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The "Right Wing Extremist" Fallacy, and Other Thoughts On Leftist Strategy

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posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 09:10 AM
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a reply to: Grambler




This goes along with what the OP is presenting. It seems people on the left accuse the right of the very things they do; rather it be becoming more extremist, advocating fascism or hate, or hating people based on characteristic such as race or gender.


We just had some journalists breaking the story of a fascist network with actual neo-nazis in the army, police and other security-services, who planned to kill people in Germany (again). If we're up to apply your logic here, this prevention of said slaughter surely would be an act of fascism itself?

You didn't really think this through, amirite?




posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 09:13 AM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: Grambler




This goes along with what the OP is presenting. It seems people on the left accuse the right of the very things they do; rather it be becoming more extremist, advocating fascism or hate, or hating people based on characteristic such as race or gender.


We just had some journalists breaking the story of a fascist network with actual neo-nazis in the army, police and other security-services, who planned to kill people in Germany (again). If we're up to apply your logic here, this prevention of said slaughter surely would be an act of fascism itself?

You didn't really think this through, amirite?


How did I remotely say that? Of course real extrmoists exist on all sides, but to make broad claims like that poster has done or others on the left that Re[publicans or trump voters are open racist is absurd.

But sure let me play your game.

So because some nazi were arrested in Germany, akll right wingers must be racist nazis and must be killed in certain situations like Truebrit has claimed.

Amirite?



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 09:14 AM
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This OP is spot on in many ways.

I think you showed great insight into the looney behavior we have seen from the Left. If anything I am far more liberal than I was 20 years ago, but somehow I am now a extremist because I support the Constitution and personal liberty...two things that used to be ubiquitous in American culture.

I blame much of what we see from the Dems on Globslists like Soros and the assholes at the U.N. Undermining U.S. sovereignty is now a major part of the Dem’s “plan” for America. As long as they are in control they don’t care who they hurt or how they win elections.



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 09:29 AM
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originally posted by: soundguy
Here’s the thing, when you are a rwnj, there really isn’t any farther right. Nice try though. Really...a reply to: Dfairlite



Sort of the point, isn't it? The left extremists keep coming up with new ways to move even further left than they were last year. The right wing extremists are what they are. They're ugly and vile, but they are what they are. The leftist extremists keep managing to manufacture new ways to be even more extreme than they already were.



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 09:35 AM
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originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: DBCowboy

So our only shot to end the inevitable is to take over the government?


There you go, I knew someone could get us to the violence. A nazi kitty none-the-less! Way to represent!



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 09:44 AM
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a reply to: watchitburn

Yeah, being antifascist makes me a racist, being anti-racist makes me racist.

Meanwhile:

Politicians who are or advocate for outright neo-nazis:

Ron DeSantis
Lou Barletta
John Fitzgerald
Matt Gaetz
Arthur Jones
Dana Rohrabacher
Corey Stewart
Russel Walker
Steve West


Politicians who are just straight up racist:

Seth Grossman
Steve King

Thats a short list, and incomplete. These are people consorting with Nazi groups, one of them was leader of the American Nazi Party... Are you going to recant your support for the notion that there is no right swing, or are you going to keep lying to yourself and everyone else?



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 09:46 AM
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a reply to: Grambler

So when there are extremists on all sides, which would include Neo-Nazi Trumpets, how is it a fascist act to prevent them from committing fascist acts?



But sure let me play your game.


This isn't a game, it's called logics for a reason.



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 09:50 AM
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a reply to: Shamrock6




The leftist extremists keep managing to manufacture new ways to be even more extreme than they already were.


What? Where? When?



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 09:51 AM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: Shamrock6




The leftist extremists keep managing to manufacture new ways to be even more extreme than they already were.


What? Where? When?


Who? Why? How?



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 09:54 AM
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a reply to: TrueBrit

Man you are a hypocrite.

Lets look at matt geatz for starters.

He invited a person to the state of the union he didntr know was a twitter troll and alt right.

So for you he is a nazi advocate.

Yet I have seen you defend Jeremy Corbyn for being called anti semitic, which I agreed with you.

Lets see some of the things he did.


In a statement, Mr Corbyn said: "The main speaker at this Holocaust Memorial Day meeting, part of a tour entitled 'Never Again - For Anyone', was a Jewish Auschwitz survivor.

"Views were expressed at the meeting which I do not accept or condone.

"In the past, in pursuit of justice for the Palestinian people and peace in Israel/Palestine, I have on occasion appeared on platforms with people whose views I completely reject.

"I apologise for the concerns and anxiety that this has caused."


www.independent.co.uk...

So gaetz is a nazi advocate for inviting a person he didnt know was alt right to an event.

But corbyn speaking on stage with anti semites is totally cool and people shouldnt call him an anti semite.

Please just stop,. you are embarrassing yourself.



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 09:57 AM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: Grambler

So when there are extremists on all sides, which would include Neo-Nazi Trumpets, how is it a fascist act to prevent them from committing fascist acts?



But sure let me play your game.


This isn't a game, it's called logics for a reason.


Who said it was fascist to prevent nazis from committing violence?

Show me where i said that.

Meanhwile the number of actual nazis is extemrely low, and yet npeople on the left like Truebrit call all trump supporters fascist supporters, and advocate violence against them, up to and including murder of them, all the while claiming to be morally justified and fighting hatred.


