Originally posted by Abraham Virtue
I would definately agree with you that this whole issue is totally overblown. My personal opinion of it all is this:
Who cares. This is nothing new. Hackers are idiots and they will get caught and end up working for the government anyway. Some of these ignorants that
pray for the hackers to do damage are fools. I think that hacking is horrible and is no different than terrorism. In fact I often call it that cause
These hackers are weak and don't know how to act like adults, even though they may claim to be.
Basically I could careless what they do. Cause I know what will happen to them and in time it will all work out for the better. They will soon be
apart of that which they were once against. Trust me, I know these things. I have seen this stuff happen before.
Ok then... here's my "Personal Opinion".
I think you're quite the idiot yourself for thinking this way about really and truely skilled hackers...
First of all... I've only read this thread and not followed or checked up on the attacks... The impression i'm getting from the comments here about
ddos attacks and defacements is that the so called "hackers" playing this game are nothing more then script kids and possibly crackers...
Allow me to explain... someone who reallly wants to hack a server (that is to get acces to the machine) would NEVER use a DDOS attack on the machine
DDOS is short for Distributed Denial Of Service, this means that one attacks the services offered by the computer that is under attack in such a way
that the services are "overloaded" and therefore shutdown and are no longer available to the public.
In short laymans terms one crashes the server so noone can access it anymore.
This is something done only by script kiddies...
Defacing a website is the second thing that i saw posted here as a goal of the "hackers". Defacement is different from a ddos attack... one has to
hack a server (without damaging it i.e. keep the services running so you can acces the server) and replace the website (or part of it) with an altered
Again in short laymans terms you replace the website with whatever you want it to show.
This is something done by advanced script kiddies.
Now for the Important point i wanted to make...
A real hacker makes sure that he gets into a server without being detected and without destroying anything!!!
That means... no ddos attacks because then he wouldn't be able to access the server anymore.
And no defacements... as a system admin would know that he had been hacked if his site was altered.
Motives of real hackers differ... basically the good guys (people who seek out flaws in systems and notify sysadmins of their mistakes) are called
The bad guys (people who hack systems for personal gain) are called crackers.
But all in all a hacker is someone who enters a server without being detected... and in order to stay on the system and remain undetected he is
carefull not to destroy anything that might give him away.
These hacks that are supposed to be happening (or have happend) are the work of script kiddies...
Abraham, You should have the greatest respect for the computing skills that real hackers (the good guys) have... without them... the internet would be
a mess... It is they that think of new ways to secure things (from the bad guys and script kids) it is they that have the skill to install servers
properly and program like no other... Be gratefull for them and their skills...
If what you said earlier is what you think of this last group (the only real hackers) then i can't help but say that you're an ignoramous that knows
sh!t about hackers.
Last thing i wanted to say is about you calling hacking terrorism. Abraham,.. my pretty ignorant ATS cyber friend... he who is doing the bidding of
the Bush administration in calling any- and everything terrorism so the government can wipe it out with brute force.
Hacking isn't terrorism... it's a common crime like breaking and entering... not an act of terrorism... I agree that it's a crime but it's
definetely NOT terrorism...
Wake up,.. smell the coffee... you are being manipulated by Bush and his thugs... Think for yourself... make up your own mind.