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Agenda 21 2030 - Carbon Tax - ride sharing & self-driving cars - Full assault on rural areas

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posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 07:03 PM
I've been listening to the MSM's reports on the proposed carbon tax especially when it comes to a progressive tax on gasoline and fuel and when you look at how the same networks are really promoting self driving cars as well as ride sharing. There is a long term plan to strip freedom and move people into the cities. Their plan to tax gas via CO2 is a ridiculous scheme that VASTLY effects the lower incomes disproportionately to the rich. Paying $5,000 per year in carbon taxes is a lot for someone making $20,000 per year, where people making the laws (making $250,000+ a year????) won't feel it nearly the same. That is a 25% tax vs a 2% tax of total income - and it hits the poor people so much harder. Also richer people might have businesses to write off travel/CO2 as an expense and that will reduce the % they pay as well.

In addition look at where the auto industry is heading, what they want to produce. I'm wondering if they are really having problems selling certain cars or if they are being pushed into dropping certain lines, models, etc (gov owns a lot of shares in these companies) and focusing on new things like self driving, electric, etc. This way they can control what the people can buy and it can limit their freedom of movement in so many ways.

NPR was saying that cars are going to be self driving and people will basically rent a car to go to work and pick them up. Basically they won't have one to be there for them to drive whenever they want one. Who wants to always have to wait for a car to show up? What about people in rural areas? If the rides are based on distance, people in rural areas will be hurting compared to people in the cities. Driving 5-10 miles to the grocery store or 15-30 miles to a mall or shopping center is a lot different for a person in a rural area vs someone in the city that is a few miles away if not less.

It seems like these issues are being pushed b/c it will force people to move into cities where they can then control them much easier. The Dem's hate the rural crowds and they know land ownership has a lot of power, but force them to move to the city because of economics by making cars too expensive to run in rural areas, then there is no choice.

when you look at the maps of the areas that they want to "free up" as "wild life" areas or whatever, this is also another tool for them to move people into the cities. They will make getting and keeping insurance much harder and do the same thing as with cars - economic war on rural people.

Once in the cities they can spread their diseases more easily (their liberal zombie virus, GMO's, vaccines, TV/screens everywhere 24/7, CCTV everywhere, etc) and keep an eye on the public.

They have been doing this incrementally by raising taxes, building schools like they are going out of style. People need to stand up and say ENOUGH! A new school doesn't do squat when the teachers are teaching BS and or are terrible teachers (even a good teacher doesn't help with a bad curriculum)

On top of all of this it seems they are letting the infrastructure fall apart in many areas and or doing poor repair jobs which I think is another tactic for them to attack the people. This seems to be happening in both the cities and rural areas though, I saw the largest pot holes in my life (could have gotten lost in one) in Philly earlier this year, so it might just be systemic.

I think the left has been pushing for pot use b/c it makes people too dumb to see through their BS, it probably makes them more susceptible to their messaging (NLP & subliminal) they sneak in subtly and overtly. It makes the dummies watch the people on the celebrities, MSM and late night comics and think that they are smart and witty, have good points and are actually "deep thinkers", JUST LIKE THEM!. It is an attack that has been ongoing since 1969 and probably eariler and they have worn people down through their hollywood propaganda machine making them think pot is "all good" b/c it's "Natural man, it's OF god, Bro...". And what is the effect? Snowflakes and Antifa.

posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 07:05 PM
If you think people are easier to control in Cities you have not been watching what is going on in France.

posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 07:14 PM
a reply to: DigginFoTroof

Yeah, that is called Agenda 21

Agenda 21" -- which, according to the UN's own website, is a "comprehensive plan of action to be taken globally, nationally and locally by organizations of the United Nations system, governments and major groups, in every area in which human impacts on the environment."

In so many words, the United Nations seeks to co-opt, via individual governments, and eventually, a "one-world government," privately held land under the auspices of ensuring its "sustainability." Worse still, the UN's Agenda 21 has even laid out plans for "depopulation" or rather, "population control.