Of course you would defend that.



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 09:58 AM
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Socialism is on the rise in the United States. There is also an absurd brigade of self-proclaimed anti-fascists who resemble fascists more than their opponents do. They’ve learned little from history.



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 10:06 AM
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originally posted by: whargoul

originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: DBCowboy

So our only shot to end the inevitable is to take over the government?


There you go, I knew someone could get us to the violence. A nazi kitty none-the-less! Way to represent!


Grammar cat. Don't mistake my emblem for a swastika. You're the only one who brought up violence, I simply asked a yes or no question.



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 10:11 AM
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originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: Dfairlite




If we were to believe them , the republican ranks would be filled with people just shy of open neo-nazism and white supremacy.



They are. The Trump presidency is all the evidence that is required to support that notion, and what is more, its not the only evidence available either. The GOP is stuffed full of racists and fascists, people openly distrustful and hateful of minorities, people who stoke the fires of hate and fear amongst their voter base, not just because it happens to get them seats at the big table, but because they believe in their hearts that their disgusting, inhuman, weak and phobic beliefs are correct.

Try making your argument again having accepted that fact, rather than denying it outright despite its factuality.





Generalizations much?



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 10:11 AM
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originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: watchitburn

Yeah, being antifascist makes me a racist, being anti-racist makes me racist.




You support the side that initiates violence to shut down free speech that they don't like. You support the same side that calls black people uneducated negros because some blacks don't support the leftist view.

To call yourself anti fascist and anti racist is a lie until you stop supporting them.



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 10:11 AM
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originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: watchitburn

Yeah, being antifascist makes me a racist, being anti-racist makes me racist.

Meanwhile:

Politicians who are or advocate for outright neo-nazis:

Ron DeSantis
Lou Barletta
John Fitzgerald
Matt Gaetz
Arthur Jones
Dana Rohrabacher
Corey Stewart
Russel Walker
Steve West


Politicians who are just straight up racist:

Seth Grossman
Steve King

Thats a short list, and incomplete. These are people consorting with Nazi groups, one of them was leader of the American Nazi Party... Are you going to recant your support for the notion that there is no right swing, or are you going to keep lying to yourself and everyone else?


LOL, at this stage of the game, you're about as antifascist as Hitler.

But, here's your chance to redeem yourself from your tragic position, it should be easy, given the dribble you've posted:

Give me solid proof that Trump is a racist - I want to hear the racism straight from his mouth, no BS sources thanks, just the actual video of the racism proceeding from his mouth.

Go for it tiger, I'm standing by.



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 10:12 AM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: Grambler

So when there are extremists on all sides, which would include Neo-Nazi Trumpets, how is it a fascist act to prevent them from committing fascist acts?



But sure let me play your game.


This isn't a game, it's called logics for a reason.


Who said it was fascist to prevent nazis from committing violence?

Show me where i said that.

Meanhwile the number of actual nazis is extemrely low, and yet npeople on the left like Truebrit call all trump supporters fascist supporters, and advocate violence against them, up to and including murder of them, all the while claiming to be morally justified and fighting hatred.


Of course you would defend that.


They are essentially thought police. They don’t reserve their indignation for the violent or the criminal, but for those who don’t think like them. In that they reveal their totalitarian tendency.



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 10:18 AM
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So you have no clue what you said and now we are advocating to kill all Trumpets already?

Of course you would defend a position you just made up. That's pretty much the only thing you have left to defend.

a reply to: Shamrock6

The end of times must be near. Evil leftists everywhere, did you check the dark spot under your bed yet? No?

Muahahahaha!



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 10:22 AM
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a reply to: PublicOpinion

Hahaha!

So you cant show me anywhere remotely saying stopping nazis from committing violence is fascsim.

I thougfht so.

Now as to what Truebrit has said; yes he has said all trump supporters are supporters of fascism, and yes he said violence is not only acceptable against them, but justified. He has also said that if Trump were to gain too much power, we would need to murder trump supporters.

ask him he will tell you.

Meanwhile you jump into my conversation showing thoughts like that show some on the left accuse the right of the very things they themselves do, make up that I said stopping nazi violence is fascism, and then accuse me of making things up.

Ironically, again showing the claim of the OP, that you are accusing others of doing something (making stuff up) that you are the only one doing.

Glad you are getting a laugh though! If you cant laugh at your own delusional made up fantasies, what can you laugh at?



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 10:22 AM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: Grambler

So when there are extremists on all sides, which would include Neo-Nazi Trumpets, how is it a fascist act to prevent them from committing fascist acts?



But sure let me play your game.


This isn't a game, it's called logics for a reason.


Who said it was fascist to prevent nazis from committing violence?

Show me where i said that.

Meanhwile the number of actual nazis is extemrely low, and yet npeople on the left like Truebrit call all trump supporters fascist supporters, and advocate violence against them, up to and including murder of them, all the while claiming to be morally justified and fighting hatred.


Of course you would defend that.


When you're incapable of independent thought, it's easy to be the thing you claim to hate. These people remind me of that antifa leader that was involved in beating the guy with the Trump sign and said they did it because he was a fascist. They're not all there, man.



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