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Fraud$ to deport man who was born in the USA...

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posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 10:12 AM
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Found this article interesting and wondering if anyone had any opinion on it?

Financial motives and incentives...




By Isaac Stanley-Becker | The Washington Post

When Peter Sean Brown turned himself in to the Monroe County (Florida) Sheriff’s Office in April, he expected to be back to work in no time at Fogarty’s, a laid-back restaurant in Key West where diners flock for the Cajun chicken. He had been accused of a probation violation after testing positive for marijuana.

But instead of returning home with a court date or passing a few days in custody, Brown would spend weeks behind bars, battling his way through a labyrinthine immigration nightmare made all the more baffling by his citizenship: He’s a native-born American.

His case tests the relationship between federal immigration operations and local law enforcement, exposing the flip side of the Trump administration’s row with so-called sanctuary cities and revealing what can happen when local jurisdictions, rather than limiting their cooperation with federal officials, gain an incentive to aid immigration enforcement.

Brown’s ordeal began April 5 when he gave his fingerprints as part of a routine book-in procedure. The submissions were sent to the FBI, to verify his criminal record, and to Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

The next day, Brown said, an ICE officer sent the jail a form requesting that Brown be held for removal from the country. The sheriff’s office gave him a copy of the ICE detainer, as the form is known. Checked boxes indicated that he was to be deported because of unspecified “biometric information.”

The document frightened him, but even more so, it surprised him. He didn’t even know what ICE was at the time.

Brown was born in Philadelphia in 1968. He grew up in New Jersey, where he worked in restaurants and hotels for much of his 20s, and moved to Florida about a decade ago. He had a Florida driver’s license, which can be obtained only by citizens of the United States or noncitizens with legal authorization to be in the country.

“I am, and have always been, a citizen of the United States,” Brown said in a video produced by the American Civil Liberties Union and published Monday.

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www.mercurynews.com...
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posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 10:17 AM
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Peter Brown seems like a VERY common name.

Or.......... did he possibly see someone at one of the hotels he worked that he shouldn't have?



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 10:23 AM
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originally posted by: dojozen
Found this article interesting and wondering if anyone had any opinion on it?

Financial motives and incentives...




By Isaac Stanley-Becker | The Washington Post

When Peter Sean Brown turned himself in to the Monroe County (Florida) Sheriff’s Office in April, he expected to be back to work in no time at Fogarty’s, a laid-back restaurant in Key West where diners flock for the Cajun chicken. He had been accused of a probation violation after testing positive for marijuana.

But instead of returning home with a court date or passing a few days in custody, Brown would spend weeks behind bars, battling his way through a labyrinthine immigration nightmare made all the more baffling by his citizenship: He’s a native-born American.

His case tests the relationship between federal immigration operations and local law enforcement, exposing the flip side of the Trump administration’s row with so-called sanctuary cities and revealing what can happen when local jurisdictions, rather than limiting their cooperation with federal officials, gain an incentive to aid immigration enforcement.

Brown’s ordeal began April 5 when he gave his fingerprints as part of a routine book-in procedure. The submissions were sent to the FBI, to verify his criminal record, and to Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

The next day, Brown said, an ICE officer sent the jail a form requesting that Brown be held for removal from the country. The sheriff’s office gave him a copy of the ICE detainer, as the form is known. Checked boxes indicated that he was to be deported because of unspecified “biometric information.”

The document frightened him, but even more so, it surprised him. He didn’t even know what ICE was at the time.

Brown was born in Philadelphia in 1968. He grew up in New Jersey, where he worked in restaurants and hotels for much of his 20s, and moved to Florida about a decade ago. He had a Florida driver’s license, which can be obtained only by citizens of the United States or noncitizens with legal authorization to be in the country.

“I am, and have always been, a citizen of the United States,” Brown said in a video produced by the American Civil Liberties Union and published Monday.

read more
www.mercurynews.com...


Sounds like a bureaucracy out of control. Hopefully, the press coverage will get someone with some power to make whatever bureaucrat is doing this to remove their head from their ass. This is why I don't like big government bureaucracies.



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 10:24 AM
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originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: dojozen

Peter Brown seems like a VERY common name.

Or.......... did he possibly see someone at one of the hotels he worked that he shouldn't have?




You have to read other sources to find out that he was mistaken for a man with the exact same name. That's why you can't trust just one source any more.



