It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

The Moon: Relic From An Advanced Prehistoric Civilization

page: 4
47
<< 1  2  3    5  6  7 >>

log in

join
share:

posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 12:33 PM
link   

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: purplemer

There is no meaning in these numbers. Nothing in these numbers points to the moon being created by people or aliens. You keep posting these numbers as if they hold some significance, they don't.


I can keep going at it. Is strange stuff. At want point will you concur they may have been positioned..






In the image it’s shown how Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune would all fit in the gap. The result is a fairly snug fit with about 4,990 miles (8,030km) to spare, using the average Earth-moon distance of 238,555 miles (384,400km).


www.dailymail.co.uk...




posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 12:38 PM
link   
a reply to: purplemer

You can keep posting 100s of things

but you cannot answer why its significant?

Then try and turn it around and ask others to explain why it isn't?

Explain why it is, as you were asked, because you make it sound extremely significant but cannot explain why the coincidences are so significant.



posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 12:44 PM
link   
a reply to: InhaleExhale

If you look and look good you will reach a point when your realise this is well above coincidence. Its there coded in maths for all to see.

It is significant for this reason. It provides meaning. It says something and what it says is a personal thing. The universe is your mirror. What do you see...?

See I dont really mind if people believe it or not. I am aware that you can bring a horse to water but you cannot make it drink. Have a look or not. Your choice. But I will say this if you look and study this stuff your mind will be opened.

I post so those that do not know have the ability to have a look and see for themelves and some will

:-)



posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 12:45 PM
link   

originally posted by: InhaleExhale
a reply to: purplemer

You can keep posting 100s of things

but you cannot answer why its significant?

Then try and turn it around and ask others to explain why it isn't?

Explain why it is, as you were asked, because you make it sound extremely significant but cannot explain why the coincidences are so significant.



This is pretty obvious, isn’t it? It all points to a grand design / architects. Nature would not supply these astronomical coincidences on its own. Zoom up buddy, you’re in the weeds.



posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 12:55 PM
link   
a reply to: purplemer


Get you noggin round some of this.
The Earth does not turn 366 times on each orbit.

Why is it that all these amazing facts vary in their precision? Sometimes they're "exact", other times "meh, close enough." Why do they depend upon, and change units when convenient?



posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 01:00 PM
link   
a reply to: purplemer




If you look and look good you will reach a point when your realise this is well above coincidence. Its there coded in maths for all to see.


So convert the KMs into Miles like it was asked of you and then tell us the significance.

NO,

you reply telling other to do the conversions.

I doubt you actually know of what you are talking about and copying and pasting you-tube material


Its so funny these replies trying to point out the importance but the question asked was to actually say why its important yet all you can do is keep saying its important.





It is significant for this reason. It provides meaning. It says something and what it says is a personal thing. The universe is your mirror. What do you see...?



I see you fail to understand what you are talking about.




See I dont really mind if people believe it or not.



You were talking about math


what beliefs are required?



posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 01:00 PM
link   

originally posted by: iplay1up2
a reply to: LitriumGem

pretty sure, if the moon had gears and was hollow, we would know about it. You have told an interesting story though.


I'm not saying I agree with the OP but would we really?

How would we know this?



posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 01:02 PM
link   
a reply to: Phage


Why is it that all these amazing facts vary in their precision? Sometimes they're "exact", other times "meh, close enough." Why do they depend upon, and change units when convenient?

Yes it does. I thought you would have known that already



The Earth spins 366 times in a normal calendar year of 365 days. It spins 367 times in a leap year (366 days). You can see that the Earth spins one more time than the number of days in a year. That's because our 24-hour day is based on the Sun's position in the sky, which depends a bit on the Earth's orbital motion in addition to the Earth’s rotational period relative to the fixed stars. In fact, the Earth takes slightly less than 24 hours to spin once.





To get the number of spins in a year using the tropical year, start with the length of the tropical year, which is about 365.242 days. Divide the tropical year length (in seconds) by the Earth's rotation period (in seconds). The spin period is about 23 hours 56 minutes and 4 seconds. The answer, as you might expect, is about 366.242 spins.


The numbers are really very close looking at the size and scale. You know yourself there are many ways you measure the circumference of the earth for example and you will get different results.

You have an enquiring mind go and have a look. Have a think. Most people that look and understand will admit its more than odd..



posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 01:02 PM
link   
a reply to: purplemer

For the same reason the number 23 didn't mean anything to Jim Carrey. If they wanted to leave meaningful expression using the moon using math then using math would probably be a better alternative. They could carve equations into the face, anything other than random coincidence with zero meaning.



posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 01:06 PM
link   
a reply to: purplemer

iirc there were nukes exploded on the moon? Could that explain U236?

