nationwide for the reform and earlier remarks from lawmakers in the Americas' only one-party Communist regime.

The measure would have changed the definition of parties in a marriage from man and wife to "between two people."

But "the draft constitution will not define which parties enter into a marriage... So that is now out of constitutional reform discussions overall," Council of State secretary and drafting coordinator Homero Acosta was quoted as saying by state media.

The full draft constitution was put before neighborhood and workplace assemblies for debate between August and November.

posted on Dec, 19 2018 @ 04:37 AM
Well you know what, I have nothing at all against Gay's but Good on em, SAME sex marriage makes real marriage a laughing stock, why can't they simply have civil partnership's with the same right's and protections as REAL married couples.

Also it is blasphemous for any church to hold such a mock ceremony in it's precincts.

But then the bible did say it would be as it was in the day's of Noah before the second coming.

And I don't think it will damn there soul's but I also definitely do NOT think the lord approves.

Marriage is a religious institution around which the family is meant to be built, children with both a secure MOTHER and a secure FATHER figure to give them solid role model's, it is also how the human race is supposed to behave.

Civil partnership is a modern practice that gives the same right's as married couples and in those nation's which practice it apply's to gay partners as well as straight partners.

You know what I believe, there are so many people whom are altered in this way in today's world because of a deliberate poisoning of the human race, pharmaceutical's and cosmetic's have infected the water table, male and female fertility is dropping, androgynous children are being born with ever increasing frequency even as the birth rate is dropping catastrophically and the human race if an intervention from above does not come is headed for extinction because of a runaway population control conspiracy by a group of moral retards with money and degree's.

So in my opinion there are two types of Gay's, Natural Gay's and Engineered Gay's.

Natural because even though they had wives Greek athlete's left love letters scratched onto wall's man to man, the understudy's of Spartan masters little boy's were also there lovers (which obviously is sickening and wrong on so many level's but it was there culture).

Artificial or engineered because - Chemical's that mimic female hormones in males and interfere with natural hormonal function while interfering with female hormonal function in woman and mimicking male hormones in them have been found throughout the water tables of many developed nations, PCB's from electrical insulators are another culprit and of course what the hell are they spraying with all of those chem trail leaving plane's.

One way to control population is to control Hormone's and interfere with hormonal development, how many victim's will actually stand up angrily and deny that they are actually victim's just because of PRIDE crap allowing that the scum that committed this crime to go Scot free and continue what they are doing to the rest of us.

posted on Dec, 19 2018 @ 04:44 AM
Don't be a Gaycist Cuba!

posted on Dec, 19 2018 @ 05:21 AM

originally posted by: Lysergic
Don't be a Gaycist Cuba!

They're already geometricist. Why exclude triangleians? Why only cubans?

Down the the fascist anti-angles...

posted on Dec, 19 2018 @ 06:03 AM

originally posted by: LABTECH767

Why should everyone have to live by your perception of your particular religion? I've been married for 14 years. Our wedding was not a religious ceremony. We made babies like sky wizard intended.

If we're going to keep the government involved in marriage, then it's equality for everybody. Sorry, that's how a free country works.

IMO, government should not be involved. No more marriage licenses. Marry who you want, how you want.

posted on Dec, 19 2018 @ 06:07 AM
a reply to: gallop

Those damn flat-landers!!!

posted on Dec, 19 2018 @ 06:25 AM
What do you call a gay Cuban peeping Tom?

i peek at da guy yo

posted on Dec, 19 2018 @ 07:46 AM

originally posted by: LABTECH767
Well you know what, I have nothing at all against Gay's but Good on em, SAME sex marriage makes real marriage a laughing stock, why can't they simply have civil partnership's with the same right's and protections as REAL married couples.

I marriage has not threatened the validity of mine at all. Sorry that yours is so fragile.
I thought that Cuba might do better...but it's not like it's a done-deal in the States, is it?
I'm glad that Canada has decided that same-sex marriage is just fine.

posted on Dec, 19 2018 @ 07:51 AM
a reply to: worldstarcountry

Just because you believe something doesn't mean someone else will succome to your beliefs,gay marriage does make a mockery of it,every country has it's freaks kind of like opinions

posted on Dec, 19 2018 @ 08:10 AM
a reply to: worldstarcountry

Heaven forbid a sovereign country decides to define there own codes.

posted on Dec, 19 2018 @ 09:00 AM
Have no problem with free people being together in a sexual relationship, but to call a bond between entities that cannot create life a 'marriage' is where I find belittlement in the word itself.

What is the reason gays, or whatever other sexuality, want the title of "married couple"? Equal benefits can be giving to all partnerships, but one that has the ability to create life seems to be the pinnacle of relationships itself, and ought to be revered.

