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Article 13 perfectly demonstrates why over-centralized government sucks

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posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 09:59 AM
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The fundamental flaw which seems to be overlooked by those who promote a utopian one world government is that everyone suffers as a result of one poor decision. The more power a government has the harder it is to escape, in the case of a global government it would be impossible to escape. You couldn't simply move to another state where the laws are a bit more relaxed about weed, if the people in power decide that it's a useless drug then you have to live your life according to the beliefs and will of those people or risk legal punishment. Also consider that centralized systems have a single point of failure, in other words it's extremely naive to believe the people wielding this immense power over society will not abuse that power. There is no such thing as utopia.




posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 10:37 AM
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a reply to: ChaoticOrder

And once a government discovers that they can centrally plan a lot of the economy, they discover that they can centrally plan everything. They make laws regarding food, vitamins, rain water, and even air. Nothing is a right. Everything is provided at the benevolence of the State.



posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 10:49 AM
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a reply to: ChaoticOrder

Thank you for posting that. Watched the whole thing.

The presenter is quite correct about how industry works their rules to comply with the rules of the strictest jurisdiction. I guess we can only wait and watch to see what happens.

One thing to keep in mind however is that in this case, if the EU Article 13 is so restrictive as to ax all but the largest content providers, essentially ending public produced content, I would have to think Google, Facebook, et al might not look at complying with Article 13 only as to the EU zone because to apply it world wide and in the US would severely damage their business model. So, for example, the rules in China are quite strict but they dont impose those rules on the US.

Just a thought.
Thanks.



posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 10:53 AM
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originally posted by: ltdan08
a reply to: ChaoticOrder

Everything is provided at the benevolence of the State.

It always baffles me how some people value the security and safety of the nanny state so much they are willing to give up all liberty and sovereignty, while also trying to convince the rest of us it's for the greater good. I think it'd be extremely interesting to conduct an experiment inspired by Atlas Shrugged, have two groups of people live in separate isolated societies, one group has a socialist type of mindset which prefers big government and big budgets, the other has a free market mindset and prefers small government with minimal interference into their lives or business. Just let them go for a few years and measure which group is better off at the end of it. Well even without doing the experiment I'm pretty certain which group would thrive and which would slowly eat its self from the inside out.
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posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 12:02 PM
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Not to mention that all those corporate psychopaths everyone hates so much will all gravitate toward government once you give government ultimate power and dominion over everything. If you think mega corporations own the government now, you ain't seen nothing yet. This would do nothing more than to consolidate and streamline the power in all the wrong hands.



posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 12:03 PM
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a reply to: ChaoticOrder

This is a war that has been fought as long as there have been people.

You will always have a portion of the population that wants more for less, that needs to feel that they are taken care of by a central government.

The United States fought that war once and Liberty won, for a time.



“If you love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

― Samuel Adams


Entropy seems to favor a centralized government, unfortunately.

Because here we are again, not a few hundred years later facing the same challenge.

S&F for the topic.




posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 01:27 PM
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a reply to: ChaoticOrder

The fundamental flaw of government is not its size or form or location, but its nature. Government exists for the sole purpose of control. But most people want to be governed. Even "conservatives" merely want "small" government. Human freedom and government are opposite and exclusionary things. Voluntary societies are not a complicated idea, but are rarely discussed. Whatever. As far as I am concerned, our government does not follow its own laws, so what form of government do we call that? Anarchy! So, Hail Eris! Grab the pitchforks! Throw them all out!

Nah... they always replace themselves. Funny how that works.







 
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