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posted on Dec, 7 2018 @ 09:27 AM
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You lot are too funny! I'm reminded of a frightened, angry 5 year old, screaming at the top of his lungs, trying to make things how he wants them when it just ain't that way, fella.


a reply to: okrian

Right on. Once upon a time a person could come here for well thought out, spirited - and sometimes very spirited - political debate from both sides of pretty much any subject imaginable. For the last few years coming here is about the same as going to storm front or brite bart or info wars or any other of the screaming, extremely limited coherent content sites available. Hardly worth the photons it takes to log in any more. Sad to see the decline of a once-great discussion venue.




posted on Dec, 7 2018 @ 11:26 AM
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Islam = LGBT or feminism
Islamphobia= Homophobia
I ain't even making that one up.

Populism = Conservative?


edit on 7-12-2018 by Specimen because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 7 2018 @ 12:40 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

You should hear me and my brother talk about politics, he'd probably call me a closet rightist since I disagree with him on so many issues.

I'd be preaching to the choir around here if I bashed the left all the time, that's why I choose to address the predominate delusion on these boards.



posted on Dec, 7 2018 @ 09:46 PM
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Nazi = Pretty much everyone
Racist = Pretty much everyone



posted on Dec, 7 2018 @ 11:18 PM
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I have been watching this for a bit, and it never ceases to amaze me how many tend to forget some of the things that the left has proposed and passed, that is not bad, and how many people tend to forget some things, and truths that are out there, until it affects them personally.

The first thing is that apparent is that the political parties, tend to flip on issues on a regular basis. One day one thing is good to one party, the next it is bad and the other side think it is good.

So lets look at some of those terms that the Op has pointed out:
Investing in the future is equated to Taxing the present.

While yes I do agree that taxes are too high, however, here is the trade off and things to consider. Programs like the Student Loan program does need to get assistance. If this country is going to succeed in the future, to have jobs, manufacturing, even some of the goals, require taxes. The roads are not going to repair themselves, and right now how is that space program going, without NASA sending any person into space. In fact the country has fallen behind in the space area. We require Russia to send US Astronauts into space, and charging the US. That is going to require money and taxes.

The Pro-choice: Funny how people tend to go right to the death of an unborn child. Yet here is the truth on that topic: when it comes to the right, the concern about the child that is not born is all there, however, when it comes to say raising taxes to provide for say affordable housing, food and medical assistance, then it is no. The entire argument there has been uneven with the right only trying to disguise it from what it really is, the control over women, to the point of violating the most fundamental of all rights, the right of privacy.

The undocumented worker. Well truth be told, we all are descended from illegal immigrants, the undocumented workers whose ancestors came here to find a better life. And what is never stated, is that often these very people who come here, do not get the best paying jobs, but take the jobs that no one wants, and do it well. While I do agree that the system is broken, but is it so wrong to fault others for trying to improve their life or their family? Are we so terrified of the other person that we would turn our backs or even deny a person the right to try to achieve the very same thing we are wanting to achieve?

The Asylum seeker: Funny how the Op tended to neglect the very history of the asylum laws, how that is was the very policies of the US and other countries that directly contributed to some of the most horrifying terrors of the 20th century, the holocaust. How when after World War II came out, how it was revealed that people fleeing for their very lives, were denied entry, and thus ended up dying at the hands of the NAZI’s and that the most vulnerable were turned away from the lack of a country willing to give them protection. It was out of horror and shame that the US denied such, that the asylum laws were put into place. And what is even worse, is that the policies that were done by the US are now coming to full circle and the people who are coming from the Latin American countries, seeking Asylum are the victims of those policies. The mess that the US created, is now at our doorsteps.

Public Housing: While it is true that the projects are horrible, but it is a noble idea, built to try to rectify the fact of slavery and then the Jim crow era. But it also sought to help the poor of the country. While it is not a perfect thing, it was a solution that helped many. However it was a trap that was designed to keep people dependent on the government, and in some areas, there are often not enough to ensure that enough people could afford to get out of the projects.

