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In the United States recognized the inability to withstand hypersonic weapons of Russia

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posted on Dec, 18 2018 @ 10:37 AM
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Washington does not have missile defense forces that are sufficiently effective to protect against hypersonic weapons of Russia and China, the report says the US Accounts Chamber. Reports about it RT.




“China and Russia are pursuing hypersonic weapons because their speed, altitude, and maneuverability may defeat most missile defense systems, and they may be used to improve long-range conventional and nuclear strike capabilities,” the report by the Government Accountability Office (GAO) reads.

A source

It is already known that the first Avangards will be received by one of the regiments of the Dombarovsky unit of the Strategic Missile Forces in the Orenburg region. All the necessary infrastructure for operating the complex has been established here, the position area has been prepared geologically and engineeringly, cables for power supply lines, communications and command and control have been laid, training of personnel, weapons, military and special equipment has been organized.

It was reported that the United States invested more than $ 100 billion in its missile defense system. Now it turns into an unnecessary expensive toy.




posted on Dec, 18 2018 @ 10:44 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

Wow, the military cant stop a missile that russia doesnt even have.
I bet russia couldn't stop the hypersonic missile America doesnt have either...



posted on Dec, 18 2018 @ 10:46 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

There are no existing countermeasures by anyone against a boost glide weapon, or hypersonic antiship missile. There is also currently one hypersonic missile system that's even close to being in service that isn't an ICBM. So while the ICBM missile defense system has been a waste of money, it's not because it can't stop a hypersonic missile that didn't exist when it was initially developed.



posted on Dec, 18 2018 @ 10:48 AM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: RussianTroll

Wow, the military cant stop a missile that russia doesnt even have.
I bet russia couldn't stop the hypersonic missile America doesnt have either...


Of course not, do not worry. And Putin is not, and the Russian VKS in Syria is not, and in general, Russia is not, this is a fake to justify the work of the Muller Commission)))



posted on Dec, 18 2018 @ 10:52 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

Why would the Russians be worried?
They know the US will not attack them unprovoked.



posted on Dec, 18 2018 @ 10:56 AM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: RussianTroll

Why would the Russians be worried?
They know the US will not attack them unprovoked.


I will tell you a secret - absolutely all Russians care what happens in the United States and what the United States can or cannot do. Russians always rely only on themselves and build their policies solely on the basis of their national interests. And the best allies of Russia are its army, military space forces and fleet.



posted on Dec, 18 2018 @ 11:35 AM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: RussianTroll

There are no existing countermeasures by anyone against a boost glide weapon, or hypersonic antiship missile. There is also currently one hypersonic missile system that's even close to being in service that isn't an ICBM. So while the ICBM missile defense system has been a waste of money, it's not because it can't stop a hypersonic missile that didn't exist when it was initially developed.



Ummm...precisely...

Yet...the deployment and implementation of missile defense systems...especially in Eastern Europe...certainly didn’t negate or forestall hypersonic systems from being developed by the Russians...

One could argue that those missile defense systems in Europe and Alaska were more of a catalyst for technological development to defeat such systems...

Perhaps if the West hadn’t pursued encroachment...especially into areas that were former agreement non encroachment areas as per Eastern Europe then we might not find ourselves making such admissions...





YouSir



posted on Dec, 18 2018 @ 11:41 AM
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originally posted by: RussianTroll
Washington does not have missile defense forces that are sufficiently effective to protect against hypersonic weapons of Russia and China, the report says the US Accounts Chamber. Reports about it RT.




“China and Russia are pursuing hypersonic weapons because their speed, altitude, and maneuverability may defeat most missile defense systems, and they may be used to improve long-range conventional and nuclear strike capabilities,” the report by the Government Accountability Office (GAO) reads.

A source

It is already known that the first Avangards will be received by one of the regiments of the Dombarovsky unit of the Strategic Missile Forces in the Orenburg region. All the necessary infrastructure for operating the complex has been established here, the position area has been prepared geologically and engineeringly, cables for power supply lines, communications and command and control have been laid, training of personnel, weapons, military and special equipment has been organized.

It was reported that the United States invested more than $ 100 billion in its missile defense system. Now it turns into an unnecessary expensive toy.



Where exactly did they say that in that pdf?. Yes, they are an emerging threat and the US has been working on variety of countermeasures.

You wouldn't announce you could shoot down something till you actually need to do it. They won't be shot down with other missiles would be my guess.



posted on Dec, 18 2018 @ 11:53 AM
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a reply to: pavil

You seem too lazy to read. I can not help

Report of the United States Audit Office.

"China and Russia have focused their attention on hypersonic weapons, because their speed, height and maneuverability can hit most missile defense systems, weapons can also be used to improve the capabilities of conventional and long-range nuclear weapons. Countermeasure does not exist."

A source

I can crawl a lot of sources and English-speaking and Russian-language media. But it would be insulting to your ego)))



posted on Dec, 18 2018 @ 12:03 PM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

This is why I believe we will soon see nukes in space. The arms race is back on.



posted on Dec, 18 2018 @ 02:20 PM
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a reply to: YouSir

If you think they weren't already pursuing hypersonic weapons long before any missiles were put into Europe you need to go do some research. Hypersonics is one of the most difficult areas of aerospace research. Unlike other fields it's going to take another 10 years before we see anyone put a non-ballistic missile based weapon into large scale production. Russia has been working on them for probably 30b years, just as we have.



posted on Dec, 18 2018 @ 02:28 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

Whatever the US is working on is long overdue. Our ICBMs are so old they still use floppy discs. These missile treaties are all that's kept us from updating them.



posted on Dec, 18 2018 @ 02:43 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

You are right that such studies are very long-term and are being conducted by Russia and the USA for decades. But I do not agree with you that the reason for the emergence of hyper-weapons in Russia was exclusively the appearance of American medium-range missiles and missile defense elements in Europe. Banning land-based medium-range missiles is not a panacea for war. After all, the United States and NATO had a sea base of these missiles. For Russia, there is no big difference. For Europe and especially the United States, the treaty was more beneficial. Especially for the USA. You could threaten Russia with a whole class of missiles, thinking that you yourself remain safe. In addition, the United States and Europe are waging a real war with their proxy troops on our territory, and it is Russia that is experiencing all the “charms” of a hybrid war. From the treaty on US missile defense out.

