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BUSINESS: Wal-Mart can't shake its Little Town Blues, NYC plan foiled

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posted on Feb, 26 2005 @ 12:44 PM
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New York City officials said Vornado Realty Trust has scrapped plans to build Gotham's first Wal-Mart store. Wal-Mart had said Dec. 6 that it would open a new unit in the humble Rego Park neighborhood of Queens. But after dissent from residents and union leaders, the plans were scrapped.
 



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NEW YORK - A real estate developer scrapped plans to build the city's first Wal-Mart store amid intense pressure from residents and union leaders.

The decision, announced by city officials Thursday, comes as a blow to the retail giant, which has sought for years to move into the lucrative New York City market.

The company had announced Dec. 6 that it would open a new store in the Rego Park neighborhood of Queens.



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Could this be a sign of the future when it comes to Wal-Mart expansion plans in big cities? We all know what they have done to most small town retailers and that is truly sad. Frankly I applaud NYC for turning them down. It is about time someone stood up to the bully of the retail world.

I wonder what Wal-Mart would have done once the store was built only to find out the majority of its employees would want a union? I say this only because; I know how NYC feels about unions.

Now let’s hope that California does the same in their large cities.




posted on Feb, 27 2005 @ 01:58 AM
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It's Brooklyn's loss. Albuquerque has 448,000 residents and seven Walmarts. When you factor in the climate, this is heaven.



posted on Feb, 27 2005 @ 08:19 AM
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Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
It's Brooklyn's loss. Albuquerque has 448,000 residents and seven Walmarts. When you factor in the climate, this is heaven.


What did you do build a new one over night? Wal-mart says there are only 6 in "the city of Albuguerque".

Also how is it Brooklyn's loss? If anything I would say it is their gain simply because the smaller stores can remain in business.



posted on Feb, 27 2005 @ 08:27 AM
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Originally posted by shots

Also how is it Brooklyn's loss? If anything I would say it is their gain simply because the smaller stores can remain in business.




Sorry shots. NY city is gonna lose out on the international corporate takeover. When the rest of the country is paying monopoly prices, all you'll have left is independent competitive business. Poor NYC.



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posted on Feb, 27 2005 @ 08:38 AM
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Originally posted by soficrow
Sorry shots. NY city is gonna lose out on the international corporate takeover. When the rest of the country is paying monopoly prices, all you'll have left is independent competitive business. Poor NYC.

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Yeah imagine that, they will be free to do whatever they want.

Or are you implying that it is a bad thing to do?

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posted on Feb, 27 2005 @ 10:00 AM
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Originally posted by shots

Originally posted by soficrow
Sorry shots. NY city is gonna lose out on the international corporate takeover. When the rest of the country is paying monopoly prices, all you'll have left is independent competitive business. Poor NYC.

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Yeah imagine that, they will be free to do whatever they want.

Or are you implying that it is a bad thing to do?

[edit on 2/27/2005 by shots]




Jeez no!

Sorry, thought I made that clear.


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posted on Feb, 27 2005 @ 10:10 AM
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Just wanted to make sure, I thought that was what you meant but honestly was not real sure. Never hurts to ask ya no!



posted on Feb, 27 2005 @ 10:14 AM
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Well when big business like Wal-Mart gets to big they start to die out, we already had other businesses that had that problem, they build all around and at the end they get to big for their own good.



posted on Feb, 27 2005 @ 11:54 AM
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I like how they say "opposition" from Union leaders. It was probably more like "Yuos bring that store here, whats in it for us, you know what I'm saying". I keed, I keed. Seriously, this amazes me that there are no Walmart stores in NYC. I can't drive 35 miles in any direction without finding a Walmart or Sams Club. I hate to see little mom and pop stores go under, but you have to admit that everything you need, at lower prices, in one loaction is kind of appealing.



posted on Feb, 27 2005 @ 02:08 PM
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Originally posted by shots
What did you do build a new one over night? Wal-mart says there are only 6 in "the city of Albuguerque".

Also how is it Brooklyn's loss?


Walmart is building a new store on South Coors at Rio Bravo. The last time I was down there it was looking to be very near completion. That would be number seven, smart pants.

It's Brooklyn's loss because they will have to continue to buy products at inflated prices to support all those small businesses. The fact is that even in Albuquerque where there seems to be no Walmart saturation point, small business thrives. Not only that but we have three major mallls.

Walmart is part of a very vibrant business climate. About the only businesses that are in imminent threat from Walmart are the grocery stores and frankly, the ones here either need to get in step with the times or fold. Grocery store prices are too high and the choice of products too small.

