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France protests: Will the environment be the true victim of the fuel-tax riots?

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posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 08:58 PM
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France protests: Will the environment be the true victim of the fuel-tax riots?


That so-called carbon tax had already increased diesel by 7.6 cents per litre and petrol by 3.9 cents in the last year, and it was due to rise again in January. Yet as the rage over the added expense spilled into the cities and on to front pages, the original reason for the increase became somewhat lost.


The Usual Crap and Fear Mongering by the Mainstream News Media.



In comparison, 91% of British people believe climate change is partially caused by human activity, and just 66% believe the impact will be negative. Meanwhile, a report by the University of Michigan's Center for Local, State, and Urban Policy notes only 60% of Americans believe climate change is happening and humans are playing a part.





France's fuel tax aims to encourage motorists to use their cars less or switch to electric versions. The tax would also raise €34bn ($39bn; £30bn), although according to news agency Reuters, just €7.2bn will go towards the environment.




posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 09:01 PM
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Austerity measures with no economic solutsions certainly isn't

Here is a huge tax raise oh but no further investment into alternatives just deal with it losers

This is like a movie where they show riots and protest and food shortages right before the big event



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 09:01 PM
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Basically BBC and Mainstream News Media is literally being agaisnt the protesters and going as far as by attacking the protesters by suggesting that the poor environment will be the true victim.

Never mind the ever growing high fuel costs that are impacting the poor, according to BBC article, just switch to electric and ignore the other damages which has being caused by the Carbon tax.


Here we have the BBC once again going agaisnt the people. While still pushing their usual fear mongering and doom porn of global warming.



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 09:02 PM
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People will always be the true victims of the Globalist Elites and their scam to use the environment as an excuse to enrich themselves. At least the people of France are wising up to the scam of these evil elite.



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 09:03 PM
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Change is hard. People don't like to change until it becomes absolutely necessary.

Sometimes, it's too late by then, and/or too expensive.


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posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 09:04 PM
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a reply to: Metallicus

Isn't that why the people have a government to put their wealth and power in check?



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 09:06 PM
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The problem with these taxes is that they only hurt the poor. These days that's anyone making $100,000 or less a year US dollars. That's most of us common folks. I would love to buy an electric motorcycle, a Tesla, install a charging station at my house etc...but I can't afford any of that. My Truck is 20 years old.

The other problem is that Man is causing global warming, but the elites in government can only think to tax us as a solution. That's not a solution. I love change, the problem is affording change. I can't afford to change right now.

The third problem is that most of you on here are so focused on the carbon tax...which is a problem, that you refuse to believe the scientists telling you that global warming is caused by man.
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posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 09:08 PM
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a reply to: amazing

Yeah.
Oil is cheap.


Too cheap.



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 09:09 PM
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Raising the taxes hurts the people and does nothing for the environment.



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 09:09 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: amazing

Yeah.
Oil is cheap.


Too cheap.


I agree, but taxes are high...too high. What's the solution?



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 09:11 PM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

It depends upon who is being taxed and how those taxes are utilized.

But how about a different model? Cap and trade seems to have been effective with SO2 reduction, without raising consumer prices.
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posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 09:12 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Bluntone22

It depends upon who is being taxed.

But how about a different model? Cap and trade seems to have been effective with SO2 reduction, without raising consumer prices.


Then that's a good measure. Any measure that hurts the common citizen is bad...taxes.



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 09:13 PM
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a reply to: Phage

Aside from driving and plastic products what's a proper scalable solution?



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 09:14 PM
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Whatever "emissions" they thought could be reduced is already shot in the ass from all the fires started with liquid fuel 😆

At least people can keep the money now instead of paying it out to CO2 con artists 😎🚬💨



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 09:15 PM
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a reply to: amazing
*deep voice with heavy reverb*
In a perfect world...

it is industrial users and producers of fossil fuels who pay the taxes. They will, by necessity, pass those costs onto the consumer. But, in that world, the taxes collected are returned to the consumer via tax rebates and/or credits.



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 09:15 PM
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originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: Phage

Aside from driving and plastic products what's a proper scalable solution?


There are lots, including making it easier for people to go solar. Many states put barriers in place. Next is making it easier for companies to sell electric cars...with models, Like tesla, that don't conform to the current dealership model. That's two right there.



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 09:16 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: amazing
*deep voice with heavy reverb*
In a perfect world...

it is industrial users and producers of fossil fuels who pay the taxes. They will, by necessity, pass those costs onto the consumer. But, in that world, the taxes collected are returned to the consumer via tax rebates and/or credits.



Yeah rebates and credits never work the way their supposed to. As it stands what am I supposed to do with a 20 year old truck besides work more jobs.



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 09:16 PM
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a reply to: amazing

Yeah, well.

electrek.co...



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 09:17 PM
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a reply to: Phage

I was never impressed with cap and trade.
There are better solutions to cut fuels consumption.

I'll give you a perfect example.
Coal in Virginia is high in sulfer content.
Montana coal is much lower.

We ship Montana coal east and Virginia coal west to lower the eastern powerplants sulfur output and raise the western ones.
All that diesel wasted shipping coal around for stupid politics.



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 09:18 PM
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As it stands what am I supposed to do with a 20 year old truck besides work more jobs.

Keep it running as long and as well as you can.

Until you win the lottery. But alternatives are getting more "affordable."



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