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Rand Paul Rages: "The Deep State Is Trying To Run Congress"

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posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 05:21 AM
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originally posted by: Bloodworth
Give trump another four years and let him go after the deep state.

He main running point next election should be to go after the deep state


He said he would do that this time around.

Trump needs to grow a pair. Sure, he punches back on Twitter, but they are just words.

He should fire every single member of the administration appointed under Obama, fire Mueller, shut down the CIA, direct the AG to open a special counsel into criminal activity of Obama, Hillary and Obama's DoJ, FBI and CIA leadership teams, withdraw all troops from the ME and use the military to build the border wall. He should then close the southern border and shut down immigration completely (to ZERO) until Congress agree a new Immigration bill.

Time is running out for him to take on the deep state - right now it's the 8th round, and he is way behind on points. He needs a knockout.
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posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 07:33 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth

Only problem with that plan is that he would be the fastest impeached “and removed” POTUS in US history. I do think he could get away with removing all, or most, of the moles in the administration, as any future POTUS should do immediately upon taking office. As we’ve seen though, they run multiple layers deep (think FBI). I’m sure there are still second, third, and fourth tier plus moles in the NSA and CIA just like there were (probably still are) in the FBI. And they are likely still the ones disrupting Trumps attempts to make the US successful.

The reach of the men and women from those imaginary secret societies seem to run very deep indeed!

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posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 08:14 AM
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a reply to: Grambler


Didn't Bush take us to war without congressional approval?

The intelligence agency in the country is its own government, they work out site federal regulations and oversight and sometimes their actions are back by a president. Just look at the Iran–Contra affair in the 80's (I have been reading about). CIA more than likely trafficking Contra rebel’s coc aine into the U.S. to support their rebellion. Did the President (RR) and VP (GHB) know what was going on, a high probability. Did it start a huge drug problem in the U.S. that continues to day in some form or fashion you bet.

Also, I feel Rand Paul is a pale comparison to his Father. He is arrogant and if he was invited to the briefing then his statement would be much different.

Should the intelligence agencies be like this, no, but they have always been this way and no senator or even a president will be able to change it. They are the equivalent of the Illuminati.



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 09:40 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth



He should fire every single member of the administration appointed under Obama, fire Mueller, shut down the CIA, direct the AG to open a special counsel into criminal activity of Obama, Hillary and Obama's DoJ, FBI and CIA leadership teams, withdraw all troops from the ME and use the military to build the border wall. He should then close the southern border and shut down immigration completely (to ZERO) until Congress agree a new Immigration bill.

You must want Trump to get assassinated.

Besides, have you thought of the implications of following your chain of thought? Let's just fire everyone and hire an entirely new crew. Sounds like the indiscriminate forced resignation of anyone not sharing your ideology (Not Good). If in fact that is what your wish, you have to be more subtle than that!

I'm all for draining the swamp. Except it has to be done methodically while simultaneously showing proof for their dismissal. These are top dogs your trying to get rid of.

Don't forget, knowing they are corrupt is substantially different than proving that they are!

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posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 09:45 AM
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a reply to: Grambler

The more I think about it the more I'm convinced the entire system itself is doomed. It started out as a great idea, a genius idea even... but has been bastardized, corrupted, sold out, and intentionally subverted/infringed upon and left us with the quasi-legal farce we have today

Frankly, "repeal and replace" is the only real solution moving forward IMO.

...a solution where we actually listen to our forefathers and ensure political partisan "democracy" is impossible (much like was intended)

Not our fault that bastards and traitors have "interpreted" and sold out our Constitutional rights at every turn. Usually in the name of some coward(s) crying for safety or some monied interests overruling the rest of us.

I only hope these treasonous bastards end up with an asterisk by their name in the history books. Shortly before the trap door open up.

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posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 12:10 PM
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The Deep State already runs Congress, and has for decades.



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 12:13 PM
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Didn't Bush take us to war without congressional approval?


Nope. Used the loophole of participating in a UN sanctioned coalition. You are equating military action and obligations, with a declared war. They are two different things. (though maybe shouldn't be).
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posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 12:37 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Bloodworth
Give trump another four years and let him go after the deep state.

He main running point next election should be to go after the deep state


He said he would do that this time around.

Trump needs to grow a pair. Sure, he punches back on Twitter, but they are just words.

He should fire every single member of the administration appointed under Obama, fire Mueller, shut down the CIA, direct the AG to open a special counsel into criminal activity of Obama, Hillary and Obama's DoJ, FBI and CIA leadership teams, withdraw all troops from the ME and use the military to build the border wall. He should then close the southern border and shut down immigration completely (to ZERO) until Congress agree a new Immigration bill.

Time is running out for him to take on the deep state - right now it's the 8th round, and he is way behind on points. He needs a knockout.


That was a fair analysis.
Trump is definitely trying and I think it shows exactly how powerful the deep state are.

From the level of opposition trump is receiving its remarkable he is still in the fight.

You have people in the FBI, CIA, media, IRS, Facebook, Google, Twitter and YouTube who will use their positions of power for political gains.

The majority of the country is on the same page as trump and when the people start to see it's only a small group of global elitist pushing their agenda. They will revolt.

Like France the leaders are completely deaf to the needs and demands of their citizens.



