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It Begins ... Part of the Green New Deal?

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posted on Dec, 2 2018 @ 07:10 PM
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FL Congressman Ted Deutch wrote a Carbon Tax Bill.

The House looks like it will begin its grandstanding with this thing.

Look at the bullet points:

1. Imposes a national energy tax that just keeps going up. This thing is worse than the one recently voted down in Washington.


Just like the French proposal that starts with a big tax that gets more oppressive with time, the bill imposes a $15 per ton carbon (energy) tax, increasing by $10 per year into the future. Within five years the tax would automatically rise to $55 per ton.


2. Shovels that money into a slush fund for the EPA, IRS and State Dept. You know, those bureaucrats are staved for funds!


The IRS and EPA will develop a cozy relationship — and what’s not to love about that — to siphon cash from the vat of taxpayer funds for what the bill calls “Administrative Expenses” and “Other Administrative Expenses.”


3. But wait ... there's more! It gives the IRS all kinds of power to find new stuff to carbon tax. Gotta find MOAR slush for the fund. Right?


IRS is directed to work with the EPA in order to find more tax targets: “Any manufactured or agricultural product which the [Treasury] Secretary in consultation with the [EPA] Administrator determines” is a tax target. The newly-carbon-taxed items will be added to the long list already specified in the bill: Iron, steel, steel mill products including pipe and tube, aluminum, cement, glass, fiberglass, pulp, paper, chemicals, and industrial ceramics.


4. Turns the EPA Chief into a mini-tzar who can butt into your life and force all kinds of record keeping and reporting to his agency.


The bill gives czar-like powers to the EPA chief including the power to impose “monitoring, reporting, and record-keeping requirements” on Americans.
The EPA Chief will also have more power to force investigations and "information collection" -- papers please!


5. This is the worst -- Creates something called a "Carbon Dividend Trust Fund" that imposes a backdoor two-child limit on families! Hello, Georgia Guidestones? China? We see you ...


Here it is, straight from the bill text:

“A carbon dividend payment is one pro-rata share for each adult and half a pro-rata share for each child under 19 years old, with a limit of 2 children per household, of amounts available for the month in the Carbon Dividend Trust Fund.”


Don't have too many kids, folks, or you won't get your dividend.

6. Gives all kinds of power to Treasury to make even more rules about this "Carbon Dividend Trust Fund."

Oh, but the Trust Fund gets even better ... assuming you manage to get some pennies back after the bureaucrats are done stealing from you and skimming and shifting it around and deciding you don't have too many kids ...

7. Imposes Income Tax on the carbon tax scheme!


Here is the bill language:

“(D) FEE TREATMENT OF PAYMENTS. — Amounts paid under this subsection shall be includible in gross income.

A tax on a tax, which will likely increase the complexity of your annual tax filing. Here’s an idea — how about not taking the money from taxpayers in the first place?


So it's like you get your income tax return and get taxed on it to start off your next tax season! Outstanding!

8. Opens the door to a Euro style VAT scheme on top of all this other taxation and taxing of taxation. How do you all feel about being triple taxed? Its through some kind of complicated "carban tax border adjustment" scheme.

9. And authorizes armed carbon tax enforcement agents. Because we really need another armed branch of government enforcement.


the bill states:

“The revenues collected under this chapter may be used to supplement appropriations made available in fiscal years 2018 and thereafter –

“(1) to U.S. Customs and Border Protection, in such amounts as are necessary to administer the carbon border fee adjustment.”


Now this thing shouldn't ever see the light of day. I'd be surprised if it passes the House even under Democrat control, but this is how they think. This is how much they want to control your life.

Notice how there isn't any plan to help the environment in this, just more government control. This is disturbing, but even if it does exit the HOuse, the Senate is gonna say, "NO."


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posted on Dec, 2 2018 @ 07:14 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko


####ing assholes in DC.

Apologies for the language.

Just no.

Greedy commie douche-twinkies.


Pathetic, moronic elitist asshat socialist fascist tards.



If I was too subtle, just PM me for how I really feel.



posted on Dec, 2 2018 @ 07:23 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko


Wish you would have put this in the mud pit, so me and DB could have a field day. Fascists will be fascists though. Welcome to the New World Order?



posted on Dec, 2 2018 @ 07:27 PM
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Buying plenty of gorilla tape to keep my wallet safe.

The NWO pickpockets are going to be busy.

😳



posted on Dec, 2 2018 @ 07:29 PM
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Weren't the French protesting something similar? Gas tax?

Agenda 21?


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posted on Dec, 2 2018 @ 07:31 PM
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If something like this ever gets green lighted and enacted for an extended period, this country may never recover.....this is that bad.