ETA No, the official line is that Project A119 was never carried out....
edit on 16/12/18 by djz3ro because: See above



posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 01:07 PM
link   
a reply to: purplemer


You know yourself there are many ways you measure the circumference of the earth for example and you will get different results.
Indeed. You know that Solar eclipse thing? It varies. And most of the time it is not an exact fit. It is also not unique to the Sun and the Moon.




Most people that look and understand will admit its more than odd..
I've looked. I understand. I don't see it as odd. But I do know that some people have a need to find significance in everything. Gives them a sense of control in universe full of randomness. I guess.


edit on 12/16/2018 by Phage because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 01:07 PM
link   

originally posted by: InhaleExhale
a reply to: LitriumGem




If you do decide to read it you will find it covers various topics from the mind to parapsychology, ancient history to mankind's true origins. It also explains these things (when it can) from a scientific

perspective. In my honest opinion it is Truly a profound read, but it's totally up to you if you want to check it out or not.



What if the questions posed are because I have read the book?



Have you read the book?




originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: LitriumGem

Both the sun and moon are very enigmatic. They have both been positioned and their sizes calibrated. The moon has beings in it and the sun has beings in it. Part of us is in the sun and remains there. When we die we go to the moon and we get recycled. The beings there want us to remain heavy. We get our memory reset and come back.
We repeat this cycle for a long time. One day when the time is right we go to the Sun our final destination.


I agree with your statement about reincarnation and people being washed clean of their memories when they are reborn. It resonates with what Master Li Hongzhi said in one of his lecture excerpts:

“As you know, I have taught that matter is imperishable and that lives reincarnate. And this not only holds true for man, but also holds true in the realms of gods. Man, being under the spell of illusion, cannot see this, and thus finds the prospect of death terrifying.

The molecules that make up man’s molecular cells are comprised of atoms, and atoms are comprised of even more microcosmic particles, with the energy of particles being greater the more microcosmic

they get. We know that when a human body is buried in the earth, its cells, which at the surface layer are comprised of molecules, can rot away. But molecules cannot rot away, can they?

Even less so can atoms, right? Then where has that part of you gone? If all of man’s thoughts were simply the product of his own mind thinking at this surface layer, then how is one to explain the things that people sometimes unexpectedly say?

It is not always the case that what you say comes only after careful consideration; instead, it is sometimes the you at different levels, spanning from your particles at the surface layer to those comprising you deep in the microcosm, that is at work.

The entirety of your being is simultaneously comprised of particles spanning from the most microcosmic of levels to those at the surface, so your being is not merely this extremely simple, superficial layer of cells. In the context of a person’s being, then, the loss of this superficial portion is merely the loss of a layer of outer skin.

With reincarnation, a new outer skin is taken on. The true you cannot be rotted away by burial in the earth. That soil cannot break down atoms, or even molecules, for that matter. If one’s atoms were broken apart, it would result in a massive explosion.

The force of a nuclear explosion that’s the scope of a human body would be enough to destroy a city. Isn’t that true? Then, where do you go [at death]? Dafa disciples know the answer. So, this is to say that under the illusion of this world, people don’t know what will become of them after they die. But divine beings know very well what happens, and divine beings of greater heights know even better still.

They take all of this to be quite natural. New life is generated when a being comes to the final step in the course of his life. They are fully aware of this process. The entire universe thus involves this process of going back and forth that I’m talking about."



originally posted by: Harte

originally posted by: LitriumGem

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: LitriumGem



This is why remnants of this civilization on Earth would be hard to impossible to see today.


But you claimed they made the moon? Why not claim they made Mount Everest?

How did they fit in with ancient ecosystems? How would the history of past earth species be different with or without them. No deep underground complexes? No fossil record? And no arrowhead stuck

in a fossilized dinosaur rib cage, or the equivalent? No evidence they changed large pieces of land for agricultural?

No evidence of one dug well?


The moon has many anomalies that scientists are scratching their head over, I've posted some of the more common ones in my first post but
there are others too:

www.pureinsight.org...

From your source:

Why is it always the same side of the moon that faces the earth? The explanation from the scientists is that the moon rotates around its own axis with a velocity of 16.56 km per hour, and it also revolves

around the earth at exactly the same speed. Thus the same side always faces the earth.

This phenomenon does not exist for any other planet and its satellites in our solar system- only for our earth and moon. Is it another coincidence along with the other coincidences? Is there an

explanation other than coincidence?

It's called "tidal locking."

However:

Most major moons in the Solar System − the gravitationally rounded satellites − are tidally locked with their primaries, because they orbit very closely and tidal force increases rapidly (as a

cubic function) with decreasing distance.[15] Notable exceptions are the irregular outer satellites of the gas giants, which orbit much farther away than the large well-known moons.

Pluto and Charon are an extreme example of a tidal lock. Charon is a relatively large moon in comparison to its primary and also has a very close orbit. This results in Pluto and Charon being mutually tidally

locked. Pluto's other moons are not tidally locked; Styx, Nix, Kerberos, and Hydra all rotate chaotically due to the influence of Charon.

