posted on Dec, 3 2018 @ 04:36 AM
a reply to: BigDave-AR
I actually would not say the bigger of two evil's but Russia is definitely the more potentially dangerous and has become bed fellow's with some
pretty nasty regime's that is a fact BUT taking Ukraine on side we lose the moral high ground, it is one thing to have an adversary, maybe even an
enemy that you know but quite a lot more dangerous to make another enemy your friend when in turn they will poison the whole body.
To be frank the majority of the Ukrainian people are probably decent enough folk but at the moment Ukraine is a very evil nation governed by a
morally inferior and vile government whom must stink to high heaven before God like a giant Nazi turd on the face of the planet.
The problem's with Russia were sown over a very long time and it is also right to point out that it take's two to tango, both sides of that argument
have good and bad and have done good and bad equally, more so Russia during the soviet period but once they came out of it even though today Putin is
in fact a dictatorship - perhaps even a democratically elected one or then again maybe not - an opportunity was missed to bring them closer to the
west and instead because it served certain very powerful vested interests they were pushed into the arm's of China whom they do not even really like
in part because back in the 50's Stalin tried to take over China and bully Mao (two of the dragon's heads fighting one another) but Mao took offense
and sent the Soviet's packing routing there attempted invasion in a short war that most in the west have forgotten - but not the first time the
Chinese have sent a Russian army packing either they once did so using firework's against an imperial Russian army at the very start of the 20th
Paraphi that is a good point about Georgia, the Russian's did use VERY dirty tactic's in that war that amount to war crime's and multiple breaches of
the Geneva Convention.
Now we do also have to remember that it was Putin that called the break up of the former soviet union the greatest geopolitical disaster of all time,
he would do anything to get those areas that Stalin once took control of at the tail end of the second world war back under his own thumb and that
does include committing atrocity's.
So you do make an excellent point, to be fair mine is more ideological since I hate NAZI's full stop and if they were NOT a very big part of the
picture then I would have a lot more sympathy for the Ukraine but sadly they are a very BIG part of the Ukrainian equation.
OccamsRazor04 Another great point but that make's them sound a bit like us in yesteryear and the US today, poking our nose in were we once - and
perhaps still do have - had strong regional influence and of course interests.
So were that point is concerned it is both merited and also unfortunately predictable, Russia is a vast country that much like us with our former
colonies and regional influence around the world still has stakes in those regions' that were formerly under it's control - need's to let them go but
easier said than done when vested interests are at stake - and so end's up interfering in way's that it/they definitely should not be.
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