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In Russia, proposed to break the contract with the United States on Alaska

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posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 07:07 AM
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Any attempt to grab Alaska would instantly start a shooting war. It is simply not going to happen.




posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 07:08 AM
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originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: joemoe
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk


Yes with just the US's stockpile we can do it 4 times over!


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Translated:


With such an army? Can you?

An English soldier, converted to Islam, performed an operation and became the first transgender gay woman to practice Islam


You are confusing Army with Shiny Red buttons, sir. We do not need an Army of anyone to eliminate Russia and the World. Only need to make sure our buttons still work, and they do.
edit on 12/10/2018 by eriktheawful because: edited out removed post



posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 07:11 AM
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a reply to: SR1TX

Of course, if you have time to click

In Russian it is called "give a monkey a grenade and see what happens next"
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posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 07:21 AM
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originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: SR1TX

Of course, if you have time to click

In Russian it is called "give a monkey a grenade and see what happens next"


What?

Russia is not attacking anyone or ever getting Alaska back, bro. Russia is flat broke and has a dwindling population.

This wet dream the World has about a US Empire failing is just....sad.



posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 07:25 AM
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a reply to: SR1TX

Like all young nations, you are too impatient, my friend.
There is an old millennial eastern wisdom: "If you sit on the river bank for a long time, the corpse of your enemy will pass by."



posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 07:26 AM
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If Russia really does want Alaska, they don't need to fight for it.

Just get a million Russians to cross the Bering strait and ask for amnesty.
Alaska's leadership is so liberal, they will hand it right over.



posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 07:43 AM
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Sounds like someone is upset they got the short end of the stick.
To bad for them...
Good luck trying to get the US to hand over a state...lol



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posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 08:22 AM
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originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: RussianTroll

True...but they didn't have nuclear weapons at their disposal.

Right or wrong, modern mankind does!

So, Rome may indeed burn, and oh boy will it!

It will burn so hot it will fuse silica into solid glass.



And 400 MILLION guns. We've been at war 222 out of 239 years we've been a country. War is our middle name. The only thing you gonna get is your asses handed to ya.



posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 08:37 AM
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Am I hearing this correctly? Russia is going to claim Alaska now?

Well, at least I got my laugh in for the day.

TheRedneck



posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 08:43 AM
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Funny. Literally just finished a post apocalyptic book about this very scenario. US and Russia go to war over Alaska and the they story is about a family surviving in the Alaskan wild during and after the war.

The Russians nuke fairbanks...



posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 08:54 AM
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Russia wants the state or maybe Compensation that they have a legal right to
Stolen land is a big issue, maybe you haven’t noticed
Russian casinos in Alaska

A legal right to in an international court, you might just have to cough up some compensation



posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 08:54 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

I don't have a horse in this race....but get real.

Alaska is part of the USA and is going to stay that way, end of story.

And do you honestly think Russia would risk all out war and probably M.A.D. over Alaska?



posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 08:56 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

Interesting, could the US be having it's own version of the Falkland islands dispute going on hmm, actually the state of mexico has a far stronger claim to parts of the southern US and they are never going to get them back either.

In the case of Alaska though even if the money was not received and was pilfered as is far more than likely along the way the Russian's signed away the land's of Alaska which at that time they regarded as probably worthless to the new alliance of nation's called the United States of America and so legally they then lost there claim upon that land.

Legal and moral though are two very distinctly different thing's since remember the US did also get Lot's of Native chieftain's to sign plenty of document's they could not read having told them they meant one thing while in fact they meant something entirely different so to a very large extend the USA is actually founded upon Fraud, Theft and Murder as well all know as indeed were all empires including Russia (Fraud played a smaller role back then and they just took and killed but pretty much the same thing).

Actually as a nation state the Russian Empire today the Russian Federation is actually not really that much older than the US is, were it now sit's were once other empires dating back to pre-history and yes it is different because to a large degree those empires bloodlines in many cases still flow today among the Russian population but it is also the same, the Russian tribes conquered them, murdered and took there land's, woman and property for there own.

When I mentioned the Falkland's though WE actually have a far stronger and more legitimate claim than Argentina does.
In that case the Argentinian's had NEVER owned the island's and were GIVEN them as a part of there independence by the Spanish (Cue them teaching there children in school that they are rightfully part of Argentina when in fact the land they claim to own is rightfully property of the native people they conquered? - whom also never had anything to do with the Falkland's) BUT the Spanish had already LONG AGO lost them to the French whom had then sold them to the British and before British sheep farmers settled the island's the ONLY long term human settlers were actually Portuguese Whalers whom were squatting there and were evicted by the British Navy when they found them because they were not given permission to set up on British territory.

Though you can understand why the Argentinian's think they have the right to them and after generation's of being schooled that they are there's regardless of the validity or lack thereof of there claim why they feel it is unjust that WE have them and why we feel WE have the right (though they are basically worthless and cold and bleak and full of inbred sheep shaggers but hey were stuck with em).
N.B.
And a lot of innocent kid's died fighting for them on both sides of that conflict with no real knowledge of what the hell they were fighting for but both sides' believing they were fighting for there homeland while the real fight was for the politician's and no one else.
(Actually in my book the life of any one of those kid's, British or Argentinian was far more valuable than that bunch of stinking sheep dung in the south Atlantic but I suppose for some unspecified strategic purpose they may be of interest and there is a feint possibility of oil in deep water within there territorial claim (and perhaps Uranium as well) though morally that does not make one iota of a difference those kid's lost there lives over nothing).
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posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 09:11 AM
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originally posted by: Raggedyman
Russia wants the state or maybe Compensation that they have a legal right to
Stolen land is a big issue, maybe you haven’t noticed
Russian casinos in Alaska

A legal right to in an international court, you might just have to cough up some compensation


They probably want to drill for oil in areas that would otherwise come into dispute with the US on that part of the arctic shelf related to Alaska?.



posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 09:15 AM
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originally posted by: SocratesJohnson
Boarders are immoral

If the Russian migrants getting away from one of the top two most current evil leaders, it’s moral to let them settle in Russia. We as Americans have to give them housing and money, let them get an ID and vote....it’s inky civilized


Borders are door's and wall's or else every tom dick and harry would be stealing your bed, nicking what was in your fridge, perving at your girlfriend - or at you, parking in your space, pushing in front of you at the checkout.
Sorry Borders are MORAL and CORRECT.
How we use those borders though that can become immoral.



posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 09:15 AM
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originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: RussianTroll

I don't have a horse in this race....but get real.

Alaska is part of the USA and is going to stay that way, end of story.

And do you honestly think Russia would risk all out war and probably M.A.D. over Alaska?



And what did the United States think when they separated Ukraine, Belarus, other lands, the Crimea from Russia? Do you really think that this will not affect you? You have created a precedent.

By the way, when, on April 30, 1789, the first president of the United States, George Washington, took the oath, the Crimea was Russian, as was Ukraine, and Belarus.



posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 09:17 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll


Yeah, sure, and France wants the Louisiana Purchase back.



posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 09:26 AM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Well if the US didn’t purchase Louisiana legally then there is an issue
It seems the Alaskan deal was not a legal transaction, did you not read the posts in the thread?



posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 09:27 AM
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Maybe we could strike a deal with Canada and Mexico to divvy up the other 49.

With China's permission, of course.







 
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