It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

The "Right Wing Extremist" Fallacy, and Other Thoughts On Leftist Strategy

page: 5
26
<< 2  3  4    6 >>

log in

join
share:

posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 07:09 PM
link   
a reply to: TrueBrit

Do you even live in the US?




posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 07:18 PM
link   
Where I live in the Pacific Northwest, the media built up this big protest on the news for a week with an extremist alt-right hate group showing up to a college near where I live. They ended up cancelling all the classes and shutting down the college the day the extremist group showed up. Except there were actually more media members there than protesters. There was literally 8 protesters that looked like a collection of soccer moms and unemployed uncles walking around a parking lot carrying American flags and reciting the pledge of allegiance. That is what everyone was cowering in fear from.

Meanwhile, across the river in Portland you have Antifa taking over the streets and pulling elderly people out of their cars and damaging their vehicles with batons. And that goes unreported in the news...
edit on 4-12-2018 by sooth because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 11:32 PM
link   
a reply to: sooth


Meanwhile, across the river in Portland you have Antifa taking over the streets and pulling elderly people out of their cars and damaging their vehicles with batons. And that goes unreported in the news...


Sounds about right

The left likes to make excuses for those domestic terrorists too, instead of berating them and exposing them as the violent commie useful idiots they really are

Best to ignore them, thankfully the more they throw around their provably moronic assertions and evil white male rhetoric the more serious people ignore them



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 12:47 AM
link   
a reply to: watchitburn

Capitalism =/= Opportuinty



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 12:57 AM
link   
Holy crap what a complete waste of space.

Guess what neither party cares about you. They are both under banker and globalist control.

The fact that so many people on ATS are dumb enough now to believe the controlled opposition narratives is mind blowing to me.

Wake up. If you are reading this realize that this post is playing a roll in the false right left paradigm being used to control the people who think more than they feel and those who feel more than they think

Seek a balance between the 2 and you will see how stupid this philosophy is



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 12:59 AM
link   

originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: watchitburn

Capitalism =/= Opportuinty


And hence the third world migration to the capitalist west. They want ‘opportunity’, which is provided by capitalism.

Imagine their laughter when the moronic ‘left’ tries to get them to vote for an end to that ‘opportunity’ and a step back into the oppressive socialist dictatorship societies from which they ‘fled’.



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 01:03 AM
link   
a reply to: Breakthestreak

Imagine their laughter when they realize we aren't capitalist



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 02:31 AM
link   
a reply to: toysforadults

No true Scotsman fallacy, how fun. We are far more capitalist than most countries. Also the most competitive capitalist economy.

Imagine their shock when they find out all of their socialist countries they're fleeing aren't really socialist, according to the leftists here.
edit on 5-12-2018 by Dfairlite because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 02:43 AM
link   
a reply to: toysforadults




Guess what neither party cares about you.


No one claimed they did.



They are both under banker and globalist control.


Yes, the deep state is very real.



The fact that so many people on ATS are dumb enough now to believe the controlled opposition narratives is mind blowing to me.


Are you suggesting I'm controlled opposition? If you read the OP you'd know that it's not about a subject presented in an article. It's about a graph, which the article was using for entirely different purposes, but which I saw a lot more interesting information in.


If you are reading this realize that this post is playing a roll in the false right left paradigm being used to control the people who think more than they feel and those who feel more than they think


You realize you read this, right? I get so tired of these moronic "the left right paradigm is fake" posts. They're really most indicative that the poster has no real network of diversely opinionated friends or family.



Seek a balance between the 2 and you will see how stupid this philosophy is


That's what the overton window is and that's why the left keeps moving left. Also, that's a huge tool of the globalist cabal, you're not only falling for it, but you're asking others to do the exact same thing. Here I thought you were against the globalist cabal.

If you really want to fight the globalists you have to approach things from the position of: Does this grant more personal liberty or less. Their bid for control always results in less. So if you're maximizing your liberty you're on the right side against the globalists.



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 04:20 AM
link   
a reply to: Sublimecraft

Desiring a border wall in this period (where, factually speaking, the crossing of the Southern land border was markedly decreased by the time Trump started his campaign, and when land crossings account for the least of the illegal immigration in the US) is racist, referring to immigrants as rapists and murderers is racist, treating Muslims differently just because an irrelevantly tiny fraction of people who profess to the Muslim faith are terrorists is also phobic in origin as thoughts go, the man uses the Nazi propaganda methods familiar to anyone who has read the history of WW2, gathers about himself policy makers who he knows will go along with and happily endorse his fascist methodology, like that slime Steven Miller and others.

