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Devotion to Trump is based on emotional patterns most people grow out of by age five

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posted on Dec, 8 2018 @ 06:04 AM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Deetermined

originally posted by: JinMI
I know better than to lean on the words of hypocrite, political hacktivist psychologists.


He's not even a psychologist, he's a psychiatrist, which means he's a glorified drug pushing medical doctor.





You do understand a psychiatrist has both a medical degree and psychology degree, it takes 17 years minimum to become a psychiatrist.


Nope. It only takes a medical degree and a 4 - 5 year residency in psychiatry. While you have to have a four year degree to enter a medical program, it is not a requirement to have a degree in psychology, although certain science classes are required.


Undergraduate Education
While many medical schools require only three years of undergraduate education, most admitted students have completed at least a 4-year bachelor's degree program. You can choose any major, including psychology, but you must have completed prerequisite coursework in chemistry, biology, physics and organic chemistry. Coursework in epidemiology, anthropology, statistics and ethics are also looked favorably upon by medical school admissions departments.

Medical School
Your first two years of medical school will consist mostly of coursework focusing on the sciences and the systems of the human body. You'll take classes in anatomy, embryology, biochemistry, psychology and clinical medicine, among other areas. In your last two years of medical school, you'll receive more hands-on training with physicians in clinical settings. During your fourth year, you'll participate in elective rotations and explore areas such as pediatric neurology or gerontology. Many medical students interested in becoming psychiatrists also find a psychiatric mentor during their medical studies.


learn.org...


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posted on Dec, 8 2018 @ 08:47 AM
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a reply to: C0bzz

I came to this thread through utter disbelief at how lost people are and if you wish to assign this with those that respect Trump for his ideals, is utter lost in translation.

When Obama was in office, a percentage of his supports talked about him like he was the holy grail of what a president should be, same could be said about George Bush, same could be said about Clinton, Reagan, etc.

Fact of the matter is, before Trump this was never nationalised and sensationalised on TV as it is now and clearly other powers that be are instigating and pumping money into the 'name and shaming' circus they are providing everywhere. I know this is the case as before Trump got into office I knew people who earned money to protest against Trump and they got paid like a salarised job per month.So let's not act like this is all made up, it is very real. The attack on Trump is very real.

What is also odd is how 'fake news' has been attached to Trump. Fake news is a thing, everyone knows this, regardless of Trump fake news has always been the case. Each news station lies and twists facts, the news stations are owned by billionaire businessmen and they control what we hear. If you or anyone in this world is going to deny this, then truly, I am worried for the welfare of our future.

People that wish to follow and respect Trump is through sheer reason that he is making things happen and has achieved many impressive achievements already. These far out-weight Bush or Obama, yet you nor anyone will admit this.

So to go back to me originally saying my 'disbelief' is that now there is a triple psychological loop, where you think you have a point to make for saying those that follow Trump are doing so through mental instability, yet the lies everyone is fed about Trump is a psychological instability, that you think is stable, then comment on true facts to be unstable and then allow those that are unstable that hate not being in control as stable. I mean really, WTF!

I give up......

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posted on Dec, 8 2018 @ 11:16 AM
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originally posted by: BlackProject

What is also odd is how 'fake news' has been attached to Trump.


How is that odd? He says it in every speech, and it's in probably 90% of his tweets.



posted on Dec, 8 2018 @ 11:40 AM
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originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: BlackProject

What is also odd is how 'fake news' has been attached to Trump.


How is that odd? He says it in every speech, and it's in probably 90% of his tweets.


Now it has become something he himself has absorbed to saying because he has been labelled with this so many times, he has inherited this saying. He did not start off saying this, its that the 'fake news' phrase has gathered some ground as he became president and rightfully so, now from his perspective, he see's without the veil that we are clouded with. As he has access to many realities now, that he would have never known and yet cannot divulge this to the public.

So the only thing he can utter now, to agree with the large percentage of people that know that the news lies, is 'fake news'.



posted on Dec, 8 2018 @ 01:41 PM
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I’m screenshotting this OP.

When we have another democratic president and everyone falls to his feet crying because he “saved us” from Trump, I’m going to post this again.

We literally just had 8 years of people visciously defending Obama. Let us have this one.



posted on Dec, 8 2018 @ 02:24 PM
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originally posted by: scolai
I’m screenshotting this OP.