The language in this section implies empowerment of women, children, unions, farmers, and indigenous peoples. However, if you dig deeper you’ll discover that all of this equality actually means

the abolition of personal property

the demise of rural living

mandatory birth (population) control

the “redevelopment” of cities

So, basically, Communism 101.

They intend to warehouse people in small areas for a multi-fold goal. It will make them easier to control, easier to poison and/or chemically sterilize through managed food and water supplies, and will remove personal ownership of natural resources.

The sleight-of-hand empowerment will actually take away the rights of families by disallowing ownership of personal property, curtailing their physical liberty by making all transportation public, and providing a pro-Agenda education/brainwashing for all.


This section describes how to get the whole world on board the happy train to Agenda 21-land.

Redistribution of financial resources (i.e., taking it away from some and sharing it with others)

Technology (public transit, “equal” distribution of energy usage, monitoring of behaviors through big brother technologies)

Science and environmentalism (removing people from rural areas to “save” the natural resources from pollution and mismanagement)

Re-education (brainwashing with propaganda)

Restructuring of local governments (installing puppet leaders)

This will be presented as Utopian, but really, it will turn everyone into carefully warehoused slaves with just enough food and supplies to make those who don’t think too deeply, content.

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posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 07:21 PM
So GHW Bush sold us out in 1992? What a great guy! No wonder he got such great coverage last week!

posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 07:25 PM
I also thought this was a proposal that was still being discussed in the UN, not something that had been passed. I've seen this referred to before but thought it was something still being written and getting support.

One thing that these "Alt-news" programs need to do a better job of, as well as the MSM, is when they talk about things like this and name it, they need to say if it has passed or if it is up for discussion (like legislation going through congress before being signed into law).

posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 07:33 PM
Then we should be glad we have Trump as president because I'm sure he will have none of that BS. And by the way, CA would have a cow, or a carrot, whatever, because they are one of the states that people spend the most time driving to and from work. But rural areas don't have enough people to support this either. This whole idea is a joke.

posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 07:36 PM
a reply to: DigginFoTroof

Never going to happen.

Self-sustainable energy is so far off industrially and such a massive expenditure that we will have to keep relying on fossil fuels for at least another few generations.

The economy will pop before then, the Great Correction will happen and then those of us that are left will have to use the cheapest means of fuel available.

Which goes right back to fossil fuels.

I do understand your point that it is an agenda to get everyone living in a city to "reduce carbon emissions".

That time has already come and gone... unless Gore can find his 90 trillion dollars to accomplish it... to find out it doesn't work.

However, you have to feed the masses... so you are always going to have to have a rural component. regardless of how you pare the population down.

It's a pipe dream by people with too much power and too much time on their hands.

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posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 07:37 PM
a reply to: DigginFoTroof

Nope 1992

George Bush was there. Bill Clinton later by executive order established the Presidents Council for sustainable development

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posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 08:20 PM
Cash for clunkers was another Agenda 21 ploy.
Don't want cars people can repair themselves.
Canada is already paying carbon taxes I believe, their tax totals averaging something like 42% of their annual income.

posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 09:18 PM
Having worked in government, and observed others in government..... government, much less World government....they are too stupid to get anything accomplished with would blow up in their faces. And, who would enforce this hair brain idea???? Cops?? Nope! Soldiers?? Nope!!! Maybe UN type soldiers ??? Americans would kick their behind.....just don't see it.

posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 10:25 PM
The people who grow the food for city people live in the country. They need vehicles to get around. If they plan on destroying all of the farmers here and importing the food so they can shut down the food supply if people say anything, then I guess the people in the cities who want this kind of deal will die too. Talk about making an insecure culture, one under complete control of the central power. This sounds like something forming right in the dark ages.

posted on Dec, 11 2018 @ 01:39 AM
a reply to: SR1TX

If you think people are easier to control in Cities you have not been watching what is going on in France.

If you think what's going on in France is anywhere near what country folk are capable of, you're sorely ignorant of our lifestyle. I've seen country folk protecting themselves, and it ain't pretty.