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 12:40 PM
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Lol, didn’t you hear. Iq45 and faux news said there was no link. Why don’t you believe them? a reply to: Grambler



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 01:10 PM
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a reply to: UKTruth

The sad part is I think he would but he can't. Ain't that a bitch. Anytime he comes out swinging a 'judge' in a 'resistance' district files a motion to stop whatever he is doing.

The opposite used to happen. Things were signed and NO ONE noticed unless they watched C-Span 24/7.

Trump, the non-politician, has gotten more done since he was in office than any other modern day POTUS.

How many times to Hollywood and (Insert major pop/rap star) stop by for gala after gala after party after dinner. Do not see that happening anymore. He is running it like a business instead of a lobbying firm. That is all the White House has been since 92. A huge lobbying firm.

That money is drying up and there is already legislation from Trump not allowing those who serve/work in government to follow special rules regarding lobbying including bans.

Deep State was funded very very well by the government and that is changing.



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 01:13 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

We've allowed organizations we know to be corrupt, organizations which have committed verifiable crimes against other countries as well as citizens and residents of the US, to make their own rules. Very few, if any, elected officials have had the guts to do what Senator Paul is doing here. How can we be considered a nation under the rule of law when we allow the most powerful organizations on the planet to continuously violate the law?



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 01:50 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

Gina Haspel, the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (D/CIA) was appointed by President Trump and reports directly to the Director of National Intelligence (DNI).

Dan Coats, the Director of National Intelligence, was appointed by President Trump, serves at the President's pleasure as his Principle Intelligence Adviser and is completely subject to the authority, direction, and control of the President of the United States.

If President Trump wanted Gina Haspel to brief congress on the Kashogi murder, he could have directed her to.
Ditto for her unwillingness to brief the entirety of congress.

If the "deep state" is what Senator Paul describes, it reports to President Trump.

That might not be a convenient fact for given world-views or rhetoric, but it is a fact all the same.




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posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 05:35 PM
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a reply to: TobyFlenderson

Good point. But it is due to it being America. When was the last time Americans really protested anything other then someone being killed by law enforcement.

If people are going to say they do with the ballot then they need to figure out that they are poor at that method.
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posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 08:19 PM
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a reply to: Grambler




"The Deep State Is Trying To Run Congress"


Trying? LMFAO!

They've been running the congress since donkey years!




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But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education SUCKS, and it’s the same reason it will never, ever, EVER be fixed.

It’s never going to get any better, don’t look for it, be happy with what you’ve got.

Because the owners, the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the BIG owners! The Wealthy… the REAL owners! The big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions.

Forget the politicians. They are irrelevant. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice! You have OWNERS! They OWN YOU. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought, and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies, so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls.

They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want:

They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests.

Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table and think about how badly they’re getting f**ked by a system that threw them overboard 30 f**kin years ago. They don’t want that!

You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers, people who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork. And just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly #ti jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you sooner or later cause they own this f**kin place! It's a big club, and you ain’t in it! You, and I, are not in the big club.

By the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head with their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table has tilted folks. The game is rigged and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care! Good honest hard-working people; white collar, blue collar it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on. Good honest hard-working people continue, these are people of modest means, continue to elect these rich cock suckers who don’t give a # about you….they don’t give a f**k about you… they don’t give a F**K about you.

They don’t care about you at all… at all… AT ALL. And nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. Thats what the owners count on. The fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dic-k thats being jammed up their assh0les everyday, because the owners of this country know the truth.

It's called the American Dream,because you have to be asleep to believe it.



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 08:26 PM
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a reply to: mekhanics
American Dream.
Amerikan?
'merican?


Ivana?
edit on 12/5/2018 by Phage because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 11:05 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Bloodworth
Give trump another four years and let him go after the deep state.

He main running point next election should be to go after the deep state


He said he would do that this time around.

Trump needs to grow a pair. Sure, he punches back on Twitter, but they are just words.

He should fire every single member of the administration appointed under Obama, fire Mueller, shut down the CIA, direct the AG to open a special counsel into criminal activity of Obama, Hillary and Obama's DoJ, FBI and CIA leadership teams, withdraw all troops from the ME and use the military to build the border wall. He should then close the southern border and shut down immigration completely (to ZERO) until Congress agree a new Immigration bill.

Time is running out for him to take on the deep state - right now it's the 8th round, and he is way behind on points. He needs a knockout.
Why don’t you write a letter to him. Some pretty interesting ideas.



posted on Dec, 6 2018 @ 12:08 AM
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originally posted by: Nickn3
I suspect he is right. In the last two years I have come to see that the US has suffered propaganda at least as substantial as the USSR ever did. Make no mistake, the deep state not only exists, but it controls most of the the world governments. A few strong men stand in the way, Trump, Putin, Xi Jinping, and Obrador to name a few. The deep state seems to control the media and the weak minded. Perhaps the remaining leadership can work together.

It’s going to take strong men to pulls the world back from the brink.


Putin is murderer. He kills his critics and you're calling him a superhero! You're saying that your mind is not clouded by propaganda. Is that a joke or something? He's a dictator in power solely as result of back-to-back rigged elections with videotaped ballot box stuffing. You need to educate yourself.



posted on Dec, 8 2018 @ 02:00 PM
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a reply to: kingsquirel

Wow. Hands shaking?
The same post SIX times.



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