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posted on Dec, 11 2018 @ 08:23 PM
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It costs $65 to cross into Mexico. It cost $35 to cross into the US. There are 350 million crossings into the US every year. If we charges an extra $35, It would raise 1.2 billion per year. Would this work? It seems like a simple solution.




posted on Dec, 11 2018 @ 08:27 PM
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Sure, it might work, but then how would the government smuggle in all those guns, drugs, and terrorists to keep the bipartisan War on Americans alive?



posted on Dec, 11 2018 @ 08:28 PM
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Government is not in the business of simple solutions.




posted on Dec, 11 2018 @ 08:29 PM
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Yes it would, but doubling the price in year one is not how you do it. Start by adding $5 from years on through four. Then add $7 starting the fifth year. This would have to be added to an NDAA budget, because I agree with POTUS that we should turn the borders to the Pentagon.



posted on Dec, 11 2018 @ 08:36 PM
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originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: 00018GE

Government is not in the business of simple solutions.



Quoted for excellence.

Because if the problems were solved, what would we need them for?


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posted on Dec, 11 2018 @ 08:38 PM
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Please, allow me:




Because if the problems were solved, what would we need them for?




Quoted for excellence.


We (mostly) have been conditioned to think that we need government....and the corruption that follow it.



posted on Dec, 11 2018 @ 08:41 PM
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originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Lumenari

Please, allow me:




Because if the problems were solved, what would we need them for?




Quoted for excellence.


We (mostly) have been conditioned to think that we need government....and the corruption that follow it.


So you understand the socialist/progressive agenda.

I hope many others follow suit.




posted on Dec, 11 2018 @ 08:42 PM
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originally posted by: 00018GE
It costs $65 to cross into Mexico. It cost $35 to cross into the US. There are 350 million crossings into the US every year. If we charges an extra $35, It would raise 1.2 billion per year. Would this work? It seems like a simple solution.



Your math is off... another $35 per crossing is $12,250,000,000. $12.25 billion per year.

It would be very easy to pay for the wall. You could tax western union transfers to Mexico. Tariffs on Mexican goods. There is plenty of money sloshing around to pay for it if it is a priority.



posted on Dec, 11 2018 @ 08:44 PM
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a reply to: Lumenari

Even more, how it inevitably ends.



posted on Dec, 11 2018 @ 08:50 PM
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originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Lumenari

Even more, how it inevitably ends.



In this case, the NUSA or the Continent of Allied States.

Not like at this point there is going to be a merger between the left and the right.

It has gone too far... playing politics with socialist Democrats has become a zero sum game.

They give nothing and eventually take everything.

We'll see where it goes...

I'm OK with the right side.




posted on Dec, 11 2018 @ 08:50 PM
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originally posted by: 00018GE
It costs $65 to cross into Mexico. It cost $35 to cross into the US. There are 350 million crossings into the US every year. If we charges an extra $35, It would raise 1.2 billion per year. Would this work? It seems like a simple solution.


It seems like a solution that any good businessperson would approve of.




posted on Dec, 11 2018 @ 09:34 PM
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It costs $65 to cross into Mexico.


Where did you get that number?



www.mexperience.com...



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posted on Dec, 11 2018 @ 09:40 PM
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originally posted by: 00018GE
It costs $65 to cross into Mexico. It cost $35 to cross into the US. There are 350 million crossings into the US every year. If we charges an extra $35, It would raise 1.2 billion per year. Would this work? It seems like a simple solution.


"There are 350 million crossings into the US every year."

Is that right.

🐑



posted on Dec, 11 2018 @ 10:44 PM
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The border separating Mexico and the United States is the most frequently crossed international boundary in the world,[3][1][4] with approximately 350 million legal crossings taking place annually



posted on Dec, 11 2018 @ 10:54 PM
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No, it would be much simpler if Mexico would just pay for the wall so that Trump doesn’t shut down our government.

This is the most ridiculous policy fight I have ever seen. It boils down to Trump wanting something tangible as his legacy. He wants to be able to point to a big atrocious wall and say to himself, I did that. It’s nothing to do with keeping out illegals, and everything to do with Trump stroking his ego.

Did you know that Trump has employed illegal immigrants for years?

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posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 01:36 AM
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Well, that would make too much sense so I wouldnt count on it.

However, it looks like its going to be built out of the military budget. Drop in a bucket from that. Seems a fairly sensible use of funds to me, seeing how the border wall is literally for defense.
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posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 12:01 PM
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It sounds simple because it's an overly simplistic view on how the finances of the government work.

Which agency collects immigration fees? Does it depend on whether you cross by foot/car or via airplane?

Let's say immigration fees for air are collected by the FAA. Does the FAA have the authority to spend funds on any type of border security. No.

For example, GSA has the appropriated funds provided in their portion of each spending bill/budget, but that money is already appropriated to certain functions and can't be used for other things. GSA also has revolving funds based on rent collections and service/supply contracts. Can those revolving funds be used to fund DHS or CBP functions? No.

The idea that an increase in immigration fees automatically leads to the funds to build a border wall is flawed without the legal statutory authority to do so. Changing statutory authority is no simple task, nor is delegation of authority from one agency to another, especially when the agency losing the authority (and funding) would fight it to the bitter end.

In the corporate world it would be like PepsiCo realizing that Taco bell (owned by Pepsico) needed additional revenue for border security (that's a joke kids!) so they raise the price of Pepsi or KFC. One subsidiary of PepsiCo can't legally co-mingle funds with another.
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posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 12:26 PM
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It sounds simple because it's an overly simplistic view on how the finances of the government work.


All that doesn't matter when the president is chosen by GOD. He transcends worldly politics with a wave of his mighty small hand. It's in the Bible!!

www.politico.com...


www.vox.com...
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posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 12:29 PM
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Only the honest ones would pay.



posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 12:36 PM
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originally posted by: BlackJackal
a reply to: 00018GE

No, it would be much simpler if Mexico would just pay for the wall so that Trump doesn’t shut down our government.

This is the most ridiculous policy fight I have ever seen. It boils down to Trump wanting something tangible as his legacy. He wants to be able to point to a big atrocious wall and say to himself, I did that. It’s nothing to do with keeping out illegals, and everything to do with Trump stroking his ego.

Did you know that Trump has employed illegal immigrants for years?

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Most ridiculous I've ever seen is when Obama shut the government down over his crap healthcare that most of the country didn't like.

So you don't like a secure border, correct?

All your last sentence proves is that Trump doesn't hate illegals like you guys claim he does.



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