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What Will House Democrats Use as President Trumps Impeachable Offense?

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posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 11:26 AM
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a reply to: Graysen

Democrat leaders are of the belief that President Trump (for some reason) will NOT release the dirt he has on them. Very strange that they're not being more humble. Especially this past weekend, when they're declaring that Trump could "serve jail time". (Adam Schiff on Sunday TV circuit)




posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 11:57 AM
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originally posted by: whargoul

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: JinMI

I'm ready to fight a civil war


More like you need a safe space.

What's with you guys fetishizing civil war?

What are you over compensating for? Do you feel helpless in your personal lives?


Incompetent political opponents with "Little Man's Syndrome."



posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 12:00 PM
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originally posted by: whargoul

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Zanti Misfit

But remember, the 53 to 47 Republican-led U.S. Senate must ratify (approve) the impeachment, or it goes nowhere.


Senate republicans WILL vote for impeachment, in my opinion.

They are no better than the democrats.

Trump had the House and Senate but got no wall and Obamacare still exists (just without the mandate).

I think the republicans will side with the democrats (to avoid the looming civil war) and just eliminate Trump.


That, in my opinion, would take us to that final step into a full blown Civil War.


Your side controls all three arms of the government and you expect civil war? Your side must be really bad at governing...

Again why are you guys fetisfizing civil war?

YOU control the government, can't take a little minority opposition? Grow up and put big boy pants on?


Do you even bother reading what the response you're responding to was in response to? Pipe down, you look foolish.



posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 12:03 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: LSU2018

I already said it was to highlight the word smocked in red.
Is that how you spell grammar?
Anyway you guys sure get your world rocked by a simple joke.
Calm down...


Yeah that really rocked my world, let me tell you.



posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 12:06 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Graysen

Democrat leaders are of the belief that President Trump (for some reason) will NOT release the dirt he has on them. Very strange that they're not being more humble. Especially this past weekend, when they're declaring that Trump could "serve jail time". (Adam Schiff on Sunday TV circuit)


It's all part of the "stain Trump" narrative. The NYT can quote Schiff all summer 2020.

The dems are doing what Putin did to Hilary in 2015. Putin didn't think Trump would really win. He was trying to damage and stain Hilary so that once she was president, he could "expose" crap on her and weaken her. His plans played right into the Don's hands. Which Putin didn't care because Trump would inevitably get some poop on himself in the process.

Helping Put get the nomination for "2016 Top Evil Genius" award.



posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 12:54 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust


What you're implying is profound! You're saying that Democrats will not do anything good for America and the citizens of this country, because history books will give President Trump the credit???

Democrats in Congress love America. They wouldn't be that selfishly petty, would they?


Your sarcasm pours further like a raging river...



posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 01:08 PM
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originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: carewemust

Can't wait.

Fingers crossed!

Impeach 45 NOW!!





posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 01:50 PM
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originally posted by: Chadwickus
You take the piss out of democrats for not having anything solid, and for grasping at every single straw they can, but you do the exact same for Hillary.

Excuse me?

Hillary's crimes are fully documented and a matter of public record, no straw grasping required.

Evidence: FBI Director James Comey's 'Nolle prosequi' speech...



posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 03:31 PM
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originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: carewemust

Can't wait.

Fingers crossed!

Impeach 45 NOW!!


Better stock up on finger splints, since you may accidentally break a few from crossing them so hard.



posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 05:49 PM
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This is what I could come up with.

There seem to be at least a few options. To begin with, there could be the crimes committed with Cohen.


Indeed, said Napolitano, Trump could face even more legal peril than Cohen over the campaign finance violations, which center on payments made to two women to ensure their silence about alleged affairs with Trump, before the 2016 election.

“He is on their radar screen for paying someone to commit a crime, which in itself is three crimes,” Napolitano said. “It’s the crime, it’s conspiracy to commit the crime and it’s procuring someone to commit a crime. So he’s actually, if all this is correct and they have the evidence for it, exposed to more criminal activity than Michael Cohen.”


Newsweek

There could be crimes related to collusion with Russia (the word "collusion" is not a crime). I would imagine the House would have to wait on that one until more evidence came forward, although the Democrats might start hearings and the like. I would read this article, it is an opinion piece, but it points out that Mueller seems to have a lot more evidence than we know about.


Simply put, our president has most likely committed crimes, above all conspiring with a hostile power to boost his 2016 campaign (including seeking financial gain from that unfriendly foreign country), which none of his predecessors did, so it’s increasingly likely that Trump will accrue punishments never visited on any American president.


The Observer: President Trump may Go to Jail - For the Rest of His Life

There are also multiple cover-ups, lies told to the FBI by Trump's team (and possibly Trump himself if he lied to Mueller in his interview), and then there is the obstruction of justice angle.

