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Can Europe destroy America?

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posted on Dec, 14 2018 @ 07:40 AM
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a reply to: pleasedontwastemytoe

What an odd thing to ponder....

So let’s assume that such a thing was inevitable and the US pulled all resources out of Europe. Well that would be a major blow to Europes defense structure and communication capabilities. Virtually rendering the entirety of Europe defenseless.
Europe would have to use shipping vessels for troop and supplies transport. That alone would be completely defenseless and just sitting ducks for Americas massive naval capabilities. Think Dunkirk but on the offensive and with modern tech. Doesn’t look good I must say.
Europe has ZERO ways of using aircraft in any sustained fashion against Americas homeland. So count that out.

So in conclusion without even getting into ground force capabilities of America Europe would be screwed.
Europe gave up any ambition of ever doing anything close to that when most major Europe nations joined NATO.
Sorry bud......




posted on Dec, 14 2018 @ 07:48 AM
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talk about an unlikely situation. ALL of Europe and Russia to band together? that right there is an interesting pipe dream. for one thing Europe alone is not as near united as some people think. as it stands the UK wants to leave the EU (and very likely other countries). so what would be in it for them to join such a cause? seems to me that like in WW2 they would end up on the side of the US which would give the US, yet again a close base to strike at the rest of Europe from. or do you also include Canada into the European forces? thing is, even IF that were to happen, there would be a great many Canadians fighting alongside the American forces. unless of course the US did something truly horrific. and Trump is not it, since just like in the US many Canadians not only support Trump, but want a Canadian version of him to deal with all the harm Trudeau has been doing to the country. just as Trump is trying to deal with all the harm caused by Obama. which of course would mean that if Canada was involved on the side of Europe, it would actually pretty much mean a guerrilla war in Canada between US and European supporters. which would make for a very unstable base of operations for the European forces.

in fact except for the EU which is not much more than a pact of economic convenience all those countries in Europe have been going after their neighbours for centuries. in fact all the big wars for centuries have mainly been among themselves, that have spread around the world. adding Russia into the mix, makes the scenario even more unlikely. there are just too many bad memories about the SSSR in Europe. especially countries like Germany and the UK. remember at the end of both WW1 and WW2 people wanted to continue through Germany to take out Russia/SSSR and their communism. and from everything i have seen since the breakup of communist Russia/SSSR, most people in Europe have no more love or trust for them since the communists (with a large amount of help from Germany), took over Russia and all the other countries that they eventually took over. nor would many of those countries that have broken free from Russia/SSSR (and that includes Germany), would want to enter a major war with them and risk being taken over again. and in all honesty you would have much the same issues between Germany and everyone else.

but even If somehow Europe/Russia got over all their centuries old mistrusts of each other, just what would they fight with? considering just how much of currant and recent past reliance ON American forces and equipment for most of Europe for their protection would be a major issue. quite frankly removal of that American assistance would pretty much cripple them. they would have to do a massive military build up of both equipment and men. and i don't think with all we hear about finical issues of countries within the EU, that that would happen very easily. plus again like in Canada there would be a split in support of the US. remember not everyone hates the US. some even remember that it was only with the help of the US that they were able to keep their freedom from Germany and Russia.

and you also have to face the fact that Russia would not improve matters much. sure they have lots of men. but they are just as lacking in equipment. most of the vaunted Russian fleet is GONE. rusting hulks sitting pretty much abandoned. and the rest of Europe is not in much better shape. the mighty English fleet, the once mighty French and Spanish fleets have been prety much gone since the end of ww2 if not long before even that. and lets face it such a war would pretty much be another "battle of the Atlantic". you would need to get your men and especially equipment from Europe to America. which would require huge naval support as well as supply ships. things that really do not exist in Europe. you could with Russia being a prt go across the northern route, but that would put Canada pretty firmly on the side of the US. because of course that would mean invadeing Canada to get to the US. not something most Canadians would tolerate if they were not fully in support of such a war. which again means there would have to be a damned good reason for it.

all in all not something very likely to happen. something that would take years just to even think of doing it. years in which the US and Canada would also be preparing for.



posted on Dec, 14 2018 @ 07:55 AM
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Too many variables to make a conclusion.



posted on Dec, 14 2018 @ 08:15 AM
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a reply to: pleasedontwastemytoe

They can have this country. There's way too much poverty and low quality people to make it worth having.



posted on Dec, 14 2018 @ 08:19 AM
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a reply to: pleasedontwastemytoe

it seems hate is the most beloved word for guys like you. who hates muslims? yeah, we have arsehole down here, many arseholes, but most of the people don't care where you come from or what color your skin is. but, yes, europe could destroy america and america could destroy europe. why are you asking? are you dreaming about ww3? you shouldn't. because aftermath there will be no walls and borders anymore.



posted on Dec, 14 2018 @ 08:22 AM
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a reply to: pleasedontwastemytoe

Yes, but at great cost to all, so why would we want to initiate a full-scale nuclear exchange with the U.S?