Minimum wage: While it is unskilled compensation, however, is having a living wage such a bad thing? Not everyone went to college, and many of the jobs that would require simple labor, should not be penalized for not going to higher education, where they were either unable to afford or get into higher education. The minimum wage is to ensure that people are paid a fair and decent wage in exchange for their labor. Don’t you think that they deserve to be paid for their work? And here again, there is history where people were not paid to do a job, or worse paid in script, where they were stuck in a job, unable to get out, as the job would start to charge them for everything. The best example of that would be from the song: 16 Tons. Where it was about was how a person was working, with no minimum wage and ended up in debt that his family would have to pick up.

Subsidized: While I am not a fan of food stamps, and do believe it is being abused, however, the idea, is that people, living in a modern country, should starve should be abhorrent to all others. Would you have this country go through the same thing that France did before its revolution, where even a loaf of bread appears to be a banquet. Children should not be starving or going hungry, is that what we want, to where some go hungry, and are not able to do well, all for the lack of proper nutrients to grow and achieve?

Democratic Socialism: How so many would equate that to being communism, all for the ideas do not appeal to those who are on the right. Yet the truth be told, how well has the right done to govern the country in the past 2 years? What major benefits to the common man out there is there? How well can a country survive, when there is a serious wage inequality that is steadily growing, where people are struggling to just survive and are often at a point where one disaster, or unexpected bill could cause them to need to declare bankruptcy? Is that any way to live? And funny how many tend to ignore that there have been socialist ideas that were implemented in the US that everyone likes, have become a staple, agree it is a good idea, but at the same time, would deny if it was brought up by the wrong party. Is Social Security such a bad idea, or medicare? How about the utilities, is that a bad thing or even say the roads we drive on? Is helping the disabled such a bad thing, or would it be kinder to just leave them out on the streets? How about helping the Veterans? What about if one needs a defense attorney, should we deny the very right to have such?

Common Sense gun control: How many guns have been confiscated? And what is more important, how many more people have to die? How many times has the people had to rise up and overthrow the government? Funny how of all of the rights out there, this one right, no one wants to state what is and is not protected by the constitution. The lines are drawn, however, those who want gun control, are gaining numbers faster than those who want it unlimited. The thing is that the survivors and families of the victims are no longer wanting hopes and prayers, they want action, and their numbers are growing every day, every time there is a mass shooting, the numbers increases. In short there will come a time when that number hits the tipping point, and once that happens, the question of if there is or is not will be answered and in short, it could result in the country seeing something it has not seen since 1933. The saddest thing of all, is that both sides of the argument have valid points, but neither side is willing to listen or consider those points.

Free speech: Both sides are guilty of what the Op has stated



posted on Dec, 8 2018 @ 04:53 PM
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originally posted by: JBIZZ
By wanting more socialism your're promoting the subsidizing/bailout of large corporations & devaluing of the dollar.


Socialism = you have no idea what socialism is but it's bad.



posted on Dec, 8 2018 @ 08:37 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Religious freedom - The freedom to practice any religion — except Christianity.

Constitution - An oppressive document designed to violate the rights of communists.

AR-15 - AR stands for Assault Rifle and 15 refers to the number of people it can kill with one shot.

Anarchy - Communism

Democracy - Communism

Socialism - Communism

War - Peace

Freedom - Slavery

Ignorance - Strength
edit on 2018128 by scolai because: Typo



posted on Dec, 9 2018 @ 10:55 AM
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Racist=normal thinking person.



posted on Dec, 9 2018 @ 10:59 AM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
Here's a good one:

Traitorous Anti-American Marxist Commie Pig = Anyone who doesn't get down on their knees and perform fellatio on Trump.

I think this idea can easily go the other way as well. I have a feeling that a taste of your own medicine won't taste too good and I will get a lot of hate even though you guys are the ones who gave me the idea.