There is a gravel pit not far from me. When they opened up, they were setting off some huge explosions... destroyed several wells around here and a few boulders were landing in yards around them. That went on a couple months until people got fed up. Let's just say no one at that pit will ever set off charges like that again. It never made the news, because the news doesn't care what happens out here.

There's also a little hollow, with one road in and one road out. There is no police presence, because the folks who live there don't want a police presence. They don't want any presence, and I for one will respect that. When I was young I mistakenly turned down that road and made the mistake of following it to the end, just to see where it went. It stopped in the front yard of a small house. I realized I was probably trespassing and turned around. As I left, in the mirror, I saw the door to the house swing open and a fellow with a very large shotgun come out of it pointing at me. I left... quickly. Luckily, he didn't hit me directly, but he did fire and a few pellets took out my rear window. The police will not even turn down that road; in a cruiser they will be dead before they make it that far. The road is watched. Come to find out, I knew the people; they just didn't know my car. Nice folk, really.

When I was in my 20s, a police cruiser made the mistake of going somewhere he shouldn't have. He wound up in the back roads and stopped at a house to serve a warrant. As he pulled to the side of the road, a fully auto machine gun rang out from behind the house in the trees. He took cover in his car and radioed for help. Apparently someone at the station knew the area, because a few minutes later a second cruiser drove by, slowed down, and opened the door. The cop dove in and they left. I saw the cruiser a few days later. It had been burned to the ground in place (yes, I knew the area, and they knew me).

I could go on, but I think that gets my point across. Do not mess with country folk.

City folk will get upset over anything, and yell and scream and whine, some will loot and burn things. Country folk will keep quiet and live and let live until they've had enough... then people get hurt. Badly.


If this is the agenda, someone has seriously miscalculated. Not only will they start a rebellion they can't stop, but they are also cutting off all of the food supply. Cities do not grow food. Even if they left the farmers alone, the farmers would not stand for their families being forced to leave. There is a sense of community and a tie to the land out here that dominates the entire culture... one that I think most others do not realize.

Maybe that's why the attack on Southern culture, come to think of it. Someone should tell the instigators that we don't hold our values based on statues and flags. They're symbols, not sources.


posted on Dec, 11 2018 @ 02:07 AM
I just made a thread about this type of issue in Washington State. AS SEEN HERE We have a large portion of our state that deals with agriculture, and still the Governor wants to go fully Fossil Fuel Free. It's funny that if these politicians would get their collective heads out of their "you know where's", then they would see that if built the CO2 coming out of a coat fire powerplant could be channeled to feed green algae which can be turned into bio-diesel. Instead of listening to reason and science, these politicians are only interested in the money they can scam from the uninformed.

posted on Dec, 11 2018 @ 02:39 AM
a reply to: DigginFoTroof

The purpose of these taxes is not only to raise money but to drive change in society.

Given these people want to herd all the lower level masses of people into high rises in the city then its logical they would use taxes to not just raise money but to drive long term change.

According to Dr Day in his talk called "everything is in place and none can stop us now, one of the things the powers that should not be; want to do is herd the masses into small units of high rise accommodation to keep them there and make them easier to control.

It then goes without saying that the elite want to then have the countryside all themselves.

posted on Dec, 11 2018 @ 02:45 AM

Why Ford Is Buying Detroit’s Derelict Train Station
The station feels like a symbol because it is. When it opened in 1913, the grand 18-story office tower, its cavernous waiting room fronted by looming Corinthian columns, was the tallest rail station in the world. Two hundred trains left each day, bound for New York City and Boston and Chicago and West Virginia and Canada. In the station’s heyday, from the 1920s to the '50s, Detroit was the fourth-most populous city in the US, fed by influxes of immigrants who came to work for the mighty auto industry that called the city home.
Detroiters might soon grow more enthusiastic about photos of Michigan Central. Today Ford officially announced it would purchase and restore the station, transforming it into the centerpiece of a new 2,500-employee autonomous and electric vehicle testing and research center by 2022. (About 2,500 more employees will be added later.)

