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Cardinal Pell found guilty - Popes 3rd highest official

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posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 06:24 AM
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Here is a great example of Australian Press being totally biased and controlled...

Earlier today Cardinal Pell (one of popes highest ranking people) was found guilty of sexually abusing boys.

Australian press has been gagged reporting it

www.churchmilitant.com...


SYDNEY, Australia (ChurchMilitant.com) - A jury has found Cdl. George Pell guilty on all counts related to sexually abusing two altar boys.

According to sources who spoke to The Daily Beast, a jury returned a unanimous verdict Tuesday against the Australian cardinal after three days of deliberation. Church Militant confirmed the news with its own inside sources in Australia. Further details are unavailable, as the court has issued a suppression order to Australian media to "prevent a real and substantial risk of prejudice to the proper administration of justice."

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posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 06:28 AM
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a reply to: Agit8dChop

The first of many to fall, times are changing ... spread the Word !



posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 06:32 AM
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a reply to: Agit8dChop

It's not about being biased or controlled. It's because he was found guilty in one case but still has more cases in front of the court. If it's widely reported that he's guilty of one, his defence will claim he can't have a fair trial in any future cases because the jury will simply presume he did the other offences as well.



posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 06:38 AM
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a reply to: Rewey

You are probably right...

Hes been found guilty of sexually assualting 2 boys and he tried every trick in the book to avoid coming home to face charges.
Personally - fk his cases... hes guilty and i hope the other case hears of his guilt because it goes to character... of which is dirty, devious, dangerous and not welcome in society
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posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 06:50 AM
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originally posted by: Rewey
a reply to: Agit8dChop

It's not about being biased or controlled. It's because he was found guilty in one case but still has more cases in front of the court. If it's widely reported that he's guilty of one, his defence will claim he can't have a fair trial in any future cases because the jury will simply presume he did the other offences as well.



Not so, speaking as someone having watched this whole event play out over the past year, Pell had been charged with "historical child abuse" which is a completely New Law to deal with the fact 90% of child abuse is revealed far too late

Australian Police have TRIED on several occasions to "move on' the pedo rings they already knew about BUT every time they were stopped "at the highest levels". Aussie TV, 60minutes even had a big story about these 'rings' but they'd all "quietly disappear' . . .until now!

as The Royal Commission into Child Abuse that was held in Australia in 2017 determined and so some new laws were put in place which allowed people such as Pell to be charged if there was sufficient evidence of "historic abuse" occurring e.g. 20 people who don't know each other coming forward 30 yrs later to accuse 'some one', in this case a priest (Now, very high ranking) who abused these kids 40yrs ago back when he was a lowly, but Trusted priest in a country town, but today is some bigwig in the world's largest pedo ring, the catholic brothers, jesuits and others



The Fact this "priest" has been convicted of these charges "sets a precedent" of Law which will start a whole bunch of people coming forth to accuse their childhood abusers who they've been to scared to talk about ... until now!. I'm sure there's a new lot of worried people right now

We can Thank people like Angela Barret for sharing her truly FUBAR story to the Royal Commission as it's sure put the cat amongst the pidgeons when it comes to certain people having to "explain themselves" to a court of law about something (that there is evidence Did occur) which happened outside the Statute of Limitations re: such matters ... until today!

No doubt he has already asked for an "appeal" so things will be 'on hold' for a while.

Interesting timing huh? what a Qincidence!

"The Plan was many years in the making"

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posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 07:14 AM
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originally posted by: Agit8dChop
a reply to: Rewey

You are probably right...

Hes been found guilty of sexually assualting 2 boys and he tried every trick in the book to avoid coming home to face charges.
Personally - fk his cases... hes guilty and i hope the other case hears of his guilt because it goes to character... of which is dirty, devious, dangerous and not welcome in society


I agree, but the problem is if he's guilty for abusing 2 altar boys, he might get a sentence of a couple of years, given how weak Australian courts are with this sort of thing. But if he's found guilty of abusing a dozen altar boys through subsequent trials, he may actually end up in jail for the rest of his life (given his age).

I'd love to see this guilty verdict spread far and wide, but if there is a chance of a serious lengthy sentence, I think we will need to hold on...



posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 07:49 AM
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a reply to: Agit8dChop

problem is, send him to jail and he'll be the one voluntarily dropping the soap. ...like heaven for him...

I say Chinese water torture until his sanity waves goodbye...then labor camp until his physical life waves goodbye



posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 08:04 AM
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But, but will God forgive him? Is all he needs to do is go to confession?



posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 09:36 AM
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a reply to: Agit8dChop

Further details being unavailable during the trial, before the verdict was reached, is perfectly reasonable. Media groups being permitted to report on ongoing cases in any situation, regardless of what country one happens to be in, is automatically a risk to any conviction secured by completion of the court process, as it can be argued if there is a media storm, that the jury would have been unable to avoid being biased by the medias reports on the matter, rather than limiting their deliberations to what comes out in the courtroom. This means that any conviction secured under such a media storm as is possible in some nations, could, on a technicality, permit a sufficiently canny or wealthy convict, to see their conviction overturned due to the bias of media representation of the case, during the trial.

Remember, that in most sufficiently advanced court systems, the convict does not have to prove that they are innocent of the crime, or that the judgement was incorrect in some way. They only have to prove that the media or figures within it, prejudiced or could have prejudiced (that is accessed by any method, with information laid out in any way which might be impartial) the members of the jury. This is why knobheads like Tommy Robinson are not welcome outside courtrooms, and why systems exist to limit press activity around certain cases, during trials.

HOWEVER....

There are VERY few good reasons that I can think of, which might excuse a judge issuing a gag order on the press, over a case which has already been resolved. The only way I can see that being legitimate, is if the nature of the case, the information which came to light during that case, implies or implicates other parties, who will, as a direct result of this trial having gone ahead, be investigated and put on trial themselves, necessitating an unbiased jury once more, necessitating that facts which have come out in this trial, be presented before fresh jurors with the purpose of once more coming to a verdict without being exposed to any data about the case, which does not come from within the proceedings of that case.

Other than that, and of course the protection of victims from unhelpful press exposure, there is no good reason to keep the data in question, from out of the public view. One can only hope that more cases are pending, and that the desire to keep the jury or juries involved from becoming biased out of hand, is at the root of this decision.



posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 10:00 AM
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a reply to: Agit8dChop

I'm glad they got one of them held to account. Still, this won't make much difference until they somehow manage to get that homosexual mafia out of the Catholic Church. Still a long way to go.



posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 04:49 PM
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a reply to: Agit8dChop

Knowing that the topic is inflammatory, but in light of the judge's order, wouldn't it be best if this were not broadcast?

Mods, perhaps this thread should be shut down at this time?



posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 07:57 PM
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a reply to: MetalThunder

Sometimes it's better if I just shut my mouth..
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posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 08:02 PM
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a reply to: Agit8dChop

Cardinal Poke is a Pig
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posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 08:16 PM
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If the #3 "holy one" at the Vatican was convicted as a Pedo-crook, it's a no-brainer that the #2 and #1 "holy ones" know it happened, and/or are even guilty of those crimes themselves.

Hopefully, the vast majority of Catholics love God more than they love these transient humans, who come and go with the wind. Then, the entire Catholic church could be shut down, and the followers would still be rooted to their faith properly.



posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 08:42 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

The Church of Satan has Nothing on these Guys ........Geez.........(



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