Wiki

So, any reason for us to read any further in your source of supposed "head scratchers?"
I mean, he's making it up, as I just showed.
Doesn't bode well for any discussion with you if you believe whatever you read at fringe sites making up lies that you could have easily checked on.

Harte


Although other moons are tidal locked only the moon has synchronous rotation of 1 to 1:

An excerpt from from: ask.metafilter.com...

---

You question suggests that "perfect lock" means it will always face the same side, and "imperfect lock" means it will eventually show the opposite side. What you are missing here is that tidal lock ≠ same side always faces (called synchronous rotation).

Synchronous rotation is a specific case where the tidal locking is 1 to 1, that is, a body rotates around its own axis in the same time it orbits another. Tidal locking doesn't require it to be 1 to 1. In the case of the Moon-Earth system, it is 1 to 1, and for purposes of this question, it will forever be. It will never show the other side.

---



posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 01:11 PM
link   
a reply to: LitriumGem


Although other moons are tidal locked only the moon has synchronous rotation of 1 to 1:

Nonsense.


Europa orbits Jupiter every 3.5 days and is locked by gravity to Jupiter, so the same hemisphere of the moon always faces the planet.

solarsystem.nasa.gov...

And many others.


edit on 12/16/2018 by Phage because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 01:12 PM
link   

originally posted by: djz3ro
a reply to: LitriumGem

The problem I have with this premise is that if the moon was put there by a prehistoric human race, how and why would there be any record of anyone who remembers a time before the moon?

Also as opposed to being created by man in prehistory could it not be the dead husk of a planet (maybe Niburu) who was catapulted out of it's orbit and destroyed by an exploding sun, caught in the Sun and then earth's gravitational pull?

Are there any mention of the seas before there were tides?



Perhaps some ancient legends from a very remote time survived to this day.

Many of the materials found on the moon are not found in nature:


Metals Whose Existence is Impossible

It is not strange that the moon craters have a great deal of lava. What is strange is that the lava contains rich metal elements such as titanium, chromium, yttrium, etc., which are rarely found on earth. Those metals are all very hard and resistant to both high temperatures and corrosion. Scientists estimate that it requires 2000-3000º C to melt these metals.

But the moon has been a dead and cold orb without volcanic activity for three billion years. How did the moon generate so many kinds of metals that require such high temperatures to melt? Moreover, analysis of the 380 kg of moon soil samples brought back by astronauts shows that there is pure iron and pure titanium. Such pure metal deposits just aren't found under natural conditions.

from: www.pureinsight.org...


edit on 16-12-2018 by LitriumGem because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 01:20 PM
link   
a reply to: LitriumGem


How did the moon generate so many kinds of metals that require such high temperatures to melt?
Large asteroidal impacts create a lot of heat.


Moreover, analysis of the 380 kg of moon soil samples brought back by astronauts shows that there is pure iron and pure titanium.
Source?

edit on 12/16/2018 by Phage because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 01:39 PM
link   
a reply to: Phage

"These titanium-rich areas on the moon puzzled the researchers. The highest abundance of titanium in similar rocks on Earth hovers around 1 percent or less, the scientists explained. The new map shows that these troves of titanium on the moon range from about 1 percent to a little more than 10 percent."

from:
www.space.com...


Titanium is the ninth most abundant metal in the Earth's crust. Titanium is not found freely in nature but is found in minerals such as rutile (titanium oxide), ilmenite (iron titanium oxide) and sphene (titanite or calcium titanium silicate).



posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 01:40 PM
link   
a reply to: LitriumGem

So, not this? Somebody made it up (along with a lot of other stuff)?

Moreover, analysis of the 380 kg of moon soil samples brought back by astronauts shows that there is pure iron and pure titanium.


Why make stuff up?
edit on 12/16/2018 by Phage because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 01:46 PM
link   
a reply to: LitriumGem

1% or 10% is not 100% pure titanium.



posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 01:54 PM
link   
a reply to: continuousThunder


I agree it is kind of like saying someone is "older than dirt" we don't take that to literally mean that someone is in fact older than dirt.


edit on 16-12-2018 by norhoc because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 01:57 PM
link   

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: LitriumGem

So, not this? Somebody made it up (along with a lot of other stuff)?

Moreover, analysis of the 380 kg of moon soil samples brought back by astronauts shows that there is pure iron and pure titanium.


Why make stuff up?


"The basalts found at the Apollo 11 landing site are generally similar to basalts on Earth and are composed primarily of the minerals pyroxene and plagioclase. One difference is that the Apollo 11 basalts contain much more of the element titanium than is usually found in basalts on Earth."

www.lpi.usra.edu...







 
47
<< 1  2  3    5  6  7 >>

log in

join