When we have another democratic president and everyone falls to his feet crying because he “saved us” from Trump, I’m going to post this again.

We literally just had 8 years of people visciously defending Obama. Let us have this one.


Sounds like cause to act the same way for 8 years, and then they get it do it "in return" for 8 years, and then you get to do it "in return" for 8 years, and then you die.




posted on Dec, 8 2018 @ 02:38 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

originally posted by: scolai
I’m screenshotting this OP.

When we have another democratic president and everyone falls to his feet crying because he “saved us” from Trump, I’m going to post this again.

We literally just had 8 years of people visciously defending Obama. Let us have this one.


Sounds like cause to act the same way for 8 years, and then they get it do it "in return" for 8 years, and then you get to do it "in return" for 8 years, and then you die.





Ah yes but for 8 years you get to stick it to the other team so it's all good...



posted on Dec, 8 2018 @ 04:21 PM
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Have you evaluated the intellectual prowess of the psychiatrist who makes these claims? He is easily influenced by those that bolster his ideas. He hurls insults and demeans anyone who disagrees with his own philosophy.
To answer your question, I am an adult. I see an angry child lashing out at me, insulting me, trying to hurt me and demean me, because the child didn't get his way. Grow up!



posted on Dec, 20 2018 @ 10:28 AM
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@ angeldoll

I was talking about the mentality of those who don't like Trump and decided to project their own conscious feelings onto those who support Trump.



posted on Dec, 20 2018 @ 11:33 AM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
It truly is amazing how much real estate trump owns in some peoples heads.
Literally saying his supporters have the minds of five year olds.
Keep em coming, its fascinating.

Trump 2020!


So much so that this same poster couldn't control their compulsion to make ANOTHER mud pit thread on this exact same subject!. Classic!



posted on Dec, 20 2018 @ 01:12 PM
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Seems like his greatest achievement so far is gonna be killling the Obama economy. Care to list the so called achievements this loser has made? Well besides screwing up healthcare for millions upon millions of people? Anyone with half a brain knew this grifter was bad news from the beggining, and all us tried to warn the dim witted magat’s out there. a reply to: BlackProject


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posted on Dec, 20 2018 @ 01:50 PM
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a reply to: C0bzz
Vietnam? How old are you? It was Eisenhower who sent advisers. Kennedy, Democrat, sent more but had second thoughts. Kennedy gets assassinated and Johnson escalates it beyond belief. It was Nixon who in 1969 went into Cambodia but eventually started de-escalation. So in reality it was a Republican that ended it. If you want to make this Republican over Democrat thing don't as you are wrong.



posted on Dec, 20 2018 @ 02:11 PM
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Bullying people with name-calling only makes them dig in their heels. Especially when they know it language for the purpose of bullying regardless is the substance is right or wrong. Bullying changes the subject into a defence mode and you should prepare for a merciless counter-attack that has nothing to do with your original intent or goal.



posted on Dec, 20 2018 @ 03:27 PM
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The voting statistics seem to disagree with the title of this thread, seeing that you have to be 18 to be eligible to vote for Trump and the word "most" seems to imply a bit more than an approx. 50/50 split in votes. Not considering those who don't vote for a moment to make it a bit simpler. I understand technically "most" can be interpreted as only slightly more than the rest, but then you might as well enter into the territory of discussing whether a vote for Trump counts as "devotion to Trump ".

It just feels like a lot of people haven't grown out of whatever emotional patterns caused them to vote for Trump.
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posted on Dec, 20 2018 @ 03:39 PM
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a reply to: C0bzz

If were going to use hyperbole like 'absolutely true' and 'scientifically proven"

Perhaps you might start with some established proof that describes your own behavior?



In reality they are emotionally needy. Weak. Fragile. And terrified of losing their power. The question is to the reader. Are you a 5 year old or are you an adult?

Try this:
What is PROJECTION and how does it work?




This is absolutely true.

Try this:
The comfort of absolute thinking




Well, it turns out that Trump supporters are those who are least grounded in their belief systems. Instead they will follow Daddy, I mean Trump, wherever he goes and whatever he says, regardless of whether it is right or wrong. They are yes-men and kiss-asses.