Where are the spoils of war to be had there?

Pointless question really considering its a M.A.D world.



posted on Dec, 14 2018 @ 08:34 AM
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a reply to: pleasedontwastemytoe

I don't see that happening no. France once needed our help, and people are awake as we're seeing with the yellow vest movement.



posted on Dec, 14 2018 @ 09:08 AM
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originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: toms54



The US conquered Europe during WWII insofar as the entire continen4 was controlled by the Nazis.


Not quite the 'entire continent was controlled by the Nazis'....one small little part remained strong and resolute throughout the war - which started in 1939 and NOT 1941,
- just saying.


Then you propose provoking a was with the US.


No-one's proposing anything....the only people who seem to be taking this ridiculous scenario seriously are Americans.


So this thread is not discussing this ridiculous scenario? How about Macron. America never threatened war with Europe. If they feel we are unreasonable, we will be glad to pull out of NATO.



posted on Dec, 14 2018 @ 09:18 AM
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Europe's militaries are basically non-existent compared to the size of the U.S. military. 1 U.S. sub can destroy Europe in a matter of seconds. We have 48 of those subs patrolling the earth at any given time. The only threat to the U.S. would be if China & Russia joined forces. We still have a stronger military but probably would have mutual destruction ending mankind if that happened. The U.S. also has space kinetic energy weapons, like the rods of God system, as well as, weapons which the rest of the world has not even conceived of yet.

One has to remember that all the smartest people in the world moved to the U.S. once its democratically elected constitutional republic was established, along with free market capitalism. All other nations were under feudalist kingdom/serfdom rule before the U.S. became a beacon to the world & the world adopted democratic rule by the people. Also, everyone would either be speaking German or Russian if the U.S. didn't help save Europe during WWII. The U.S.A. brought the world: transcontinental railroads, assembly lines, electricity, telegraph, telephone, refridgeration, radios, record players, tape players, CDs, MP3s, televisions, computers, internet, smartphones, radar, microwaves, airplanes, outboard boat motors, GPS, etc.. Your're welcome Europe & the rest of the world. Please try to be more thankful & less jealous of the greatest country in the world, the U.S.A.. you'd be far worse off if we didn't exist or help you. American consumers also help power Europe's economy.
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posted on Dec, 14 2018 @ 09:26 AM
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a reply to: pleasedontwastemytoe

We have, its called the Rydwr Cup, no need for bullets and death

Ryder Cup

I am sure the USA will mount a powerfull counterstrike



posted on Dec, 14 2018 @ 09:26 AM
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There's one small problem with that scenario......France



posted on Dec, 14 2018 @ 09:29 AM
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originally posted by: Excallibacca
It's more likely that America will continue destroying itself from within.


Alright fine, whateva.

But answer me this though, if it ever happens, would europa finally rule the ward and become home to the greatest supa powas and would eurolanders finally be happy and stop whining on YouTube?



posted on Dec, 14 2018 @ 09:34 AM
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a reply to: pleasedontwastemytoe

Sounds like you are now whining about other people whining.


I mean you have to appreciate the hypocrisy there. LoL

If America goes down it will be by your own hand.



posted on Dec, 14 2018 @ 09:34 AM
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Eu soon has its own army, it is on the way, agreed by several member nations.
Tho we Europeans hate the idea of army which is ruled by EU.. this is really a ugly turn but also shows the true nature of EU ( also an agreement in Global compact for migration) which holds the power is aiming it against its own people.

I don´t think EU is against US, it is aiming to repression of its own people as it seems that we europeans are not likable inhabitants in our continent and we must be replaced with people which can be easier manage also supress.
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posted on Dec, 14 2018 @ 09:40 AM
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a reply to: dollukka

There is no EU or US to the bankers and corporations. "They" are somewhat above such arcane ideology hence the reason they are able to maintain socioeconomic and financial control of our respective nations.

They are the real enemy against everyone but themselves and the agenda they facilitate.



posted on Dec, 14 2018 @ 09:42 AM
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No. We can't, and if we could: we shouldn't.
Make love, not war!



posted on Dec, 14 2018 @ 09:44 AM
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a reply to: Daalder

Now if only our politicians and the people who run the show shared such sentiment, then again chance would be a fine thing indeed.



posted on Dec, 14 2018 @ 09:49 AM
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a reply to: pleasedontwastemytoe

Well, considering nukes, a united Europe could definitely destroy America a few times over, but would likewise also be destroyed a few times over in return.

What would the point of that be?



posted on Dec, 14 2018 @ 09:53 AM
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a reply to: pleasedontwastemytoe

Is this another, "Death To America" thread?

Here's how I think Europe should destroy America.


Europe gets on Facebook and "friends" America.

They trade memes, recipes for pies. Then. . . without warning. . . Europe "unfriends" America.


America gets so devastated that they kill themselves.


Problem?
Solution?

Solved.


You're welcome.




posted on Dec, 14 2018 @ 11:01 AM
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Europe and America will destroy themselves, alone, in due time.




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