We can have equality, as far as treatment goes, without giving their union the name "marriage". I find "marriage" to be the union of OPPOSITES to create the whole, or anew life. (despite folks that like to claim "marriage" is something forced upon daughters by kings)

The union between man and woman must stand separate, and above, other relationships; for the sole reason that it is the only way to create life. (arguing about test tube babies is futile, they are merely a middle man/an added step between the man and the woman). This can be done simply by selectively using the word marriage. When humans operate outside of the accepted anatomical functions/norms they are labeled defects/handicaps/impairments. Sexuality outside of heterosexuality is JUST FINE, but let's be honest and call a square a square.

Labtech is on point.
edit on 19-12-2018 by chadderson because: (no reason given)

posted on Dec, 19 2018 @ 09:24 AM
a reply to: LABTECH767

While i agree that it is blasphemy for church to perform the ceremony of the sacrament of holy matrimony on same sex couples... i am proudly part of a parish that does not.

the state has no right to bar 2 individuals from entering into the contractual agreement that we, for convenience sake, happen to also call marriage.

posted on Dec, 19 2018 @ 09:59 AM
And I thought we all loved capitalism. How could we ignore the potential for revenue for lawyers to proceed with divorce procedures as well as the additional court fees?? Lawyers spend money at fine dining and frequently need their boats and expensive cars Maintained and cleaned as well as anyone else.

There is a market that can increase these revenues by at least 10% for their economy overall. Who would think it wise to deprive the economy of double digits increases of revenue??

Not to mention the extravagant wedding is falmbouyant people tend to lean towards. No this will not do. I personally see marriage as antiquated concept of ownership over each other anyways, but the extra money towards the economy being g generated should not be ignored.

posted on Dec, 19 2018 @ 10:29 AM

originally posted by: chadderson

So is it also wrong for straight people to get married if one or both of them are sterile?

posted on Dec, 19 2018 @ 11:24 AM

originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: chadderson

So is it also wrong for straight people to get married if one or both of them are sterile?

Or divorced, with no plans for children? Or any number of variables that would make Leviticus twitch? Hell, is it time to haul out the old 'Letter to Dr. Laura'?

Dear Dr. Laura:
Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the other specific laws and how to follow them:

When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord — Leviticus 1:9. The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness — Leviticus 15:19-24. The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

Leviticus 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination — Leviticus 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

Leviticus 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Leviticus 19:27. How should they die?

I know from Leviticus 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

My uncle has a farm. He violates Leviticus 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? — Leviticus 24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Leviticus 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.
Your devoted fan,

Which is all a way of saying that if one is cherry-picking which of 'God's Laws' one is going to observe, then one is thereby defining one's personal prejudices.
edit on 19-12-2018 by JohnnyCanuck because: ...just because!!

posted on Dec, 19 2018 @ 01:31 PM
Here in America we just call it marriage.

Shame about Cuba though.

posted on Dec, 19 2018 @ 01:44 PM
They flirt with the biggest human rights lover - Putin. I guess that's nuff said.

posted on Dec, 19 2018 @ 01:48 PM

originally posted by: KiwiNite
They flirt with the biggest human rights lover - Putin. I guess that's nuff said.

Not so much flirtation since the Russians left them to starve when their empire collapsed. Now, China...

posted on Dec, 19 2018 @ 06:12 PM

originally posted by: LABTECH767
SAME sex marriage makes real marriage a laughing stock

This thread alone is a great example of how the general population of ATS is stuck in the stone ages. Luckily the kids today overwhelmingly could care less and this type of idiocy & sentiments such as these will be left in the homophobic-religious dust.

By the way, straight people are doing a pretty good job of making "real marriage" a laughing stock these days. "Do as your president does kids. Don't you worry about that pregnant wife of yours, go bang some models and porn stars, and hey, don't wear a condom either, just to make it real sketchy. Just be sure you have a lot cash so you can (try) to make all the sins wash away. It's the American way"

Eyes really rolling.

posted on Dec, 19 2018 @ 08:09 PM
a reply to: okrian

You really have no idea what you are talking about, the stone age indeed well I would rather be a man than a lemming.
Whose breath (Spirit) is it - it is still his and always shall be, corrupting the way's of the Lord by worshiping the flesh and seeking after carnal pleasures while impoverishing and torturing that very soul within, making the eternal suffer for the sake of the momentary who does this serve for it certainly is not God.
I believe in Equal right's but they must be given and taken NOT by harming or diminishing the right's of other's.
I believe in Justice and Morality not an age in which little unformed children's mind's are brainwashed by sick people into accepting that which is both unnatural and actually harmful to there spiritual development.
Oh I could go on and on and on but hey why not let them continue to blindfold the world to the hole they are leading it into, it's not us that will be living in the stone age, hiding in caves it is the immoral, uncultured, pagan vile perversion's that shall lead this civilization into a new stone age as you call it a new dark ages.

I Choose the Lord whom or what do you Choose.
- the Flesh.
- To NOT believe in a higher purpose and something greater than the self and see that what is happening is wrong.
- Greed that self serving spirit impoverishing hunger of the carnal man.
- The FALSE age of Reason grown out of the true age of reason that hero worship's atheist doctrine and denies the soul itself.

Would you willingly give a child poison knowing that they do not understand or would you rather try to tell them the right way.

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