Also, they do love taking our money for their nebulous "Administrative Expenses" dont they? Surely our trusted bureaucrats would never dream of misusing these critical funds??
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posted on Dec, 2 2018 @ 07:33 PM
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As the Senate stands, I cannot see this doing more than possibly passing the House although I cannot imagine this passes the House although they may be crazy enough to send it on knowing it won't get out of the Senate to try to grand stand on the environment for 2020.



posted on Dec, 2 2018 @ 07:46 PM
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This should be called the brown movement.

It will make energy so expensive that you won't be able to afford to turn on the lights.



posted on Dec, 2 2018 @ 07:51 PM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
This should be called the brown movement.

It will make energy so expensive that you won't be able to afford to turn on the lights.


It should be called the economy killer or the real Back to Africa Movement. If they do this, we'll shortly all be living subsistence like farmers in Africa because there won't be an economy and no one will be doing more than trying to eek out a bare living, and that will likely be illegal to do too because of the carbon footprint.



posted on Dec, 2 2018 @ 07:59 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: Bluntone22
This should be called the brown movement.

It will make energy so expensive that you won't be able to afford to turn on the lights.


It should be called the economy killer or the real Back to Africa Movement. If they do this, we'll shortly all be living subsistence like farmers in Africa because there won't be an economy and no one will be doing more than trying to eek out a bare living, and that will likely be illegal to do too because of the carbon footprint.


Which is (and always has been) the goal of the liberal left on their never ending march toward globalism, socialism, and the new world order. Because in their minds, if one person is needy (even through their own actions), then we ALL should be needy and destitute. How anyone can vote for asshat democrats is beyond me.
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posted on Dec, 2 2018 @ 08:02 PM
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I sure hope this bill gets rejected. My question is where does the collected money go? It is just another tax and the money will be wasted on overpriced purchases from friends of the politicians and agency heads. Fix the problem right, tax the airfairs which are a main source of polution across the country. People would not travel to their relatives if the rates are high, so there would not be nearly as many cars on the roads. Most people will not drive two days there and two days back to go for Christmas dinner. That will lower greenhouse gasses by a high percentage. Tax luxury items like airfare and cruise ship trips. Tax package trips to vegas where airfare is included. Do not tax stuff like heating fuels, electric bills, and fuel for vehicles to get us to work and buy groceries to live. This is a way of taxing the senior citizens on limited incomes, if this goes through, there will be more young not working, the old people will not be able to retire, they will keep working and collect their social security check too.


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posted on Dec, 2 2018 @ 08:03 PM
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This kind of thing is why I hate Democrats.

They are complete assholes and are working for the Globalists.

Evil POS.


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posted on Dec, 2 2018 @ 08:04 PM
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anyone who thinks this is "socialism" is completely dense, this is just repackaged Green-Capitalism, nothing "Radical" about it


pure trash



posted on Dec, 2 2018 @ 08:05 PM
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There is a reason they are quadrupling down on propaganda and in a mad rush to push something through now. Their narrative is getting more exposed as B.S. than ever. And I'm not talking about the actual scientific theory of climate change, but rather the exploitation of it by insane, greedy psychopathic politicians and bureaucrats. Why the science community ever decided to get into bed with these people I will never understand. It will do them and all of us a great disservice in the end.

We should be striving toward clean energy. That is done by applying science to build something better, innovate, progress and grow. Anything that has no other purpose than to destroy serves no purpose and should be rejected on all counts regardless of your hack political party affiliation.



posted on Dec, 2 2018 @ 08:06 PM
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a reply to: XAnarchistX

Nothing capitalist about it.

The government takes and redistributes.



posted on Dec, 2 2018 @ 08:33 PM
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GET YER GUNS DAH COMMIES ARE COMING!


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posted on Dec, 2 2018 @ 08:39 PM
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originally posted by: toysforadults
GET YER GUNS DAH COMMIES ARE COMING!


Scoff all you want, but this is what at least some in the House think is a fair measure. If it were up to them, this would be done to you. I've seen all your threads whining about how you cannot make ends meet.

You want to not make ends meet? This would make sure no one can. Be thankful it won't make it out of the House and if it does, it will get buried in the Senate.
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posted on Dec, 2 2018 @ 08:42 PM
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This will get Trump elected in 2020.

Unbelievable. I mean, sure I use satire and mocked the left and said they wanted to raise taxes, but I never thought they'd be that stupid to come out of the gate with a tax increase.

Especially on the heels of the riots in France.

Do these retards think we don't follow European news?



posted on Dec, 2 2018 @ 08:46 PM
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As usual... yet another reason to never ever vote for the democratic party...

No I don't trust republicans more than democrats by more than a smidgen, cause once the republicans figure out how to repackage this they will submit it under some patriotic sounding name that effectively manages the same thing. No way they let that much potential slush money go untapped.



posted on Dec, 2 2018 @ 08:48 PM
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That's why the asshole republicans might end up passing this crap in the Senate.

But they'll attach it to a VA spending bill and call it "The Freedom Bill For Jesus".




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