You can put up walls around your mind, like "Waaaah, if he didn't say the N word, or do a Roman salute on camera, then hes not a racist, waaaah" if you like, but if you actually look at the implications of what he has said and done, and come to the conclusion that he is anything but a parasitic Nazi appeasing bastard, then you need to take your self aside and work out where your incompetence came from. You have a blindspot the size of a galaxy where this guy is concerned.



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 04:24 AM
link   
a reply to: TonyS


If the Trump fellating scum out there refuse to take their man to task for his constant generalisations, lies, hypocrisy and his total lack of manners and decorum, and you are with them, then you simply have no right to call someone else out for a much less serious example of the same behaviour. Get the log out of your eyes and that of the scum who follow your false idol, before you drop a damn thing at my door.

If you do not like the way it feels to have to do that, make sure you understand, that its Trumpscum who started this decline in standards, and if they don't find themselves enjoying the new level, they have only themselves and their animate lump of corrupted snot to thank for it.



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 04:28 AM
link   
a reply to: LSU2018

No it isn't.

Fighting Nazis does not make a person Nazi. Crushing fascism does not make a person a fascist. Caving in the faces of those who would gladly kill a person, or allow discrimination against a person for being an immigrant
does not make a person a racist.

It makes a person right.

As for your NONSENSICAL waffle about people on "my side" using racial slurs... no. My side destroys people who do that, they do not engage in it themselves.



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 05:01 AM
link   
a reply to: TrueBrit


Fighting Nazis does not make a person Nazi.


So that's where the nazi's went wrong, they needed to call the other guys nazi's first, then attack them. Genius!


Crushing fascism does not make a person a fascist.


When the "fascism" you're crushing is just people's opinions which are different from yours, it makes you a fascist.


Caving in the faces of those who would gladly kill a person, or allow discrimination against a person for being an immigrant does not make a person a racist.


So if someone would stand by and not say anything while discrimination happened against an immigrant, that person should be assaulted? You guys are nuts. Certifiably insane.


It makes a person right.


You know who else thought they were right and everyone else was wrong and their moral righteousness made their assaults on people with different ideas ok? The nazi's.

Unsurprisingly it is yet again the socialists who are the nazi's. They just masquerade under "anti-nazism."


As for your NONSENSICAL waffle about people on "my side" using racial slurs... no. My side destroys people who do that, they do not engage in it themselves.


He never said anything about racial slurs (unless you think the calling people uneducated negroes is a racial slur, which was a term used right on CNN. I believe the actual phrasing was negroes who don't read.) and the dems have a long history of racism.

Here's a quote from dems resident klansman (who passed as a dem hero) Robert "sheets" Byrd:
"Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds."

That was written by him in a letter after he left the KKK.

Then there was spike lee, calling clarence thomas: "A handkerchief-head, chicken-and-biscuit-eating Uncle Tom."

Then there was racist joe biden: "You cannot go to a 7-11 or Dunkin Donuts unless you have a slight Indian Accent." That was just three years ago.

Nevermind hillary's superpredator comment, just a few weeks ago she said all black people look the same.

Let's not get into the left's anti-white racism. There are far too many examples to list.

Then there's the woman beaters who fill your ranks. The serial sexual assaulter's who masquerade as "feminists" are mostly on your side too.

Face it, the left in the US is a party low on virtue and high on signaling it. Only people of the lowest intelligence can't see it.

BONUS:
The left LOVES Louis Farrakhan here's what he said about hitler:
"The Jews don't like Farrakhan, so they call me Hitler. Well, that's a good name. Hitler was a very great man. He rose Germany up from the ashes."

Oddly, Louis hates trump. If Trump were hitler or nazi-esque, wouldn't louis love him?
edit on 5-12-2018 by Dfairlite because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 05:03 AM
link   

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: LSU2018

No it isn't.

Fighting Nazis does not make a person Nazi. Crushing fascism does not make a person a fascist. Caving in the faces of those who would gladly kill a person, or allow discrimination against a person for being an immigrant
does not make a person a racist.

It makes a person right.

As for your NONSENSICAL waffle about people on "my side" using racial slurs... no. My side destroys people who do that, they do not engage in it themselves.


“Think how we think or we’ll attack you”

The very definition of fascism



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 05:23 AM
link   
a reply to: TrueBrit



Desiring a border wall in this period is racist


LMAO, funny. Mexico wants to build a wall now! Who knew there were so many racist mexicans!
In 2017 there were 310,531 arrests for illegal border crossings. That's 850 a day. We need a wall.
I don't care if they're irishmen coming to mexico to cross illegally. We need a wall.


referring to immigrants as rapists and murderers is racist

No one did that. I'm guessing that you're referring to trump's announcement he was going to run where he said the illegal immigrants being sent by other countries were made up of many types of criminals as well as some decent people. These are facts. Not racism.



treating Muslims differently just because an irrelevantly tiny fraction of people who profess to the Muslim faith are terrorists is also phobic

Profiling isn't phobia. You may not agree with it on a policy level, but you do it everyday. Our previous president did it to, but rather than profiling the people causing the problem he decided to profile people who didn't. You were ok with that.


the man uses the Nazi propaganda methods familiar to anyone who has read the history of WW2

Such an empty statement. What propaganda method does trump use that every recent president hasn't used?


gathers about himself policy makers who he knows will go along with and happily endorse his fascist methodology, like that slime Steven Miller and others.