Poster that claims to be unbiased but only ever shows up to attack one side=3NL1GHT3N3D1



posted on Dec, 9 2018 @ 11:00 AM
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originally posted by: Open_Minded Skeptic
You lot are too funny! I'm reminded of a frightened, angry 5 year old, screaming at the top of his lungs, trying to make things how he wants them when it just ain't that way, fella.


a reply to: okrian

Right on. Once upon a time a person could come here for well thought out, spirited - and sometimes very spirited - political debate from both sides of pretty much any subject imaginable. For the last few years coming here is about the same as going to storm front or brite bart or info wars or any other of the screaming, extremely limited coherent content sites available. Hardly worth the photons it takes to log in any more. Sad to see the decline of a once-great discussion venue.


You equal ATS with Stormfront? Egads you are stupid.



posted on Dec, 9 2018 @ 11:02 AM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: ketsuko

You should hear me and my brother talk about politics, he'd probably call me a closet rightist since I disagree with him on so many issues.

I'd be preaching to the choir around here if I bashed the left all the time, that's why I choose to address the predominate delusion on these boards.


That's the canned response of a leftist trying to portray themselves as a centrist.

Ain't nobody buying that garbage.



posted on Dec, 9 2018 @ 11:55 AM
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a reply to: sdcigarpig


So lets look at some of those terms that the Op has pointed out:

Yes, let's.


While yes I do agree that taxes are too high, however, here is the trade off and things to consider.

I agree. Taxes are necessary to maintain the infrastructure that supports our economy. I'll even go along with a semblance of the "free college" thinking, just not for everyone. For those who earn it, by studying hard, maintaining good grades, and working diligently toward a worthwhile goal, I would love to see Federal scholarships to fill the void.

Where I disagree with that is that not everyone is cut out for college. Those scholarships should also be good toward trade skills as well. Also, there has to be some "skin in the game" for the participants. Not everyone deserves to be in academia. That sounds like a pretty rough thing to say, but it's true. If someone can't give up the drugs and booze and crime of the inner cities, for instance, they do not deserve a college degree. Those degrees need to be kept special, or they become meaningless for everyone.

I realize that was only one program you refer to, but my point is that taxes can indeed be used for good, but not when the money is spent blindly.


The Pro-choice: Funny how people tend to go right to the death of an unborn child. Yet here is the truth on that topic: when it comes to the right, the concern about the child that is not born is all there, however, when it comes to say raising taxes to provide for say affordable housing, food and medical assistance, then it is no.

I could retort that the left's approach to the issue is to deny that the father has any feelings for the unborn child.

You are describing a complex issue that directly affects a wide range of cultural and moral tenets. To try and place it in the box of "you just want to control women" is just disingenuous and stifles any attempt at a resolution.


The undocumented worker. Well truth be told, we all are descended from illegal immigrants, the undocumented workers whose ancestors came here to find a better life. And what is never stated, is that often these very people who come here, do not get the best paying jobs, but take the jobs that no one wants, and do it well.

No, all immigrants are not illegal, nor are they undocumented. During the early years of the United States, there were no immigration laws, so no immigrant could break them. I am descended from many different ancestors, most of whom were immigrants... none were illegal immigrants. Your statement is completely false and misleading.

As to the jobs, yes, many do take the lower-paying jobs. We also have Americans who would take those jobs, but who cannot because it is illegal to do so for less than minimum wage. If one is already illegal, one has little concern over breaking additional laws.


The Asylum seeker: Funny how the Op tended to neglect the very history of the asylum laws, how that is was the very policies of the US and other countries that directly contributed to some of the most horrifying terrors of the 20th century, the holocaust.

That does not mean we should abandon border security completely. Asylum was created for those fleeing oppressive regimes, not for those wanting a better life. Better lives begin with honesty, and attempts to use asylum laws for a purpose they were not intended using dishonest tactics is not honesty. It is, in fact, the opposite and should not be condoned, much less encouraged.


Public Housing: While it is true that the projects are horrible, but it is a noble idea, built to try to rectify the fact of slavery and then the Jim crow era.

