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The Senate on Thursday voted 56 to 41 in favor of a resolution to withdraw US support for Saudi Arabia in the Yemen conflict in a stunning rebuke of President Donald Trump's ongoing, controversial support for the kingdom following the killing of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi.
The vote is largely symbolic, given the House on Wednesday moved to block virtually any deliberations on US involvement in Yemen for the rest of the congressional session. Accordingly, the measure will not end up on Trump's desk.
But the House is likely to take up the issue again when it reconvenes in the new year and Democrats take over.
originally posted by: Xcalibur254
Trump has stated that if any such bill crosses his desk that it will be vetoed. However, the message seems to be quite clear. Trump doesn't have the full support of his party and there are many on the Right that are concerned by continued support of Saudi Arabia.
Trump has stated that if any such bill crosses his desk that it will be vetoed. However, the message seems to be quite clear. Trump doesn't have the full support of his party and there are many on the Right that are concerned by continued support of Saudi Arabia.
originally posted by: watchitburn
We shouldn't be involved in the ME anyway.
We've been bombing Yemen for at least 10 years now. Well I haven't heard that we stopped, so I imagine that we still are.
So if the senate can work with congress to get this through then I'm cool with that.
so what is to stop OPEC from doing their usual games and withhold production to jack prices up to the lunacy levels of $5 a gallon here in the US?
I get that Trump is weak on SA, and I'm not a fan of them, nor is anyone I know, but they have us by the short and curleys and have for a while. When the dust settles from this, I'm sure whatever bad things will be blamed on Trump, but perhaps the veil will be pulled back just a bit.
Most here aren't worth a discussion only ridicule, due to their partisan blinders. Lucky you, one of the few who still possesses rational thought!
How is it that this event alone seems to be the end to SA's relationship with us?
They were just fine for Obama, Clinton, Bush, and all the rest, but now, this HAS TO STOP! LOL, it's a bit deeper than the shiny layer we are all amazed with currently. Or is this the first time a person was killed by a government?
Obama, Riyadh press conference, April 2016: “Even as Iran is calling us ‘The Great Satan,’ we were able to get a deal done where they got rid of their nuclear stockpiles, and that makes us safer. That's not a sign of weakness, that's a sign of strength.”
Trump, May 2017: “For decades, Iran has fuelled the fires of sectarian conflict and terror. It is a government that speaks openly of mass murder, vowing the destruction of Israel, death to America, and ruin for many leaders and nations in this room.
Human rights in Saudi Arabia
Obama, Riyadh speech, April 2016: “Even as these summits focus on security issues, it remains the case that true and lasting security also depends on governance and an economy that serves all its citizens and respects universal human rights.”
Trump, May 2017: “Our partnerships will advance security through stability, not through radical disruption. We will make decisions based on real-world outcomes – not inflexible ideology. We will be guided by the lessons of experience, not the confines of rigid thinking. And, wherever possible, we will seek gradual reforms – not sudden intervention.”
Obama, Washington address in May 2011: Arab societies “held together by fear and repression may offer the illusion of stability for a time, but they are built upon fault lines that will eventually tear asunder.”
Trump, May 2017: “We are not here to lecture - we are not here to tell other people how to live, what to do, who to be, or how to worship. Instead, we are here to offer partnership – based on shared interests and values – to pursue a better future for us all.”
originally posted by: odzeandennz
a reply to: network dude
that's rich coming from you...you're telling people about partisanship blunders or resorting o immediate ridicule un defense of trump?
(oh plenty to prove it...)
new definition to pot meet keytle...
this idea of everyone was mum under other presidencies and now suddenly vocal is simply another trump-defense camouflaged behind the guise of equal inquisition.
well there are plenty on record that outlined how most presidents differ on the ME:
I'll give you facts but I expect you to twist it .
Saudis loved the Obama administration.... which wasnt eschewed by the Iran nuke deal right...?
Obama, Riyadh press conference, April 2016: “Even as Iran is calling us ‘The Great Satan,’ we were able to get a deal done where they got rid of their nuclear stockpiles, and that makes us safer. That's not a sign of weakness, that's a sign of strength.”
Trump, May 2017: “For decades, Iran has fuelled the fires of sectarian conflict and terror. It is a government that speaks openly of mass murder, vowing the destruction of Israel, death to America, and ruin for many leaders and nations in this room.
Human rights in Saudi Arabia
Obama, Riyadh speech, April 2016: “Even as these summits focus on security issues, it remains the case that true and lasting security also depends on governance and an economy that serves all its citizens and respects universal human rights.”
Trump, May 2017: “Our partnerships will advance security through stability, not through radical disruption. We will make decisions based on real-world outcomes – not inflexible ideology. We will be guided by the lessons of experience, not the confines of rigid thinking. And, wherever possible, we will seek gradual reforms – not sudden intervention.”
Obama, Washington address in May 2011: Arab societies “held together by fear and repression may offer the illusion of stability for a time, but they are built upon fault lines that will eventually tear asunder.”
Trump, May 2017: “We are not here to lecture - we are not here to tell other people how to live, what to do, who to be, or how to worship. Instead, we are here to offer partnership – based on shared interests and values – to pursue a better future for us all.”
I'm going to take it, by me quoting directly each president, you'll say I'm twisting truth? or anti trump for that...?
no US president has been able to sever the strangle hold the Saudis have on us, but there are glaring differences between recent presidents postures at far back as bush41
and, a comparison of the two presidents meeting with the Saudis doesn't make the telegraph fake news: source... and yes Obama gave the Saudi government too much leeway. which is what started the Yemeni war initially. but they weren't in favor of Obama's Iranian policies and human rights issues including LGBT and women's rights