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Is San Francisco worse than a third world country ?

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posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 09:10 PM
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www.businessinsider.com...< br />


UN expert: San Francisco’s homelessness crisis is a human rights violation and suggests ‘a cruelty that is unsurpassed’


I've never been to San Francisco so I wouldn't know, but that statement caught my eye, and I read the article.
I've enjoyed Business Insider before, but I have to say that this article is a bigger piece of crap than what is on San Francisco's streets!

Here are some of the key pieces from this article:



But first, she said, people have to understand that housing isn't a commodity — it's a human right.




"It's not to say that we want to bring down capitalism," Farha said. Instead, she said, the human rights obligation lies with the government, which is responsible for regulating private actors.




Even so, she said, companies with massive amounts of wealth have a responsibility to share it.


Homelessness has been around a long time. I remember when Cabrini Green was a housing project on Chicago's South side. Let's just say that housing really didn't help those people, and I would have probably preferred homelessness to living there. I think there is a mental illness aspect of homelessness but that's another topic.

San Francisco is also know to be as liberal as it gets when it comes to cities. So riddle me this, every single thing that Liberals supposedly believe in is happening in the the exact opposite way in San Francisco.

For example:
Safety net for people
Government has the right to use eminent domain
Support legal immigration
Government must protect citizens from the greed of big business

The problem is those in San Francisco/Liberals want other people to do those things, but not with THEIR money, businesses and property!

www.nytimes.com...


Troubles in San Francisco Push Some Voters to Think Republican




posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 09:15 PM
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Last time I was in SF there were entire streets lined with homeless people mostly youth and hippy hill was packed

That was ten years ago I'm sure its gotten far worse



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 09:17 PM
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posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 09:23 PM
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After reading just the thread title I have the answer.

Yes, yes it is.

The vast majority of the country does not have to live in such conditions, while the the majority of the third world possibly doesn't.

The end.

San Fran is a #hole.



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 09:23 PM
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a reply to: FlukeSkywalker




Are you robot? A monster? Demon?


I don't consider myself any of those things. As an American I feel like the kind of sentiments written in that article is seeping everywhere. It is highlighted San Francisco but I bet this could be any American city

Rich people are evil and must give money to poor innocent people. The people in this country that work the hardest must share share share..




companies with massive amounts of wealth have a responsibility to share it.


The main thing I am against is living in a socialist or communist country, which is where we are headed.

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posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 09:25 PM
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a reply to: JAGStorm

The of being socialist or conmunist will be removed by automation



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 09:25 PM
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originally posted by: FlukeSkywalker
Are you robot? A monster? Demon?

...snipped...



Whaaaa?

So when you post something about a place or country, you have to have been there personally so you can talk about it?

Or if something interests you but you haven't seen it personally, you cannot speak about the topic?

As for the rest of your ramble... vitamin deficiency or drug dependency?

To the topic, I used to go to SF a lot as a kid in the late 70's, early 80's.

Awesome place... of course California was Republican then.

I visited some family members there in 2016 and didn't even recognize the place.

We drove around old neighborhoods I used to know... they looked a little worse than some places I've seen in Afghanistan.

The gated communities were probably pretty, but I couldn't go there...

So yes, SF is now a shining example of Progressivism in action.

Making America a third world country.


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posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 09:27 PM
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a reply to: JAGStorm

I don't know. San Fran is pretty whacko, but try telling my landlady that housing is a right instead of a commodity.



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 09:28 PM
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posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 09:29 PM
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posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 09:32 PM
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San Fran is awesome, cali is the best state in the us.

Its totally normal for people making deep six figures, working at a multi billion dollar company, to literally step over piles of # and needles to walk into work.

To say otherwise is just being jealous of your probably clean and relative crime free rural environment.



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 09:32 PM
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The answer is yes.

On one hand you have staggering opulence. On the other abject poverty. And within a few hundred yards of each other.

Homeless, no visible means of support, no income, no hope, nothing. They answered the call of the liberals who sought them out for their votes. Now with the elections over its every man for himself. See you in four years, if you are still alive. And don't forget - vote democrat.

