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White liberals more likely to 'patronize' minorities than conservatives, study finds

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posted on Nov, 30 2018 @ 03:03 PM
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Hi all

This is from this site:
www.washingtontimes.com...


Not sure if this is the right forum, but is anyone but our 'progressive' friends here surprised?

Surprised the Washington Times posted something like this:

'Liberals present themselves as warmer, less competent to minority audiences

Unfiltered: ‘The democratic plantation really is worse than the
plantation I grew up on.’

By Valerie Richardson - The Washington Times - Wednesday, November 28, 2018

White liberals present themselves as less competent when addressing
minorities, while conservatives use the same vocabulary no matter what
the race of their audience, according to a newly released study.

Yale and Princeton researchers found that white Democratic
presidential candidates and self-identified liberals played down their
competence when speaking to minorities, using fewer words that
conveyed accomplishment and more words that expressed warmth.

On the other hand, there were no significant differences in how white
conservatives, including Republican presidential candidates, spoke to
white versus minority audiences.

“White liberals self-present less competence to minorities than to
other Whites — that is, they patronize minorities stereotyped as lower
status and less competent,” according to the study’s abstract.

Cydney Dupree, assistant professor of organizational behavior at the
Yale School of Management, said she was surprised by the findings of
the study, which sought to discover how “well-intentioned whites”
interact with minorities.

“It was kind of an unpleasant surprise to see this subtle but
persistent effect,” Ms. Dupree said. “Even if it’s ultimately
well-intentioned, it could be seen as patronizing.”



The study flies in the face of a standard talking point of the
political left — that white conservatives are racist — while raising
questions about whether liberals are perpetuating racial stereotypes
about blacks being less competent than whites.

The paper, which is slated for publication in the Journal of
Personality and Social Psychology, first examined speeches by
Republican and Democratic presidential candidates to mostly white and
mostly minority audiences dating back 25 years.'




posted on Nov, 30 2018 @ 03:04 PM
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just as bad as each other



posted on Nov, 30 2018 @ 03:09 PM
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Dupree and Fiske suspect that the behavior stems from a liberal person’s desire to connect with other races. One possible reason for the “competence downshift,” as the authors describe it, is that, regardless of race, people tend to downplay their competence when they want to appear likeable and friendly. But it’s also possible that “this is happening because people are using common stereotypes in an effort to get along,” Dupree says.


Why'd you stop your quote right before this?



posted on Nov, 30 2018 @ 03:10 PM
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originally posted by: toysforadults
just as bad as each other


Sorry, who is as bad as what?
If you mean both main parties are as bad as the other that is mostly true but I don't believe Republicans sink as low as Democrats as far as dirty tricks at least based on my study of history, but I certainly may be wrong. Bad people use both parties, it just seems recently (past 25 years) that I see more bad, backwards movements coming from the liberal progressives than from the conservatives.



posted on Nov, 30 2018 @ 03:11 PM
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a reply to: AScrubWhoDied

I think I hit a character limit, sorry.



posted on Nov, 30 2018 @ 03:12 PM
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originally posted by: chris_stibrany
Bad people use both parties, it just seems recently (past 25 years) that I see more bad, backwards movements coming from the liberal progressives than from the conservatives.


That's your bias speaking.


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posted on Nov, 30 2018 @ 03:14 PM
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originally posted by: AScrubWhoDied


Dupree and Fiske suspect that the behavior stems from a liberal person’s desire to connect with other races. One possible reason for the “competence downshift,” as the authors describe it, is that, regardless of race, people tend to downplay their competence when they want to appear likeable and friendly. But it’s also possible that “this is happening because people are using common stereotypes in an effort to get along,” Dupree says.


Why'd you stop your quote right before this?


Yup, using common stereotypes in effort to get along... hence why Hillary faked that southern drawl / preacher voice when speaking at a black church and whips out hot sauce at a black radio station.

I used to get that you speak so well for a black person comment from white liberals all the time...

You know when Joe Biden said that Barack was "articulate and clean..."

This study is why liberals don't even think twice about literally saying black people are too stupid to get ID to vote when making their inane arguments against voter ID.



posted on Nov, 30 2018 @ 03:15 PM
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No it's not actually, it's my reversal of my 'side' based on studying actual data and history. In college 17 years ago I was one of those stupid 'Young Democratic Socialists' for a short time until I did some actual reading and thinking

What;s that old saying about being liberal when you are young etc etc.


a reply to: AScrubWhoDied


edit on 30/11/2018 by chris_stibrany because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 30 2018 @ 03:17 PM
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a reply to: chris_stibrany

I self identify as a black apache helicopter.

Personally, I just get offended when most people speak to me.



posted on Nov, 30 2018 @ 03:18 PM
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a reply to: Edumakated

Or



One possible reason for the “competence downshift,” as the authors describe it, is that, regardless of race, people tend to downplay their competence when they want to appear likeable and friendly.


Can't say one way or the other for sure. Well, you can 'feel' one way or the other, but it's just a feeling.



posted on Nov, 30 2018 @ 03:19 PM
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a reply to: chris_stibrany

Grats for pissing off the right people!


Voter ID



posted on Nov, 30 2018 @ 03:20 PM
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a reply to: chris_stibrany

I'm thinking that saying was referring to being young and broke vs old and [not broke], not speaking towards the shenanigans that goes on.



posted on Nov, 30 2018 @ 03:23 PM
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One of the more racist statements commonly thrown around is "he's well spoken" in regards to a black athlete.

Never heard it about a white athlete.



posted on Nov, 30 2018 @ 03:31 PM
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lol well no S**t



posted on Nov, 30 2018 @ 03:36 PM
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originally posted by: MysticPearl
One of the more racist statements commonly thrown around is "he's well spoken" in regards to a black athlete.

Never heard it about a white athlete.

amen to that man. I have heard that a lot.



posted on Nov, 30 2018 @ 03:42 PM
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a reply to: chris_stibrany

Bogus study made from analyzing campaign speeches. Perhaps interviews with minorities would have yielded more reliable information. Stupid Academics...!



posted on Nov, 30 2018 @ 03:42 PM
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originally posted by: chris_stibrany
The study flies in the face of a standard talking point of the
political left — that white conservatives are racist — while raising
questions about whether liberals are perpetuating racial stereotypes
about blacks being less competent than whites.


What?

The article at least just specifies "minorities" in general... not just black people who's first language is english.

I've got a family member who has a Thai wife and he always speaks to her in broken english, simply because it allows her to better understand what his saying.

Likewise, I work with a few immigrants, who's first language isn't english... sometimes it just makes for a more effective communication if you speak to them in a basic manner.

Unlike, conservatives... who are more likely to talk to everyone as if english was their first language... then get all agitated and start carrying on about how their culture is under attack, cause the clerk at 7/11 didn't understand what you where saying.



posted on Nov, 30 2018 @ 03:44 PM
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Professional spin you have on that ball there.


Talking slower or in broken English is not the same as using more condescending language at all.

a reply to: Subaeruginosa



posted on Nov, 30 2018 @ 03:45 PM
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a reply to: AScrubWhoDied

No, I've never personally felt it helped one way or the other to try to appear dumb when I talk to someone.

Do you feel like it helps you get liked to seem stupid to other people who don't know you?

After all, sooner or later your actual level of competence is going to have to come out, and then if they feel overwhelmed by the power of your mind (or whatever), the jig is going to be up. Best be who you are from the start and play honest about it.
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posted on Nov, 30 2018 @ 03:47 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: AScrubWhoDied
Do you feel like it helps you get liked to seem stupid to other people who don't know you?



No. But I also don't like football. Many people do.



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