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posted on Dec, 7 2018 @ 09:05 AM
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originally posted by: DictionaryOfExcuses
am I high right now?

Glad i am not the only one....

Vodka & Coke mate. Totally smashed with a permanent smiley face stamped on my face.

@OP
Santa / Satan
Dressed in red / On Fire
Merchandise / Sell soul for Money
Watches little children all year / Watches all lost souls permanently
Descends down chimney / descends down into pit
Based in North Pole / UFO Nazi Technology in South Pole
edit on 7-12-2018 by Rapha because: addon




posted on Dec, 7 2018 @ 09:13 AM
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originally posted by: SprocketUK
a reply to: ignorant_ape


I thought this was going to be one of those "who would win in a fight" things


Now there's a Celebrity Deathmatch!



posted on Dec, 7 2018 @ 09:56 AM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

Nobody would argue the pagan roots of the tree, the pagan roots of the season, the solstice and all that.
Are you suggesting that Christians don’t celebrate, are you against Christians celebrating Christmas

We are sorry the Catholic Church stole the pagan story but are grateful to share the season with them, thanks ya all



posted on Dec, 7 2018 @ 10:15 AM
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a reply to: Raggedyman

I wasn't suggesting ill intent on anyone, just pointing out the roots.

I think honestly it's good when it's all said and done that society (for the most part) can all have a shared holiday that you can decide on a personal level how religious or lack there of you want to be about it.



posted on Dec, 7 2018 @ 10:33 AM
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Just rearrange the letters in Santa to get the deceiver's true name.

Santa is a social conditioning entity, our belief in a lie taught to us when young trains us that believing in lies is beneficial. Far from what Jesus was preaching.



posted on Dec, 7 2018 @ 11:38 AM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

Thank you, enjoy

Second line



posted on Dec, 7 2018 @ 11:51 AM
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They both share a surprising common affiliation with psychedelic mushrooms.



posted on Dec, 7 2018 @ 11:57 AM
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If Santa REALLY only brought toys on Christmas for children who had been good all year, he'd be clocking out and hitting the bar after a couple hours, max. No, Santa is an enabler and a big softy. He gives toys to even the most obnoxious little turds.



posted on Dec, 7 2018 @ 09:26 PM
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originally posted by: toms54



I know he's real. I saw him when I was a kid. And spoke to him.


Had you been good?



posted on Dec, 7 2018 @ 09:36 PM
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a reply to: gr8skott

Not good enough to get all I asked for. Just socks and underwear.



posted on Dec, 7 2018 @ 09:47 PM
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Well, having traveled much and seen alot, in my house it is not Santa that visits, but Saint Nicholas. I know that the saint once lived, I have visited one of his 2 tombs.

So while I can not confirm if Jesus is real, I can confirm that Saint Nicholas did indeed live.



posted on Dec, 10 2018 @ 04:58 AM
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originally posted by: usernameconspiracy
If Santa REALLY only brought toys on Christmas for children who had been good all year, he'd be clocking out and hitting the bar after a couple hours, max. No, Santa is an enabler and a big softy. He gives toys to even the most obnoxious little turds.


What, compared to Jebus? He's such a softer he (allegedly) gave his life for our sins. Talk about role over for your oppressor......

At least Santa charges alcohol and mince pies for his services.....



posted on Dec, 11 2018 @ 12:15 AM
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a reply to: ignorant_ape
I heard someone once refer to this way of arguing and thinking in the OP (or type of reaction*) as the Santa Syndrome. *: see Martin and Deidre Bobgan's way of describing this type of reaction in the article further below, that's what I'm talking about

Not surprising to me given his background and view of and possible behaviour regarding "the Christmas lie" (see end of comment for that quote and details), the person in the video apparently doesn't see the hypocrisy and danger of parents lying to their children* while professing to be Christians and mixing lies (darkness) with Christian or biblical truths (light) and possibly causing what he calls "Santa Syndrome" if one wants to use that term to describe what's being expressed in the OP (I don't agree with what the person in the video above proposes; but I do agree that doing what I just described has harmful effects on the minds of people who notice this hypocritical behaviour by self-professed "Christians", in terms of a loss of trust primarily and providing or even blindly guiding people towards an excuse to more easily dismiss claims about Christ or God as more of the same type of stuff as the claims about Santa Claus, the same as what Martin and Deidre Bobgan describe as "a child’s eye view" below; and come to think of it, thinking or arguing to or for oneself that way, is rather childish). *: or going along with those lies, playing along, condoning the behaviour, perpetuating or promoting the lies by singing or playing Christmas Carols as described further below, etc. Not warning against idolatry and its harmful effects, even sometimes arguing that what they're doing isn't idolatry, spreading false teachings about what is idolatry and what isn't.

Proverbs 12:22

22 Lying lips are detestable to Jehovah,

But those acting faithfully bring pleasure to him.


2 Corinthians 6:14,15

14 Do not become unevenly yoked* [Or “joined.”] with unbelievers. For what fellowship do righteousness and lawlessness have? Or what sharing does light have with darkness? 15 Further, what harmony is there between Christ and Beʹli·al?* [From a Hebrew word meaning “Good for Nothing.” A reference to Satan.] Or what does a believer* [Or “a faithful person.”] share in common* [Or “what share does a believer have.”] with an unbeliever?

Christmas—Why Is It Dangerous?

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Why Christmas Is So Dangerous

Some might feel that the celebration of Christmas is dangerous because it promotes a spirit of selfishness. ... Parents and authors Martin and Deidre Bobgan, point to another danger: “Many adults feed children dishonesties and distortions which eventually may lead to atheism. From a child’s eye view, if Santa told as truth is a lie, then maybe God told as truth also is a lie.”

Yet the most serious danger of celebrating Christmas is that it could lead to losing God’s favor. Why? There are a number of reasons. For example, Christmas promotes idolatry, something forbidden in the Bible. (1 John 5:21) This is openly practiced in front of many nativity scenes, such as in the Aracoeli church in Rome. What about the introduction of the heathen Christmas tree into many Protestant churches? Does this not smack of idolatry?

Furthermore, the celebration of Christmas has promoted the worship of Jesus in place of his Father, Jehovah God. This is another form of idolatry since the glorified Lord Jesus Christ is “the beginning of the creation by God.” (Revelation 3:14; see also Romans 1:25.) Carol-singing has served to entrench this wrong idea in billions of young hearts. One popular carol includes these words: “In the bleak mid-winter a stable-place sufficed the Lord God Almighty Jesus Christ.”

The fact is that Jesus never claimed to be God Almighty. Instead Jesus declared: “The Father is greater than I am.” (John 14:28) He directed all worship to his Father, saying: “It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.” (Matthew 4:10) Even after his resurrection, Jesus continued to direct worship to his heavenly Father.​—John 20:17.
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Matthew 15:7-9

You hypocrites, Isaiah aptly prophesied about you when he said: 8 ‘This people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far removed from me. 9 It is in vain that they keep worshipping me, for they teach commands of men as doctrines.’”

Quoting point 13 from the video below (actually starting at the end of point 12 at 9:51):

They are hypocrites because they fail to practice what they preach. For example, they preach "lying lips are an abomination onto the LORD" [Proverbs 12:22], yet every year they celebrate the Christmas lie and play carols that claim the Holy Bible says ... Jesus Christ was born on Christmas Day, Dec. 25th. It seems the only abominable lies* are those that are not religious. [*: in their eyes, if you consider the behaviour just described]


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