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posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 10:28 PM
So last election cycle we here in Washington State voted down an initiative 1631. The people spoke, and the Governor took notice. Governor Inslee noticed that his big scheme to tax the people of Washington State was not liked by the people, so instead of fixing the issue, moving on from the issue, he decides to circumvent the people instead. So here's a little background on what the people of this state didn't want:

From the Washington State Secretary of States site: WARNING THIS IS A PDF on I-1631

NEW SECTION. Sec. 1. FINDINGS AND DETERMINATIONS. The people of the state of Washington make the following findings and determinations:

(1) The intent of this chapter is to protect Washington for our children, our grandchildren, and future generations by quickly and effectively reducing pollution and addressing its negative impacts.

(2) Fossil fuel consumption and related pollution contribute directly to climate change and the regional effects of global warming, which harm Washington's health, economy, natural resources, environment, and communities. This harm includes, but is not limited to, intensified storms, droughts, sea level rise, increased flooding, more frequent and severe wildfires, and other adverse impacts to forests, agriculture, wildlife, fisheries, rivers, and the marine environment.

(3) Investments in clean air, clean energy, clean water, healthy forests, and healthy communities will facilitate the transition away from fossil fuels, reduce pollution, and create an environment that protects our children, families, and neighbors from the adverse impacts of pollution. Funding these investments through a fee on large emitters of pollution based on the amount of pollution they contribute is fair and makes sense. A pollution fee offsets and alleviates burdens to which those emitters directly contribute.

All good right? well all this would go into costing the people in Washington State to pay a carbon tax for just living in the state, while the money collected would go to a committee that had no oversight, no mandates, and limits on power. This was why the people said no, but now Inslee wants to just bypass the will of the people by doing it anyways.

Here's the news article: KING 5 News (6:31 PM PST December 10, 2018)

After another carbon tax failed to pass this year, Governor Jay Inslee announced a new climate initiative. He is calling it "a clean energy smart deal," but it's already drawn critics.
"I think this is a good day," Inslee said to an applauding crowd Monday.
Inslee's plan has several focal points that include transitioning the state's power grid to 100 percent clean energy, regulating development so buildings are more energy efficient, transitioning to a fossil fuel free public transportation system, and eliminating the use of hydrofluorocarbons.

Again sounds ok, but this part of the article points out the biggest flaw in Inslee's proposal.

"Rather than giving individuals more tools to save energy, however, the Governor's plan is a top-down regulatory approach that has often backfired," said Washington Policy Center Environmental Director Todd Myers. "We will do a more thorough analysis of the expenditures included in the package, but the efforts offered here have typically cost more than $50 per metric ton of CO2 avoided. By way of contrast, the state of Washington – and individuals – can invest in CO2 reduction projects that are certified effective for about $5 per metric ton, as I have. People who invest in these projects are reducing 10 times as much CO2 per dollar than the programs offered by the Governor. Unfortunately, politicians and some in the green community oppose these projects because they are outside government."

So let's just go with Inslee's idea and see what it says: from Inslee's Office:
Washington State office of the Governor

“We know what it will take to combat climate change and we should be confident in our ability to invent, create and build the technologies that will lead us to a healthier and more secure carbon-free future. Washingtonians are ready to see their elected leaders step up to prevent further harm to our forests, our air and our communities. These are enormous steps forward in our effort to save our state and our planet.”--Gov. Jay Inslee

And better outlined in the Medium:
The Medium (Dec 10)

Gov. Jay Inslee was joined today by Democratic legislators and climate action supporters to unveil a plan that would launch a dramatic reduction of Washington state’s greenhouse gas emissions over the next 15 years.

The proposal would accelerate the innovation and efforts already underway across the economy to transition to 100% clean energy, construct ultra-efficient buildings, establish a clean fuel standard, electrify the state’s transportation system and phase down super-pollutants in certain products. Combined, the policies would reduce greenhouse gas emissions in Washington state to 25 percent below 1990 levels by 2035.

So instead of not doing business with major polluters such as China and India, Inslee want to make the citizens of Washington State pay the price for these pollutors, and is using issues such as wild fires, salmon population, and the Orca population as drivers to tearjerk the population into supporting his agenda that I-1631 would have done.

Let's look at the little parts he is using to direct people to his cause:
Wildfires: Just like in California, there is tight controls on how land in managed while preventing people from taking proper actions in limiting the spread of these fires. If Inslee had allowed the Department of Natural Resources to do their jobs and science would dictate, these fires would be smaller in size and more manageible in nature.

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edit on Tue Dec 11 2018 by DontTreadOnMe because: trimmed overly long quote IMPORTANT: Using Content From Other Websites on ATS

posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 10:47 PM
a reply to: Guyfriday


There is money to be made by him and his buddies. Of course they want to tax you to death.

posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 10:50 PM
Salmon populations: There are a number of different salmon populations that are in the PNW (Pacific Northwest) but in this case it really just comes down to the chum salmon that the orca whales eat. Native American Tribes around here will still catch and gut these fish for their eggs, and just toss the bodies back into the water. In the Hood Canal waterway in Washington State it was so bad that the nitrogen that all these dead fish created killed off the whole area of water. It is just now beginning to recover, but the rules were never really dealt with even when given a chance to sit and discuss this with the tribes involved. Each governor has this opportunity to deal with this but Inslee passed on this.

The Orca populations: First and foremost let's be open about this issue. The South Sound Orca population should be dead and gone by now. If it wasn't for human interventions back in the 1970's the famous "J" pod would have been replaced with the Pacific Oceans "N" pod. SO by stating that we should allow nature to do it's thing, but then turning around and forcing a sub-class of a species to continue to live, isn't that counter-productive?

Outside of these issues why does any of this matter to people outside of Washington State? Well it looks like Inslee will be running for US President in 2020, and it is for that fact that I think people need to know about what this guy is up to and what his agenda really is. HE wants to force the people of his state to follow rules and pay taxes that they have already voted down. He bypasses the will of the people by attempting to force laws on them instead. Inslee isn't about helping the environment, he's creating a slush fund that doesn't have to report it's use to the people.

I could make another whole thread on how Inslee has never addressed the homeless crisis in this state, nor how he has only addressed the drug addiction issue in passing, but has many times gone after Constitutional rights of the people "for the good of the community". Inslee is a danger to the rights of the people and sadly is running the same front of "patriotism" the many people in the Democratic party is using. You can't believe in Democracy and think the Socialism is the best system for the people.

You can leave you comments, you can argue against me, and that's all fine and welcomed, but no matter what you people should be warned that Inslee and people like he are a danger to freedom.

posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 10:52 PM
Dang , seems to be following Macron and the UN

posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 10:57 PM

originally posted by: Gothmog
Dang , seems to be following Macron and the UN

Sadly he seems to follow the hack-brain ideas of Seattle as a guild line for the whole state. So the idea's of the UN and the getting close to being defunct French Government isn't too far off as it stands now.

posted on Dec, 11 2018 @ 08:21 AM
Governments don't take "no" for an answer. They put things to a vote multiple times, design "special" voting districts until they find one they can't lose in, or they find regulatory ways to achieve what they want without needing the people's approval, or they straight up legislate from the bench.

This is why France is exploding, and if they aren't careful, it will happen here too.

posted on Dec, 11 2018 @ 01:23 PM
a reply to: ketsuko
Gasoline has dipped below $2 a gallon in some places. I don't expect anyone to be protesting on the level of France here in the states anytime soon.

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