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Caravan strategy changing to use boats now and coming in by sea...bypassing wall.

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posted on Dec, 3 2018 @ 07:17 PM
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a reply to: highvein

Damn the Torpedo's , Full Speed Ahead !

The Enemy Is OURS !




posted on Dec, 3 2018 @ 07:25 PM
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a reply to: highvein

Can see some ambulance chasing lawyers ready to file suit, if anyone was injured...
California, ...the one lady who impaled herself, may have a case...



posted on Dec, 3 2018 @ 07:44 PM
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Here comes the new boat people. preyed on by pirates, left to die in the sun and heat. blah blah blah.
You get in a boat with no place to go it's your problem, at least it should be.

Out in the ocean I could see people doing some very evil things believing no one will see them.
Even if they don't rest assured the media will create some stories about it happening.
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posted on Dec, 3 2018 @ 07:44 PM
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originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: highvein

Damn the Torpedo's , Full Speed Ahead !

The Enemy Is OURS !



Or just put them on a boat and take them back.



posted on Dec, 3 2018 @ 07:45 PM
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originally posted by: dojozen
a reply to: highvein

Can see some ambulance chasing lawyers ready to file suit, if anyone was injured...
California, ...the one lady who impaled herself, may have a case...



They could try, I guess.



posted on Dec, 3 2018 @ 08:12 PM
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This thread reminds me of someone I used to know. I worked for a company that had an illegal employee. He spent two days in the ocean floating in a tube to avoid the federales in Mex (come to find out he had killed a guy). He floated to the states without being discovered.

We nicknamed him "Tiburon" (shark in Spanish). The name has stuck to this day.

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posted on Dec, 3 2018 @ 08:28 PM
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a reply to: [post=24007756]Asktheanimals

Lot things could happen out in water, think majority of them may fear water more than tear gas and rubber bullets.

If a few people made it successfully and did a youtube video or whatsapp to th rest of the group and showed them how easy it was, set the beacon and rally points and then had some international water vessels on standby to support, if any of them got swept out with the tide and current and sure the Coast Guard love to talk with the pirates...



posted on Dec, 3 2018 @ 08:39 PM
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a reply to: mtnshredder

There ya have it...really do not see it being so bad, if not afraid of water and know how to swim and had life vest jackets and cooler full of liquid refreshments and some snacks....

might beat trying to get across the Rio Grande when it is running good..

Water cannon, drone or air strike, or maybe a submarine jacking with them, might be the only real obstacles...

Could have the boats pulling a few tug boat style and pull the daisy chain of those who want to hitch a ride...be safe as train jumping they been doing....maybe safer.....

Though having some support in international water and drone coverage at all times, to make sure if someone needed emergency help, could have a plan of action.


Have seen some nice new aqua equipment, even electric jetskis and diving gear stuff...motors that get ya there in a few hours





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posted on Dec, 3 2018 @ 08:45 PM
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a reply to: highvein
Read today, there is OTM - other than mexican
Honduras would be a long boat ride...

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posted on Dec, 3 2018 @ 08:50 PM
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a reply to: highvein
California already contemplating suing Trump admin. for use of teargas on them and tried to sue and block the wall being built...

Almost like if they can make it to California, will have safe haven in some places...if they all pooled their money together, could buy some border ranch town, though sure the underground railroad of some form exists


www.scubajet.com...


This does 5mph per hour and has 3 hour battery life...





They could start a factory there in Tijuana and build custom size knock off models designed with auto pilot to help with navigation.

Sure a gasoline model be cheaper than electric, might not be as quiet though..
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posted on Dec, 3 2018 @ 09:01 PM
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I feel like I'm talking to someone too young to remember the swarms of Haitian and Cuban boat people. It didn't work extraordinarily well. Of course, these were people who actually felt their lives were in danger so were willing to put their lives on the lines to escape. They weren't fat and happy with cell phones looking to bust the border in order to send money back home from their sweet US job while they lived for free on the US taxpayer.



posted on Dec, 3 2018 @ 11:36 PM
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California already contemplating suing Trump admin. for use of teargas on them and tried to sue and block the wall being built...