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 10:48 AM
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I had a cousin go into the local PD to obtain a gun permit. Her husband kept guns in their truck and she didn't want to get in trouble for driving the truck if her husband forgot to remove the guns. (he's a grounds keeper for local cemeteries and sometimes has to shoot at rabid animals that take up residence there).

Anyway, they take her information and fingerprint her and then promptly arrest her for an armed robbery warrant from a city 300 miles away. This ordeal went on for a few months until she finally got in front of a judge and the whole thing was thrown out.

It turns out no one ever looked at the description of the person who performed the robbery. My cousin is 4'11", white and very petite. The person who committed the crime had the same name, their SSN's were one digit off, but she was 5'11" and Black. The judge was furious.
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posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 10:49 AM
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a reply to: Deetermined
Said they used biometrics?



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 10:50 AM
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Just to prove my point about poor reporting, the complaint filed by the ACLU shows that Peter Sean Brown was detained for a total of three weeks, while the Philly Voice is telling everyone that he was detained for seven months.

www.phillyvoice.com...



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 10:52 AM
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originally posted by: dojozen
a reply to: Deetermined
Said they used biometrics?


Didn't the article say something about "unspecified biometrics"?

Edit to Add: The ACLU complaint shows that this happened to the same guy before approximately 20 years ago. I wonder if they still have his biometrics on file from then and whether they got mixed up with the other man who has the same name.


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posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 11:00 AM
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where on earth would they deport him to when he was born in Philadelphia



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 11:04 AM
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originally posted by: odzeandennz
where on earth would they deport him to when he was born in Philadelphia


Trenton?



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 11:10 AM
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originally posted by: odzeandennz
where on earth would they deport him to when he was born in Philadelphia


They mixed him up with another man from Jamaica.



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 11:10 AM
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Reminds me of a movie called he Wrong Man, except this is probably 10x worse. What if they said he was from the Congo and sent him there, then to die from the Ebola outbreak....

I can think of several crazy scenarios, this could explain all those unusual cases of missing persons... someone call David Paulides, we have a new theory.

www.youtube.com...




posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 11:11 AM
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posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 11:13 AM
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Reminds me of born in east L.A. ...




According to an investigation by the New York Times, more than 200 Homeland Security (DHS) employees and contractors have accepted nearly $15 million in bribes over the last ten years. In return, these border-security officials have turned a blind eye as tons of drugs and thousands of undocumented immigrants were smuggled over the border.
nymag.com...

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posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 11:24 AM
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So, due to government administrative incompetence in handling biometric data (data liklely obtained through covert means), a natural born US citizen is jailed for weeks & threatened to be deported.

Here is a question: where the # were the government going to deport him to?

Mars? Moon? California?



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 11:28 AM
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Thing that pisses me off about this kind of stuff is that it can easily be rectified if someone in the government bureaucracy just gave a damn. It probably wouldn't take 15 minutes to just confirm all that is claimed.... yet here we have lawsuits, man hours, and money being pissed away because no bureaucrat wants to take responsibility and just make a decision.



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 01:25 PM
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. A Syracuse University study published in 2013 used ICE records to determine that the agency had placed detainers on 834 U.S. citizens over just a four-year period.







Meanwhile, the complaint alleges, officers mocked his appeals. As Brown insisted that he was from Philadelphia, one guard sang the theme song from the 1990s sitcom “The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air” that begins: “In west Philadelphia born and raised, On the playground was where I spent most of my days, Chillin’ out maxin’ relaxin’ all cool, And all shooting some b-ball outside of the school …”ext

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posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 07:14 PM
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a reply to: BomSquad


How is that even possible.... ohhh wait!



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 05:57 AM
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originally posted by: Edumakated
Thing that pisses me off about this kind of stuff is that it can easily be rectified if someone in the government bureaucracy just gave a damn. It probably wouldn't take 15 minutes to just confirm all that is claimed.... yet here we have lawsuits, man hours, and money being pissed away because no bureaucrat wants to take responsibility and just make a decision.


You have to know that illegal immigrants are lying to officials constantly. This man would have saved himself a lot of trouble if he had his friend dig up his birth certificate for him a lot sooner. Never trust the system to do the work for you.



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 06:11 AM
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a reply to: Deetermined

Shame his driver license was not good enough...have to be a US Citizen to get one in Florida...

Besides all they had to do was look at his file...the article states...it would have verified his claims also.

Negligence is one thing, though this looks like it went a few steps beyond.



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