It's news to you that presidents pick people who are yes men as their close allies? LOL hatred is a hell of a drug.


You can put up walls around your mind, like "Waaaah, if he didn't say the N word, or do a Roman salute on camera, then hes not a racist, waaaah" if you like, but if you actually look at the implications of what he has said and done, and come to the conclusion that he is anything but a parasitic Nazi appeasing bastard, then you need to take your self aside and work out where your incompetence came from.


So basically you have no actual evidence of racism by trump but you want it to be true so anyone who disagrees needs to figure out why they can't come to the same conclusion based on lack of evidence.



You have a blindspot the size of a galaxy where this guy is concerned.


Yes, you do.
Trump is so racist he received an award with Rosa Parks and Muhammad Ali in 1986 for "patriotism, tolerance, brotherhood and diversity." LOL Remove the beam from your eye, lad.



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 06:43 AM
link   
a reply to: TrueBrit

I rarely agree with what you have to say, but normally I can at least follow it. Lately though, it seems to have gotten even more shrill, self-righteous, and self-aggrandizing than normal.

But this:


As for your NONSENSICAL waffle about people on "my side" using racial slurs... no. My side destroys people who do that, they do not engage in it themselves


I call that bold talk for a man with your legal history.



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 08:04 AM
link   
a reply to: Shamrock6

I mean I actually have had conversations with truebrit, and despite rarely agreeing, find that he can be funny and very smart

But man, when he gets off on these tirades, calling anyone who disagrees with him a racist or nazi, and bragging how he and his people will use violence to destroy them, it’s actually quite frightening

Not because I am worried about him personally

But because it shows how warped hate can make a persons mind

He truest believes that he is not only justified in attacking and possibly even killing trump supporters, but that he has a moral obligation to do so

And beyond that, there have been times when I have called this out in ats, and many posters defended his statements

This is such an insane level of delusion that it almost defies belief



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 08:08 AM
link   
a reply to: Shamrock6

Snare comments is all you could fathom to come up with? Interesting debate style. Not very effective, but surely an interesting way to shut down any and all debate whatsoever.

"Left Wing Extremist Exit Strategy" anyone?

Chapeau!



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 08:20 AM
link   
a reply to: Grambler


This is such an insane level of delusion that it almost defies belief


The key word being "almost," because unfortunately we're presented with proof of the level of delusion somebody can achieve, no matter their political leaning, time and time again.



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 10:30 AM
link   
a reply to: Shamrock6

What someone with your history of supporting unsupportable people, whose aims are unethical and have no place in this modern era, thinks of my legal history means less than nothing to me, as does your opinion of me in general.

For the record, my legal history is that despite having been a victim of a fraud committed with the aid of her majesties government, I continue to believe that those who deliberately support those who wish to insert bias and discrimination into a nations legal and moral framework, have committed the greatest possible crime, and should be treated like the worst sort of criminals, and no matter how many times I am victimised by an opportunist, that will not change.

The difference between those who advocate for the far right on this site, and myself, is that I have been accused without having actually ever having earned it by way of behaving in anything less than an EXEMPLARY fashion toward people of all origins, creeds and sexualities throughout the whole of my life. Its an irony. When I accuse those of you who have supported a fascist regime, you cannot deny it, you cannot deny what it is, you cannot evade it, but you try and you try.

Regardless, the difference between us, is that those of you who find yourself disagreeing with my attitude on Nazis, ARE everything you get accused of being, and deserve to be ill treated and to have the respect you think you deserve, denied you, because your actions are what got you accused, where as I attracted an accusation having done literally nothing wrong.

It does not matter how many times you try to deflect, bring up a past that never happened, because your actions, your support for far right terrorists, your support for far right positions, and your ignorant piece of crap of a leader, ARE, factually, evidence, far more evidence than has ever been presented against me in a court of law, that you are everything I suggest you are and worse. If you do not like the constant, unrelenting pressure that puts you all under, if you do not like the constant accusations that stem from your utterly unacceptable behaviour, which stems itself from your witless and objectionably flawed beliefs, then I suggest you either change your beliefs, or piss off to storm front where your toxic, inhuman, phobia driven political beliefs will find comfort and mindless acceptance, of the sort that personifies your entire half of the political spectrum.




top topics



 
26
<< 2  3  4    6 >>

log in

join