It is 2018, almost 2019. Slavery in the US ended 160 years ago. The days of Jim Crow are likewise long gone. We have had our first black President, who served two terms. Black folk re represented, if one is judging by skin color as you are, in every segment of society, and over-represented in some (sports for example). The slavery argument is a non-starter now. Worse, it is the only reason anyone even remembers to think about slavery or Jim Crow.

Public housing is a trap, and I support revamping it into a hand up instead of a lifetime of handouts.



Minimum wage: While it is unskilled compensation, however, is having a living wage such a bad thing?

That is an appeal to emotion, not to facts. Minimum wage has, in every single raise during my lifetime, resulted in inflation directly following it. The result is that those making minimum wage actually have less spending power after the raise than they had before it, even though they make more money. Of course, another unintended consequence is that too much increase in minimum wage, especially in a struggling economy, actually costs jobs and makes many of those people it was designed to help much worse off by making them unemployed.


Subsidized: While I am not a fan of food stamps, and do believe it is being abused, however, the idea, is that people, living in a modern country, should starve should be abhorrent to all others.

Who is calling for an end to food stamps? Certainly not me... however, I do believe that some reason should be used, such as felony records and drug use.


Democratic Socialism: How so many would equate that to being communism, all for the ideas do not appeal to those who are on the right.

Excessive socialism is indistinguishable from communism.

Some socialism is needed and good, and we have some. You mention examples all through your post. Food stamps, infrastructure, public housing, are all examples of socialism... the taking from the wealthy to subsidize the poorer. Communism is the taking from all to subsidize all, so when socialism reaches a certain point where the wealthy have no more to give, we will be under communism.

Capitalism is just as bad in the other extreme. We need a mixture of both capitalism and socialism; the argument is simply how much of each. I believe that capitalism works best most of the time, but socialism is needed to ensure a strong economy that is capable of not just helping the poor to survive, but helping them learn how to thrive without assistance.


Common Sense gun control: How many guns have been confiscated? And what is more important, how many more people have to die?

Fine. Change the Constitution.

Until then, do not advocate simply ignoring the laws. That is not going over well, in case you didn't notice.

TheRedneck



posted on Dec, 9 2018 @ 12:16 PM
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originally posted by: Carcharadon

You equal ATS with Stormfront? Egads you are stupid.


Thank you for proving my point.



posted on Dec, 9 2018 @ 06:29 PM
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But you can indeed polish that turd. This has been proven.
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No. This is a fallacy. You cannot polish a turd, you can only shoot it with a clear-coat. I've been led to believe that epoxy dips also work.

"Gee, what an unusual stick shift!"



posted on Dec, 9 2018 @ 11:19 PM
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Climate Change ---> Only mankind can cause it, and if you "believe" differently you are a "climate change denier..."



edit on 9-12-2018 by ElectricUniverse because: correct comment.



posted on Dec, 9 2018 @ 11:26 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

So says a person who subscribes to the most oppressive type of system that mankind has ever devised...
So says the same person who holds the same beliefs of oppressive socialist and communist dictatorships, which have murdered and imprisoned more people than all wars, including all World Wars, and all small conflicts combined...

But go ahead and try to blame the right for "your beliefs..."



posted on Dec, 9 2018 @ 11:29 PM
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Oh btw, maybe someone posted this already, but maybe not.

"Common sense gun control" ----> Ban the weapons used the least to kill less people, handguns have been used in more occasions to murder more people than AR-15s or any other "assault weapon"(except in wars of course), then claim you are doing it to save people/children, and you/the left don't want to ban all guns.

"AR-15" ---> fully automatic weapon...








edit on 9-12-2018 by ElectricUniverse because: add and correct comment.



posted on Dec, 9 2018 @ 11:40 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

MANkind is SEXIST!




posted on Dec, 9 2018 @ 11:42 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

MANkind --->toxic masculinity.




posted on Dec, 9 2018 @ 11:46 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

huMAN --->toxic masculinity.




edit on 9-12-2018 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss because: (no reason given)




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