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originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: one4all
That very much depends upon where you are.
In the city? Yep. Numbers may indeed be life, as they say. As there are going to be idiots out there that think what is mine is, in reality, theirs. Foolish, and ultimately suicidal, but they'll think it any way.
Out in the sticks? Maybe not so much, but it'd certainly make life easier and safer to have extra eyes, if nothing else.
Planting gardens. Hunting. Fishing. Preserving all that you grow and catch is always easier with extra hands to lend, well, a hand--if only to put it away when done.
Of course, defending that is easier with extra hands, too. Maintenance on the shelter. Taking care of any livestock. All easier with extra hands.
That's one of the first things I'd do, if not the first, get in contact with family and friends.
But under the right circumstances, it's not
Stress will kill you before you know it....unless you have survival skills already instilled in you you MUST find other people ...if we are presupposing that these skills are in place then the scenario is different.....you might be actioning your end game plan....you might be making an immediate effort to store fresh water and food maybe you need to re-stock on a lifesaving medicine before anything else....
It depends on your motivations....I am fully aware that most of my Family are as semi-blinded by this screwed up reality we all share.....most of them cannot see the need to learn skills or to prepare...so....I have been doing it for them....I have spent 40+ years preparing to prepare them without them knowing.....everything from buying gifts that are part of an Everyday Carry and harvesting and using wild plants and herb as medicines....like making the real life connections between the hard data and these wild herbs and medicines so they KNOW WHY...there are 36 copies of 3 different books and each of 36 Bugout bags has copies as well as maps with routes and water sources and directions to cached food and tools,seeds and generic medicines …. and everything needed to egress an urban area to a safer area....there are 4 directions and there are 4 egress maps and each destination has WATER BURIED along the way as per a group of people daily needs every 2 days walk is a water cache........N-S-E-W....there are meeting points there is a role call list in every bag. Every single bag has a letter from me....and a part of this letter is advice ...and that advice is simple....if you wish to travel fast travel alone but if you wish to travel far travel with others....you need people....WE all need people...if we aren't running from or fighting people we NEED people......extra preps have been made to be READY for these new people....FOOD and water cleaning tools are READY for these extra people....water is key and there is a basic water distiller cached at all 4 corners of the Map...who knows where people might end up.Without water we die.For anyone Prepping my advice is REDUNDANCY...people dig stuff up...I swear to god I dont know how it happens but there are people in places you would not believe people would go and they are CURIOUS and OBSERVANT like you would not believe....plus since the advent of game cameras there could literally be people watching you anywhere including what you think is off the normal path....I mean who digs up 30 gallons of water and takes it....but I have had it happen....anyone have any idea how hard it is to hide 30 gallons of water in 16 places and come back every year to replace it....never mind finding places 200 feet or less from a roadway or drivable path to make the switchout. Every 12 months I get tp play commando....I don't even hunt or birdwatch but a lot of people know me as such....LMAO....for the last 10 years harvesting wild foods has been my part of my schtick.....lol...times change….in the 80s I was trapping -snaring Coyotes on the same Farm I now search for wild greens on with permission from the Kids of the people I first met nearly 40 years ago....you need REASONS to be in places you cache things in....you need to know the PEOPLE around these places and be on good terms with them....a lot of people move and property changes hands as do acess rules...you need to build relationships solid enough that if your Family showed up instead of you there could be a chance of some loyalty and help...you have to MICRO-INVEST in many many ways.
I have heard a lot of online stories....but I doubt many of us have spent the hundreds of hours it really takes each year to be even semi-prepared for a real end game disaster....2nd hand stores for Bags and Clothes and boots....the Dollar store for sundries and bits and pieces...survival store sales for water filters and purifiers....the feedlot for 1000s of lbs of dry food....do you have any idea how much space 36 properly sealed and stored boxes of clothing and supplies of even the most basic kind takes up?.....
I dont think the masses will be making it....not considering what I have done and how it now looks to me 40 years down the road.....I am considered to be a survival fanatic by my Family......lol...and I don't even have them half ready yet after 40 years......lol.
I prep for 2 things...the arrival of Nibiru shortly and the Nuclear wars that will likely happen as it nears us all....any rouge Nations who cause friction as Nibiru nears will be vaporised if it seems they are looking to spark a global war...humanity cannot survive Nibiru AND a Global Nuclear war....and TPTB need to keep humanity relevant at all costs...there will be war...Countries that realise they will soon be underwater will want their people to migrate....but TPTB know this is not viable....anyone who rocks the boat will be tossed overboard IMHO...vaped.
Get out of the City whichever direction is best at the time...then go to the meeting places listed in the correct order...when Nibiru arrives there will be no truly safe places only SAFER PLACES....and none are above ground...suffice to say I shall stop now with that...people will need to be underground and know how and why they got there.
And as an aside...in every bugout bag is a back-up plan and explanation and maps as to where TPTB have dug in and hidden their bunkers ….and YES they are near my dam spots....soooooo...if all else fails ….you go to these places....because guess what...TPTB has prepared for many more than themselves....everyone needs help....lol....better a live Butler than a dead Freeman.36 bugout bags filled my pickup box...a half-ton....30 gallons of water is 6 buckets....or a LOT of 2 liter bottles dropped into PVC buried pipes....nothing is as easy as people think....and you gotta have water...yes the devices work yes the filters work yes the purifiers work and yes distillers work so do desalinators which are a MASSIVE EXPENSE.....but....you still need water every single day...and in an emergency when you are travelling light finding cleaning and drinking water for a group could cost you your life.... this topic is a way of life IMHO....but I will say this much it keeps you busy.
originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: one4all
Candidly, I'm not exactly sure how to respond to your post. All due respect, but It reads a bit like a manic collage of thoughts ricocheting around near the bottom of quickly emptying jug of moonshine. LOL.
I guess I'll have to come back later and read it again, but about 5-6 times I had the almost uncontrollable urge to start a response with.... "Well, if you ever come around my neck of the woods and try that, I will....". Then, I just thought better of it and read on.