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Maybe Why The World Hates Trump

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posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 08:15 PM
a reply to: uninspired

Neuroscience has pretty much established freewill to be illusory, at least in the way that most imagine.

As to predestination, that can be a sticky wicket also.

If i say six of one, and a half dozen of the other, it does not even begin to address that conundrum.

Problem is this is where metaphysics(philosophy) and real physics(science) collide.

A very interesting conundrum all the same and a field of study we have only just begun to address, my guess is some of the answers reside down amongst the quantum foam.
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posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 08:45 PM
a reply to: andy06shake

LOL , Good One Mr. Whatever , you do have some Imagination there . I'm Agnostic .............

posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 08:55 PM
a reply to: Zanti Misfit

Certainly entertain the possibility of some higher form of existence, just not one that requires our attendance, nevermind monies.

Plus its always good to hedge one's bets, and if you are wrong, whos going to know, certainly not you, if you see what i mean?

Imagination, new ideas, images or concepts of external objects and technology are what put humanity where it is today, pretty much enabling us to communicate and have this very conversation really.
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posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 09:12 PM
a reply to: andy06shake

Plain Talk ..............

Look Dude , whether you Believe that or Not ,We ALL have a SOUL . Where do you Actually Think it came from ? A Universal Biological Mathematical Probability , or a Divine Creation ? From the ONE Came Many .

posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 09:19 PM
a reply to: Zanti Misfit

"Look Dude , whether you Believe that or Not ,We ALL have a SOUL ."

My personal belief aside that's entirely still debatable im afraid.

"Where do you Actually Think it came from ?"

Consciousness may well be a self emergent property of all complex systems of life. It's not a chicken and an egg scenario all the same.

"A Universal Biological Mathematical Probability , or a Divine Creation ? From the ONE Came Many ."

Or there are possibly an infinite amount of other solutions to those questions that us humans simply are not equipped to answer in any kind of meaningful manner just down to the very infinite nature of our universe.
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posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 09:21 PM
a reply to: andy06shake

Is your Name Thomas by Any Chance ? .............Hmm...

posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 09:23 PM
a reply to: Zanti Misfit

Given name is Andrew.

Why Thomas? Whos that when he's at home?

posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 09:25 PM

originally posted by: andy06shake

Like i said team effort, to think otherwise requires further study.

I'm not suggesting it wasn't a team effort, but America was in ALL locations, and I stand by my original point...

posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 09:30 PM
a reply to: Xtrozero

And the U.K was not also in the same theatres of war, air, land, and sea?

Team effort indeed, but America gained an empire of sorts, whilst we lost the better part of ours.

It was on its arse anyway, truth be told.

posted on Dec, 14 2018 @ 07:56 AM
a reply to: mamabeth
You can't "dwell in reality" if you're an adult believing in a book of fairy tales lol

posted on Dec, 15 2018 @ 02:53 PM
a reply to: AngryCymraeg

So you're saying he hasn't shone the light on the more unsavory politicians? Because saying such a thing would be asinine.

posted on Dec, 15 2018 @ 03:50 PM
a reply to: Abbby

What fairy tales would that be?

posted on Dec, 15 2018 @ 03:53 PM

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: Theocracy4America

We All Need to Grow Our Pairs Back too Bro BEFORE it is To Late !..............GOD BLESS OUR AMERICA !

You Know , the Present Reality where we have Constitutional Freedoms Bestowed Upon Us by the Founding Fathers of this Great Country , and that Gives Us the LEGAL Right To Question or Challenge Government ? Does WE THE PEOPLE Ring a Bell ?

I feel it. It rings a liberty bell.

posted on Dec, 15 2018 @ 05:43 PM
a reply to: Theocracy4America

That's probably how it got cracked.

Some Muppet with a rifle or more lightly Musket shot it.

Ding, ding.

On a more serious note was the bell not used to summon lawmakers to legislative sessions and to alert citizens about public meetings?

Can't see what that has to do with guns.
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posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 05:00 PM
a reply to: andy06shake

I was more making a pun about liberty (as well as the liberation of the salves) and our constitutional freedom to own guns or any weapon the military has, not really referencing the actual Liberty Bell.

By the way, how many people know that the word "Slave" is a derogatory word for people from Slovenia? I find it funny that the First Lady of the United States is now Slovenian. Shows how far the slaves have come. Inspiring Facts.
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posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 06:20 PM
a reply to: Theocracy4America

You cant say "Slave" these days, its indentured servant.

Or as we call them over here, poor souls on a minimum wage with a zero hour contract.