Human waste collecting on sidewalks and curbs is worse than the open sewers of what we typically think of as third world countries. Why is it worse? At least the open sewers are running somewhere. The only place this waste has to go is into a storm sewer - not meant for biological hazard material. Think about it. One visible blotch of human waste in any workplace is considered a bio-hazard which needs to be roped off, drains blocked, cleaned by people wearing the appropriate safety gear, using approved chemicals, all waste to be collected in clearly marked bio-hazard bags and disposed of properly per state regulation or face severe penalties including the loss of your business license until the area is properly cleaned. Now apply that to an entire city. Someone needs to get their (and everyone elses) # together.



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 09:33 PM
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Unfortunately we have mental problems right here on ATS...... SF sux



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 09:35 PM
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Has SF made any progress in getting people to stop crapping all over the streets?



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 09:35 PM
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originally posted by: JAGStorm
www.businessinsider.com...< br />


UN expert: San Francisco’s homelessness crisis is a human rights violation and suggests ‘a cruelty that is unsurpassed’


I've never been to San Francisco so I wouldn't know, but that statement caught my eye, and I read the article.
I've enjoyed Business Insider before, but I have to say that this article is a bigger piece of crap than what is on San Francisco's streets!

Here are some of the key pieces from this article:



But first, she said, people have to understand that housing isn't a commodity — it's a human right.




"It's not to say that we want to bring down capitalism," Farha said. Instead, she said, the human rights obligation lies with the government, which is responsible for regulating private actors.




Even so, she said, companies with massive amounts of wealth have a responsibility to share it.


Homelessness has been around a long time. I remember when Cabrini Green was a housing project on Chicago's South side. Let's just say that housing really didn't help those people, and I would have probably preferred homelessness to living there. I think there is a mental illness aspect of homelessness but that's another topic.

San Francisco is also know to be as liberal as it gets when it comes to cities. So riddle me this, every single thing that Liberals supposedly believe in is happening in the the exact opposite way in San Francisco.

For example:
Safety net for people
Government has the right to use eminent domain
Support legal immigration
Government must protect citizens from the greed of big business

The problem is those in San Francisco/Liberals want other people to do those things, but not with THEIR money, businesses and property!

www.nytimes.com...


Troubles in San Francisco Push Some Voters to Think Republican






San Fransicko is a beautiful city. It is also one of, if not the most, expensive cities in the world. It is on a peninsula so land is at a premium.

The reason it is so expensive is not only because of a shortage of land, but zoning and other regulations exacerbate the situation. Rent control. Can't build a lot of high rises. Affordable housing set asides. All these types of liberal inspired regulations do the opposite of their intentions by increasing the cost of living.

In a free market, when demand out strips supply prices will rise. San Fran also attracts a lot of highly paid tech, finance, and legal professionals which makes it even more expensive.

With all that said, the homeless situation in SF has ZERO to do with cost of living / housing affordability. The vast majority of the bums are drug addicts. They are in SF because of the weather and liberal attitudes toward their lifestyles. No amount of income redistribution schemes is going to get some heroine addicted loser off the streets.



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 09:36 PM
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originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan
Has SF made any progress in getting people to stop crapping all over the streets?


Yes, they have opened up some government jobs(payed by taxpayers) to remove the feces periodically from the street. I hear it pays the equivalent of what most doctors or lawyers in my area make.

Cali has this #, no pun intended, figured out.
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posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 09:38 PM
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a reply to: JAGStorm

There are people with homes who suffer from mental illness, too.

... but, we don't have shoulder any responsibility for it if they are sick and it's all their own fault.



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 09:39 PM
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"Any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered by the word no."



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 09:40 PM
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posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 09:45 PM
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originally posted by: MisterSpock
San Fran is awesome, cali is the best state in the us.

Its totally normal for people making deep six figures, working at a multi billion dollar company, to literally step over piles of # and needles to walk into work.

To say otherwise is just being jealous of your probably clean and relative crime free rural environment.


There is a doo doo map now! You can avoid the really turdy places now!
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