On Cover-Ups, with a bit about Obstruction of Justice:


If there is one lesson that Washington learned from Watergate, it is that “the cover-up is worse than the crime.” There is still no evidence that Richard Nixon ordered the burglary of the Democratic National Committee headquarters. It was his attempts to obstruct the investigation that brought him down. That lesson was reinforced in the 1990s. President Bill Clinton was impeached not because of any financial improprieties involving the Whitewater Development Corp., or even his sexual transgressions, but because he lied about his trysts with Monica Lewinsky under oath.



But no cover-up will do as much damage to the Trump presidency as the one involving the investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election. Admittedly, in this instance, the cover-up may not be worse than the crime – if the crime in question is conspiracy against the United States in collusion with a hostile foreign power. But Trump’s attempts to obstruct the Russia probe are nevertheless backfiring and actually making matters worse for him. Indeed, a special counsel would never have been appointed in the first place were it not for Trump’s firing of FBI Director James B. Comey to stop the probe of the “Russia thing.”

Last month Trump fired Jeff Sessions as attorney general and appointed a political hack as acting attorney general because Sessions would not block special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe on his behalf. But Matthew G. Whitaker has so far not done anything more than Sessions did to rein in Mueller – witness the guilty plea last week from former Trump attorney Michael Cohen, who admitted to lying to Congress about Trump’s pursuit of a Moscow real estate deal even as he was securing the Republican presidential nomination. Earlier, Cohen implicated Trump in the commission of two federal crimes by pleading guilty to violating campaign finance laws at his client’s direction to cover up his affairs with a porn star and a Playboy playmate.

Now Trump has taken obstruction of justice to a whole new level by praising his old friend Roger Stone for refusing to testify against him, dangling a pardon before his former campaign chairman (and now convicted felon) Paul Manafort, and urging a judge to give a maximum sentence to Cohen (another felon) because he cooperated with prosecutors. No less than George Conway, husband of White House counselor Kellyanne Conway, has suggested that Trump just violated 18 U.S.C. §§ 1503, 1512, which covers the crime of witness tampering.


Max Boot: Trump can’t do anything right – even his coverups are incompetent
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posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 05:54 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Only problem being...and it's a doozy...is the Dems don't have the Senate. Oops.

No matter what they make up, or even find--possible, I suppose, though after nearly two years of looking...--something, the odds on the GOP senate doing anything is...unlikely.

Just what rises to the level of High Crimes? Other than the really bad tan??



posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 05:59 PM
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a reply to: seagull

The House will be able to hold hearings and get information public that could be damaging to Trump that would have otherwise been kept secret by Republicans.

If there is enough damning evidence, Republicans in the Senate might have to turn on Trump. They would theoretically have to choose between their integrity and ethics and loyalty to Trump in this case.
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posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 06:00 PM
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a reply to: Xtrozero

In all likelihood, that's the plan going forward.

They're going to trot out the "impeachment" rhetoric to color voters opinions, while trotting out some Washington retread...and, hey presto, status quo established and reinforced.



posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 06:02 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

Are you getting your information from Q? Do you have links? What dirt?



posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 06:04 PM
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originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: DBCowboy

Only problem being...and it's a doozy...is the Dems don't have the Senate. Oops.

No matter what they make up, or even find--possible, I suppose, though after nearly two years of looking...--something, the odds on the GOP senate doing anything is...unlikely.

Just what rises to the level of High Crimes? Other than the really bad tan??


The republicrats want the bad orange one gone.

It doesn't matter what party they sit at.
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posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 06:05 PM
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a reply to: darkbake

Oh, that could happen, certainly it could.

But, how many of us are going to, after the last two years--actually more, since it started before the election--of constant accusations, without proof put forth, believe it?

I've no love for the Donald, but I don't want to see a railroading, either.



posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 06:10 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

For the GOP to turn on him, it'd have to be a lot more than anything we've seen so far.

The GOP wants to retain power. Yes? To do so, they need the WH.

Remember the electoral returns. The middle of the country, and the south, not to mention the rural areas everywhere else love the guy. Many of the counties the election returns weren't close. My own county here in Washington went to him by over 70 percent...a monstrous margin. Other counties even higher.

That's where much of the GOP base is, right now. The south, midwest, and rural America. No, if they value their majority I don't know that the senate will quite dare to turn on him. They may feel the price will be too high.



posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 06:23 PM
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a reply to: seagull

Since when did politicians care about voters?



posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 08:48 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

" What Will House Democrats Use as President Trumps Impeachable Offense? "


He is his Own Man , and the Left Cannot Except that Reality without Denying their Own Lies .



posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 08:56 PM
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a reply to: darkbake

What do your Tarot Cards say about all this ?

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