I did not know the word "Slave" was derived from "Slovenia", you learn something new every day.

posted on Dec, 20 2018 @ 11:03 AM

originally posted by: Serdgiam
a reply to: mamabeth

I'm not convinced its as simple as "following the god of the Bible or lucifer" though..

And in reality(/truth) neither self-identified nationalists nor globalists follow the God of the Bible. In practice (or in reality) most tend to follow their own selfish interests (usually financial or economical). Demonstrating they are following someone and/or something else.

1 Timothy 6:9,10

9 But those who are determined to be rich fall into temptation and a snare and many senseless and harmful desires that plunge men into destruction and ruin. 10 For the love of money is a root of all sorts of injurious things, and by reaching out for this love some have been led astray from the faith and have stabbed themselves all over with many pains.

Matthew 6:24

24 “No one can slave for two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will stick to the one and despise the other. You cannot slave for God and for Riches.

2 Timothy 2:23-26

23 Further, reject foolish and ignorant debates, knowing that they produce fights. 24 For a slave of the Lord does not need to fight, but needs to be gentle* [Or “tactful.”] toward all, qualified to teach, showing restraint when wronged, 25 instructing with mildness those not favorably disposed. Perhaps God may give them repentance* [Or “a change of mind.”] leading to an accurate knowledge of truth, 26 and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the Devil, seeing that they have been caught alive by him to do his will.


Proverbs 20:25

25 It is a snare for a man to cry out rashly, “Holy!”

And only later to give consideration to what he vowed.

Religion is a Snare and a Racket

Btw, according to Trump, he's both a nationalist and a globalist. Please ignore the anti-semitic picture and globalist conspiracy entertainment in the video below:

I know I don't hate Trump, I've just realized the truth that he's a cunning con-artist, actor and a bit of an attention-grabbing and attention-seeking clown who's efficient at telling people what they want to hear (tickling their ears) and performing an act that promotes particular popular ideologies and political views and makes people who like these ideologies or political views admire and vote for him (or some other form of support or admiration). And in this situation regarding the ideologies nationalism and globalism, he used to try to 'play both sides' in a 'having your cake and eating it too' kind of way (there's a special saying in Dutch that combines both expressions that doesn't translate that well to English that I'm thinking about now: "van 2 walletjes eten"); now he favors nationalism much more because of his target market or audience (not that he didn't do that before either, but I guess it will be harder to catch him saying that he's a globalist because of the whole 'nationalism vs globalism' false dichotomy-routine his political side has been playing for a while now to also tap into the Alex Jones-type of conspiracy entertainment market and the resentment against the political and financial "elite" among the voting public, with using terms such as "Deep State" or "the establishment" or "globalist socialist agenda"). That's not hate, cause love rejoices with the truth (see my signature).

2 Timothy 4:3,4

3 For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the wholesome* [Or “healthful; beneficial.”] teaching, but according to their own desires, they will surround themselves with teachers to have their ears tickled.* [Or “to tell them what they want to hear.”] 4 They will turn away from listening to the truth and give attention to false stories.

The real agenda or conspiracy one should wake up to for their own benefit:

The End of False Religion Is near!
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posted on Dec, 20 2018 @ 11:33 AM

originally posted by: mamabeth
a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

God put Trump into the White House! Is he perfect,no,is he a saint,no.
He is a patriot and loves this country and will fight to keep her free!

I don't think it is wise to be pretending to know what God is doing and who are the people he choses and who belong to Satan. You are trying to assume you have knowledge we have not be given.
Jesus had no interest in "states" or politics and told us to do likewise. Calling a country "her" and worshiping at her feet is not what Jesus told us to do. This whole world will be destroyed not just "her".

Deuteronomy 12:32 ESV
“Everything that I command you, you shall be careful to do. You shall not add to it or take from it.

We are clearly told to stay out of politics and the stuff that belongs to this world as it is now.Satan rules this world that is why he could offer the rulership of it to Jesus and Jesus refused. We need to stay out of it.

"Now there is a judging of this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out."(John 12:31; 14:30
"“My kingdom is no part of this world.” (John 18:36)

“My Kingdom is no part of this world.” (John 18:36) He would not get involved in politics, for his Kingdom was to be a heavenly one. He told Pilate that his work on earth was to “bear witness to the truth.”​—Read John 18:37.

Matthew 4
Again, the devil took Him up on an exceedingly high mountain, and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. 9 And he said to Him, “All these things I will give You if You will fall down and worship me.”

:10 Then Jesus said to him, “Away with you, Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him only you shall serve.’ ”
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posted on Dec, 20 2018 @ 12:45 PM

originally posted by: scojak
a reply to: mamabeth

Lucifer meaning: bringing the Light of God

No, that's not what it means. The name Lucifer occurs once in the Scriptures and only in some versions of the Bible. The Hebrew word translated “Lucifer” means “shining one.” Jerome’s Latin Vulgate uses “Lucifer” (light bearer), and this accounts for the appearance of that term in various versions of the Bible.