Walmart is successful for only one reason. They provide what customers want at prices they can afford in one convenient location. Only a socialis nincompoop coulnd't see the advantage in that.



posted on Feb, 27 2005 @ 02:12 PM
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Walmart is successful for only one reason. They provide what customers want at prices they can afford in one convenient location. Only a socialis nincompoop coulnd't see the advantage in that.


They do so, by getting thier products on the cheap from China and thier labor works for minimum wage with little to no health benefits. You do know that the Consumer and the Worker are one and the same right?

EDIT: I have not had the pleasure of having a Wal-Mart in my area yet, but its getting built and I will take lots and lots of before pictures and lots of after pictures and IF the presance of a Wal-Mart does as you say and lifts the local economy then I'll agree with you. But I have been to some smaller Canadian towns where they have a Wallmart, an LCBO, a Beer Store and a bunch of abandoned store fronts. IF my area turns out like this, then I will be declaring war on Wal-Mart. Doesn't make me a Socialist, but it DOES make me a protectionist.

[edit on 27-2-2005 by sardion2000]



posted on Feb, 27 2005 @ 02:13 PM
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All while practically everything they sell is manufactured in China. Where the workers are practically being exploited... That's WalMart for ya.

Edit: Sardion beat me by a minute...




[edit on 27-2-2005 by TheBandit795]



posted on Feb, 27 2005 @ 02:20 PM
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In addition Bandit, they push their store brand name "Value" and for some reason they target low income families, and I cannot understand why their junk food is so cheap.
and so available all over the store.

I still support my local Commissary, I guess after been a military wife for so long.

And I also notice that their meat section always has a foul smell, I wonder if is just me.

[edit on 27-2-2005 by marg6043]



posted on Feb, 27 2005 @ 02:22 PM
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Nobody has to shop or work at Walmart. I know a woman whose husband was making $60,000. a year as an assistant manager at Walmart just a couple of years ago, the last time we discussed it. All the Walmart employees I know are happy with their jobs. They do have minimum wage jobs at Walmart, but they also have opportunites for advancement.

If you would actually go to a Walmart or actually speak to someone who works there you would know more than the glib sound bites that the ill informed always provide when they have no direct knowledge.

[edit on 05/2/27 by GradyPhilpott]



posted on Feb, 27 2005 @ 02:28 PM
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Originally posted by GradyPhilpott

If you would actually go to a Walmart or actually speak to someone who works there you would know more than the glib sound bites that the ill informed always provide when they have no direct knowledge.


Hey I live in a small town and we have the biggest super wall mart in the area, and that store is over a million dollar a week store, in a small town, so you can imagine that they employ most of the people around that other wise will not work at all, and still they do not last long working.

They don't have a good turn around. But the store makes a killing, even at night the store is the local hang out place of choice.

It makes people addicted



posted on Feb, 27 2005 @ 02:31 PM
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The following is what I saw a few months ago on a PBS special about walmart.

americanradioworks.publicradio.org...



posted on Feb, 27 2005 @ 02:39 PM
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Interesting link Bandid, I remember that wal-mart was opening a store in China but I didn't know that they are on joint ventures, to flood American markets.

Beside I was watching today on TV something about US wanting China to loan the money or investors to cover for the privatization of social security? because our government with the deficit can not afford to do it.

We will be own by China.


I though Japan was at one time taking over.



posted on Feb, 27 2005 @ 02:51 PM
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NYC unions are dominated by mafia types, believe me this is not a win for the little guy. Here in NY almost everything is twice as expensive as elsewhere in the country, a Walmart would have been a welcome addition.



posted on Feb, 27 2005 @ 05:47 PM
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Originally posted by marg6043
Interesting link Bandid, I remember that wal-mart was opening a store in China but I didn't know that they are on joint ventures, to flood American markets.

Beside I was watching today on TV something about US wanting China to loan the money or investors to cover for the privatization of social security? because our government with the deficit can not afford to do it.

We will be own by China.


I though Japan was at one time taking over.



Kudos Bandid good link, it is time that America learns what they are up against



Welcome to the real world Marg. Japan lost its avantage when Tawain first started selling cheap goods, now China has taken over from them. No one can beat them either because they are known to use prision labor to make goods, where that is not possible they use children and when all else fails they pay people 10 cents and hour to get the additonal labor they need to make their cheap goods.



posted on Feb, 27 2005 @ 06:30 PM
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Shots - FYI - marg is an excellent researcher - and she's got her finger on the pulse of the real world better than most. Not sure if you meant to be disrespectful but it came across that way. ...


From Bandit's link:

"Gereffi says if Wal-Mart were a country, it would be one of China's top-ten trading partners, buying more than $15 billion in goods last year. Wal-Mart executives say that number is only going to get bigger."

Also FYI - Walmart is worth more than most countires. ...and I'd rather be an American than a Wal-Martian.


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