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Anti-Trump dossier author was hired to help Hillary challenge 2016 election results

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posted on Dec, 24 2018 @ 01:43 PM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: chr0naut

So you dont understand our system?
It's cool.


Sure do.

270 voters can steal an en election from 360 million people. No matter how you want so much to believe otherwise, that is the truth of your system.

Political parties can concentrate their efforts into winning only those very few votes that count and all the rest can be safely ignored - because they don't actually count.

That is why all your news media talk about the importance of "swing states", every time there is an election.




posted on Dec, 24 2018 @ 01:46 PM
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a reply to: chr0naut

270 votersĀ 

I am in awe of your astounding ignorance.
Do continue on.



posted on Dec, 24 2018 @ 03:22 PM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: chr0naut

270 votersĀ 

I am in awe of your astounding ignorance.
Do continue on.


The Electoral College consists of 538 electors (not the sum of the numbers of states). These are not corporate entities, they are individual people whose votes stand in proxy for the citizenry of the US. 270 represents a majority.



posted on Dec, 24 2018 @ 03:43 PM
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a reply to: chr0naut

And what are the state laws for such genius

Nice fail tho

Like I posted its complicated and we understand you dont get it
Keep parroting the talking points tho
Let's us know exactly where you stand



posted on Dec, 25 2018 @ 01:09 AM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: chr0naut

And what are the state laws for such genius

Nice fail tho

Like I posted its complicated and we understand you dont get it
Keep parroting the talking points tho
Let's us know exactly where you stand


No matter how hard you shuffle a deck of cards, it still remains the same deck.

In a state with a large number of electoral votes. The party who gains the largest number of votes, even if the margin of winning is tiny, gains the entire ticket of electoral college electors for that state. This step marginalizes and invalidates the votes of people who may have been in the majority if their votes had been counted along with other states where their particular choice represents a majority. By discarding 49.999 % of the votes, you introduce an imbalance.

Then the electoral college voters also, although selected by the winning party of the state, are not forced to vote for their supposed parties but can be 'faithless electors'.

What might induce them to vote differently from their pledged party? There could be a number of reasons but you cannot rule out simple greed. Since you only need 270 votes to win the Presidency, You could simply pay off electoral college electors to either abstain or invalidate their vote (say by voting for Sanders instead of Clinton, as happened in 2016. In the 2016 election there were 7 faithless electors and a further electors 3 had their votes invalidated, so it isn't unusual and there must be inducement to do it, despite penalties). Financial inducement would only cost a few million dollars (because you only have to target a few) and as long as you could keep it on the down-low, it could change the election. It is interesting to note that in the 2016 election, the 10 votes that went against their party pledges were all Democratic party voters, which may implicate the Republican party (who won the electoral college election despite loosing the popular vote) in wrongdoing (wake up and smell the covfefe).

These are just two different ways that the Electoral College system distorts 'the mandate of the people' and is open to manipulation, some of which is done quite overtly.

edit on 25/12/2018 by chr0naut because: (no reason given)



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