This is a savvy PR move, sure, but it’s also a major investment with a big message. Sayeth Ford: We’re not Midwestern fuddy-duddies anymore. We’re a forward-thinking, get-around-anyhow-anyway sort of transportation network, in competition with another big Detroit automaker, sure, but also with Uber and Waymo and all the Silicon Valley tech giants.

"Palo Alto is about moving bits. We’re about moving people," said Jim Hackett, the company’s CEO said during a Tuesday morning press conference, in front of the station’s stained edifice now draped with blue Ford banners. "This can be our Sand Hill Road."

posted on Dec, 11 2018 @ 04:22 AM
Automation and modern farming practices reducing the need for agricultural workers and manual labour. Huge machines roaming the countryside, plowing, planting, harvesting, guzzling huge amounts of diesel.

The Industrial Revolution saw large numbers of rural communities moving into towns and cities to find work. Work that provided higher than subsistence level income. Insufficient rural migration for those that want to see the countryside used only as their own personal playgrounds? Is Agenda 21 phase 2?

Not really sure how the motor insurance sector see this. If they cannot screw the annual premium out of the common man, won't they risk going out of business ?

Are not the insurance companies and the banking sector they rely upon using their vast wealth to pay lobbyists to undermine Agenda 21?

And if people are being manoeuvred into high rise blocks in towns and cities, how easy would it be to create the conditions that allow them to be burned alive on the stairwells and in their beds (eg. Grenfell)!

Agenda 21, reducing carbon footprint and taking greater care of the planet, excellent in theory. In practice, just another control mechanism to screw the working classes into the ground.

posted on Dec, 11 2018 @ 09:20 AM

originally posted by: DigginFoTroof
I also thought this was a proposal that was still being discussed in the UN, not something that had been passed. I've seen this referred to before but thought it was something still being written and getting support.

One thing that these "Alt-news" programs need to do a better job of, as well as the MSM, is when they talk about things like this and name it, they need to say if it has passed or if it is up for discussion (like legislation going through congress before being signed into law).

Our Liberal Canadian government is adopting all the UN so called non binding agreements and then starts turning them into laws. We signed the Paris Accord and now have carbon tax . Some provinces are taking the Feds to court over it.
Just found out we signed the UNDRIP and turned it into law in May. This allows indeginous to veto energy projects and they are.We can't get pipelines anywhere between them and environmentalists.
Now we just signed onto the non binding Global Compact of Migration. This makes migration a right and spells out what the host country must provide. It also stifles the media.That was being buried as well till the alt news Rebel.brought it to attention. Of course you are a racist,bigot,xenophobic if you think you should have sovereignty over your border
Trudeau,the globalist,is selling out Canada to the UN and the Agenda 2030

posted on Dec, 11 2018 @ 11:39 AM
a reply to: infolurker

The use of PROPAGANDA by the US Gov't. was SIGNED by Obama on Sept. 15, 2015

Here are two videos showing the Media is already involved..

*** NOTE ***

Those who watch Fox™ cannot use the catchphrase that You'v used for voting for Drumpf the old "Lesser of 2 evils" excuse/alibi They are just as GUILTY as CNN™

So basically We are ALL screwed....

posted on Dec, 11 2018 @ 11:44 AM

posted on Dec, 11 2018 @ 07:28 PM
Regarding the post above about Ford Motor Co., and this thread in general...I looked and looked and searched some more, but unfortunately can't locate something. Within the past month or so, I read a post from an alleged automotive industry insider. I want to say it was from a recently-retired from GM or a current upper-level GM employee, but I can't be sure. I don't think it was on ATS; I'm a gearhead and fairly sure it was on an automotive website.

Anyhow, the post was about the future of automobiles in the US and how the manufacturers are positioning themselves to push it. The author of the post made a whole bunch of statements that sound logical and reasonable. Some of the content I remember includes how things like parking radar and blind spot detection are making people get more used to automated aspects of vehicles. The author claimed that there is extensive testing of unmanned passenger vehicles going on right now, at least by GM, including plans for sensors on utility poles to help guide them.

It was an eye-opening, thought-provoking post, at the very least.

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