To clear up some other misunderstandings possibly held by the OP and some of those responding:

Who is this Lucifer? The expression “shining one,” or “Lucifer,” is found in what Isaiah prophetically commanded the Israelites to pronounce as a “proverbial saying against the king of Babylon.” Thus, it is part of a saying primarily directed at the Babylonian dynasty. That the description “shining one” is given to a man and not to a spirit creature is further seen by the statement: “Down to Sheol you will be brought.” Sheol is the common grave of mankind​—not a place occupied by Satan the Devil. Moreover, those seeing Lucifer brought into this condition ask: “Is this the man that was agitating the earth?” Clearly, “Lucifer” refers to a human, not to a spirit creature.​—Isaiah 14:4, 15, 16.

Why is such an eminent description given to the Babylonian dynasty? We must realize that the king of Babylon was to be called the shining one only after his fall and in a taunting way. (Isaiah 14:3) Selfish pride prompted Babylon’s kings to elevate themselves above those around them. So great was the arrogance of the dynasty that it is portrayed as bragging: “To the heavens I shall go up. Above the stars of God I shall lift up my throne, and I shall sit down upon the mountain of meeting, in the remotest parts of the north. . . . I shall make myself resemble the Most High.”​—Isaiah 14:13, 14. He arrogantly puts himself in God’s place without God's approval. So it is after being cut down to the earth that the Babylonian dynasty is mockingly referred to as the “shining one.” The pride of the Babylonian rulers indeed reflected the attitude of “the god of this system of things”​—Satan the Devil. (2 Corinthians 4:4) He too lusts for power and longs to place himself above God. But Lucifer is not a name Scripturally given to Satan.

For those who are under that impression. Also showing that "Lucifer" isn't "bringing the Light of God".

Trump is shining the light on the swamp.

I don't see how he's supposedly doing that either, if the swamp represents political corruption and politicians looking out for their own interests (usually financial or economical, see previous comment of mine), then he's basically Shrek the Third: King of the Swamp (for now).

I think I'm gonna go with pointing out your own signature as a piece of solid advice for ye (especially in response to your definition or suggested meaning for "Lucifer", which was way off):

~ Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt. ~ Abraham Lincoln

Proverbs 17:28

28 Even a fool who keeps silent will be considered wise,

And the one who seals his lips, discerning.

That's not my way of telling you to shut up, but the nonsense and inaccurate information you're spreading about "Lucifer" helps no one get closer to the truth of the matter, or other more important matters. The other part of your comment wasn't much more helpful either on that front.
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posted on Dec, 20 2018 @ 01:39 PM

originally posted by: Sublimecraft
This thread is proof that there is one individual that exists that is hated even more so than Trump - even though he didn't even exist in the minds of those triggered into vomit status by the mere mention of his name.

Yet nobody other than the one talking about a vomit button mentioned the name I assume you are referring to. The only 'name', if you want to call it that, that was mentioned up to your comment was "Lucifer" (also see previous comment for more information; oh yeah, and the name Trump of course). Unless you're including the video. And the name of his "God and Father" definitely isn't mentioned in either the thread nor the video of the OP. As if he's Voldemort or something...

"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ," (Eph 1:3a) "whose name alone is JEHOVAH". (Ps 83:18b, King James Bible)

I don't think Trump serves Jehovah nor are any of the self-professed "Christians" who voted for him or admire him interested in becoming a servant of Jehovah just like Jesus is. Acts 3:13a:

13 The God of Abraham and of Isaac and of Jacob, the God of our forefathers, has glorified his Servant, Jesus,...

Genesis 28:13 (American Standard Version)

And, behold, Jehovah stood above it, and said, I am Jehovah, the God of Abraham thy father, and the God of Isaac. The land whereon thou liest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed.

I think the mere notion of becoming a servant of Jehovah makes the hair stand up on the back of their necks triggering a rather strong aversion to "the mere mention of his name", using your words, but referring to another individual with his own personal name*. *:as clearly taught and mentioned approx. 7000 times in the Bible, talking about just the name "Jehovah" in honest translations regarding this subject. The most frequently mentioned name in the Bible. Not counting the numerous times a distinction is made or indicated between the 2 individuals named Jehovah and Jesus, one being the God and Father of the other and one being the Son and Servant of the other. And it isn't hard to figure out who is who, or should I say, which is which?

Declaring and Praising the Divine Name (KJV and other bible translations)

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