Well California cannot even figure out how to stop people from $h!+ing in the streets, so I wouldn't depend on Cali for good ideas politically.





They could start a factory there in Tijuana and build custom size knock off models designed with auto pilot to help with navigation.


Riding on a device that is shaped similar to a torpedo trying to illegally enter another country could very well be a death wish.



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 05:20 AM
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a reply to: RadioRobert

They had cell phones back then?

Think there has been a history of regime changes and intervention in those majority of Latin America, if not all...

De-stablization has been more of the agenda at times...if you are old enough to remember.



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posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 05:25 AM
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Yea, least in California, they can get a job cleaning up crap.


Yeah, Alibaba knock off of those torpedos will bring price point down to around $50 wholesale cost and extra battery packs $10 each.

For sure be nice to have one, just in case of emergency.





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posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 06:08 AM
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Why not? It still doesn't matter how many people cross from the South to the North on foot or by sea, because its people coming by plane legally and overstaying their visas, who make up the largest statistically relevant demographic within the illegal immigrant population. Its been that way for years and years and years and years, so many years that it makes the whole border wall idea look as stupid as it actually is.



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 07:10 AM
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Good point...refugee asylum seeking is just one avenue.

Think if you look at history, can see what happens when you let a bunch of foreigners into your country...


Here is an interesting one...

13 Immigrants who got turned away...are suing DHS,




www.splcenter.org...

The Trump administration has illegally and deliberately restricted the number of individuals who can access the asylum process at ports of entry along the U.S.-Mexico border, according to an updated class action lawsuit filing from the SPLC.

The case is called Al Otro Lado, Inc. v. Nielsen.

In accordance with the official “Turnback Policy,” U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) officials have used various methods to unlawfully delay migrants’ access to the asylum process based on purported – but seemingly untrue – assertions of a lack of “capacity” to process them.

The "Turnback Policy" compounds other longstanding border-wide practices CBP has been using since at least 2016 to prevent migrants from seeking asylum in the United States. The Trump administration’s policy and widespread practice of turnbacks violate U.S. and international law, and subject vulnerable people who are seeking asylum to imminent danger, deportation or death, the lawsuit states.

An amended complaint was filed on Friday by 13 individual asylum seekers and Al Otro Lado, an immigration legal services provider, against high-level officials at the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and U.S. Customs and Border Protection.

“Internal CBP documents released in this case reveal that high-level CBP officials authorized a Turnback Policy as early as 2016 to restrict the flow of asylum seekers to the U.S.-Mexico border,” said Melissa Crow, senior supervising attorney with the SPLC’s Immigrant Justice Project. “The Turnback Policy has escalated under the Trump administration and has been buttressed by a wide range of unlawful tactics that CBP uses to deny asylum seekers access to the protection they deserve.”

CBP’s unlawful turnback tactics include an extensive array of inaccurate information and abusive treatment that asylum seekers have faced at the hands of U.S. border officials, including assertions that the U.S. is no longer providing asylum or that people from specific countries are not eligible; yelling at, harassing, and assaulting asylum seekers and their children; threatening to take children away from their parents; and setting up “pre-checkpoints” that prevent asylum seekers from reaching the U.S. border.

CBP officials have misinformed asylum seekers that they could not apply for asylum because “Donald Trump just signed new laws saying there is no asylum for anyone,” according to the lawsuit.




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posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 08:23 PM
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a reply to: Aallanon

Welcome to the party.........



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 09:57 PM
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The People and Organizations behind the European African Male caravans are behind this one as well.



posted on Dec, 4 2018 @ 10:01 PM
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Hmmmm, coming in on the coast by
boat.

Imagine that



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 10:58 AM
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a reply to: AtlasHawk Tony Blair part of it?




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