The logical question is, what remains for Russia to do in a similar situation? Only one thing - to develop such a weapon that would nullify the advantages of the United States and NATO. This Russia is engaged. A new military doctrine of Russia has been adopted, which makes it possible to strike with all available weapons, including intercontinental nuclear weapons, even in the event of aggression by non-nuclear forces against it. And even more, such a blow is possible if Russia decides that aggression against it is inevitable. In this case, no one can sit out across the oceans, and this is now a powerful deterrent.

I think that experts from the United States and Russia, far from political jabber in the quiet of their cabinets, are negotiating a new global balance, because it is he who will be the guarantor of deterrence and peace. Politicians remain politicians, and specialists - specialists. They always understand each other better than politicians.



posted on Dec, 18 2018 @ 03:31 PM
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originally posted by: toms54
a reply to: Zaphod58

Whatever the US is working on is long overdue. Our ICBMs are so old they still use floppy discs. These missile treaties are all that's kept us from updating them.


Sometimes simple code is better code.

What would you rather do, run the ICBM bases on windows 10 connected to the internet? Or dated bullet proof code.



posted on Dec, 18 2018 @ 03:34 PM
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a reply to: toms54

Lockheed was recently awarded two contracts for hypersonic weapons. The first is the Hypersonic Conventional Strike Weapon, which will use existing technologies. The second is the Air Launched Rapid Response Weapon. The AARW will use new technologies and push the boundaries on capabilities. The contract calls for both to see prototypes flown by 2021.



posted on Dec, 18 2018 @ 05:24 PM
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originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: toms54
a reply to: Zaphod58

Whatever the US is working on is long overdue. Our ICBMs are so old they still use floppy discs. These missile treaties are all that's kept us from updating them.


Sometimes simple code is better code.

What would you rather do, run the ICBM bases on windows 10 connected to the internet? Or dated bullet proof code.


Please, don't make me insult you.



posted on Dec, 18 2018 @ 05:45 PM
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originally posted by: toms54

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: toms54
a reply to: Zaphod58

Whatever the US is working on is long overdue. Our ICBMs are so old they still use floppy discs. These missile treaties are all that's kept us from updating them.


Sometimes simple code is better code.

What would you rather do, run the ICBM bases on windows 10 connected to the internet? Or dated bullet proof code.


Please, don't make me insult you.


Go for it.

Worse comes to worse I learn something new.

Doubt you'll change my perspective though. The drones have been hacked and keylogged, and the military didn't foresee our secret bases being mapped by fitbit like devices and excersize trackers.

So please tell me why we should trust the same decision makers to fix a problem that isn't broken.

Be my guest.



posted on Dec, 18 2018 @ 06:10 PM
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a reply to: RussianTroll




best allies of Russia are its army,military space forces and fleet


military space force huh?

Someones had an extra glass of the Putin Kool-aid



posted on Dec, 18 2018 @ 06:16 PM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

Would Russia attack US unprovoked, i dont think so, but I'm not brainwashed by propaganda.



posted on Dec, 18 2018 @ 06:23 PM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

Probably thirty or forty years behind the US black budget - secret government - equivalent program's.

The Burran was a space bomber developed by the Soviet's, despite non proliferation agreement's the US undoubtedly also developed it's own space platform's and there are likely thousands' of shrouded satellites made with early stealth composite and light absorbent material's dormant floating around above the globe just waiting for a target and activation, they would of course be able to drop there kinetic tungsten or even stealth bodied depleted uranium ordnance onto targets from orbit, these kinetic impact weapon's would hit with the force of a small nuclear blast even though there only nuclear material is simply for density and penetration purposes as they would hit like a meteor strike, a precise and co-ordinated rain of meteor's onto Russian (And now Chinese) weapon deployment and storage sites.

The US also has the capability of using it's massive rail gun launch facility's to place rapid waves of these into orbit silently since they would only use there thrust once in orbit to adjust trajectory and head to target orbit's, these rail gun facility's you may remember are actually the purpose of many of the deep underground military bases in part due to them being SDI era weapon system's for both defense and space deployment roles, they are only capable of launching unmanned objects though since the G-force inherent in them is highly destructive and would literally pancake a human occupant.

There is actually currently NOTHING the Russian's or the Chinese have that even come's close to the black budget secret government capability's of the US should they ever come to blows, not even close in fact but as far as traditional weapon's and the much slower pace of ordinary military and more public science is concerned that is another matter.

Of course it is highly dangerous not only to external factors but also internal for any such group/sector or agency within a nation to have potentially far more military and technological power than it's host nation and for that power to be so far beyond the oversight of that nation's leadership and by default it's electorate as may be the case with the US black budget sector, it's a bit like letting the lunatic in the family hold a six round revolver with one bullet in the chambers and hoping they don't pull the trigger when that bullet is in the barrel.

Russia as far as that analogy is concerned may be a very similar boat with it's Yemantu mountain complex which you know is the largest KNOWN facility in the world.

In fact that makes the runaway black budget secret government a potential threat to world peace in and of itself, but it is also a case of if we have one they must too so it's going nowhere any time soon.

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