Try this:
Attacking other's beliefs helps me forget my own

The danger of Illusory Superiority Complex

Moral superiority disorders
PAPER: University of London

The most irrational self-enhancing bias of all

I wrote this because I care. Your energy is being spent avoiding something difficult in your own life, I've been there.

It's like the Dutch Proverb:
"Wat je zegt ben jezelf, met je kop door de helft"
(You are what you say they are)

Go have some Pop-Tarts and watch Sanford and Son... Maybe some pinball?

edit on 20-12-2018 by LedermanStudio because: added spaces



posted on Dec, 20 2018 @ 03:52 PM
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originally posted by: SprocketUK
devotion to any political figure (or party) is just dumb.
You have to vote for someone though, ...

Well, you don't necessarily have to act "dumb" and then possibly justifying the behaviour to yourself by arguing that voting for someone isn't the same as "devotion"; just in an effort to possibly comply with the arguments made by those who want you to vote and possibly ridicule or speak negatively of those who don't (or complying with popular opinion on the the subject of whether or not to vote, to avoid being seen as weird or uncaring for example, or not contributing to your society or community, or any other argument that is made against the choice not to vote for some political figure or party). As a wise woman who survived the holocaust once said:

"You cannot force anybody who doesn't want to, that doesn't exist." At 11:05 - 11:34 below:

There's another way to contribute:

First Amendment Champions
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posted on Dec, 20 2018 @ 04:36 PM
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-yawn-

Did OP discuss how liberals automatically associate any negative feedback with the political opposition they dislike?

Like, if I were to call OP dumbass, OP is more likely to assume, I support the opposing political party, even though my opinion that OP is a dumbass, is completely separate from a political argument, and has to do with OP's life choices.



posted on Dec, 20 2018 @ 04:53 PM
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Interesting.

You could replace Trumps name with Clinton or Sanders and it would still work. I agree with that article, except minus the bias of mentioning only blind followers of Trump. If it were honestly written it would have been broader and described all people who blindly follow political leaders no matter what they do.

People who fully matured emotionally with good critical thinking skills tend to fall into the Independent / Moderate camp. They make decisions based on issues and performance and ignore talking points and partisan propaganda.

Intelligence needs to be separated from this as a person can have a genius IQ and be very immature. A person can be a genius and still willingly follow a leader like Hitler, Mao or Stalin.

The presenter of this theory has also not progressed fully emotionally, since they are blindly in the tank for people as bad or worse than Trump.



posted on Dec, 20 2018 @ 04:59 PM
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originally posted by: onthedownlow
Have you evaluated the intellectual prowess of the psychiatrist who makes these claims? ...
To answer your question, I am an adult. I see an angry child lashing out at me, insulting me, trying to hurt me and demean me, because the child didn't get his way. Grow up!

Hmmm, if you're still talking about the psychiatrist in the OP(ost) rather than the OP(oster), I'm seeing someone catering to the market he's targeting, telling them what they want to hear, tickling their ears. And since he's quite clever and good at it (much like Trump but with a different style), I'd say his intellectual prowess in that field is quite developed. But that's not what you were asking about and you weren't asking me. Then again, who wants to waste their time on figuring out who's acting more childish here.

2 Timothy 4:3,4

3 For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the wholesome* [Or “healthful; beneficial.”] teaching, but according to their own desires, they will surround themselves with teachers to have their ears tickled.* [Or “to tell them what they want to hear.”] 4 They will turn away from listening to the truth and give attention to false stories.
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posted on Dec, 20 2018 @ 05:28 PM
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originally posted by: whereislogic


It just feels like a lot of people haven't grown out of whatever emotional patterns caused them to vote for Trump.


I think it is more along the lines of the emotional patterns causing people to still freak out that Trump actually won. When we look at it Trump winning or losing was not very emotional for the right, but when the left had been told for a year that Hillary had pretty much a 100% chance to win and she didn't we are talking about a high level of shock.

The reality was that 28% of the people voted for Hillary and 27% of the people voted for Trump so that leaves 47% non-vote for either. When we look at Trump's 27% a good percentage of that was a vote for "anyone but Hillary" another good percentage was for the fact he was the only republican to vote for...all this leaves an extremely small percentage of the population in the bucket of actually being Trumpisters.



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