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British Government on the Verge of Collapse.

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posted on Nov, 29 2018 @ 02:31 PM
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a reply to: Propagandalf




Right, and a drug addict is not an addict because he can quit doing drugs at any time.

Deep , but irrelevant.

Britain is a Sovereign Nation , to deny it makes no sense.




posted on Nov, 29 2018 @ 02:48 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

You think if I said to an officer of the law "AM drove me to it!" He wouldn't buy it?

It's the perfect excuse, for just about anything.



posted on Nov, 29 2018 @ 02:55 PM
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originally posted by: and14263
You think if I said to an officer of the law "AM drove me to it!" He wouldn't buy it?

It's the perfect excuse, for just about anything.


He'd have to be a Mason, which most of the cops in the UK are, so you'll be fine.



posted on Nov, 29 2018 @ 03:01 PM
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originally posted by: and14263
a reply to: CriticalStinker

This is exactly why I come here. Brentrance is a word I’ll be stealing from now. Great work.

On the subject of joining the US... that is rabbit hole I would love to get into, if only I were on my keyboard and not my phone! I would not be averse to the idea.



We'll start with Brentrance, and if it doesn't catch as much traction as we want....

We'll form the TU (Trans-Atlantic Union). The currency will be Transos (LBGTQ friendly).

The mode of transportation for cheap free movement will be the upcoming Titanic 2.

We'll create a useless body of government that we can send representatives to so they can argue.

Only question is, who else can join in on the (soon to be failed) experiment?



posted on Nov, 29 2018 @ 03:02 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Double whammy then. If he doesn't fall for the stress factor maybe the masonic conection will work.

Them bobbies ain't no masons guv, thems wrong 'uns, wrong 'uns I tells ya.



posted on Nov, 29 2018 @ 03:08 PM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

I don't think we'll need anyone else. With the transos (like a ¥ but a T) and a doomed boat full all manner of sexual persuasions, it's bound to prosper.



posted on Nov, 29 2018 @ 03:17 PM
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originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin




How do you think its going to go down?

I think May will lose the vote on the 11th and face a vote of No Confidence which she will also lose ... she will then be taken to the Tower of London to await execution on charges of Treason ( OK perhaps not the last part)

A leadership made up of Brexiteers is the only way forward for a real Brexit.


I agree, but the Brexiteers bottled it during the last leadership competition and allowed a remainer to steer the Brexit negotiations.

The U.K has a massive trade deficit with the E.U and whilst we will probably be made to suffer in the initial stages of a no deal, long term we will weather the storm and the E.U will be the losers.

Remember when no deal was better than a bad deal? Theresa May doesn't.

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posted on Nov, 29 2018 @ 03:26 PM
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originally posted by: Cobaltic1978

Remember when no deal was better than a bad deal? Theresa May doesn't.



That is a very good point, I remember that was her catchphrase for a couple of weeks.



posted on Nov, 29 2018 @ 03:32 PM
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Deep , but irrelevant.

Britain is a Sovereign Nation , to deny it makes no sense.


Britain is not a sovereign nation so long as it is beholden to the authority of the EU, and no amount of casuistry will change that.

sovereign | ˈsɒvrɪn |

adjective
1 possessing supreme or ultimate power: in modern democracies the people's will is in theory sovereign.
• [attributive] (of a nation or its affairs) acting or done independently and without outside interference: a sovereign, democratic republic.
• [attributive] archaic or literary possessing royal power and status: our most sovereign lord the King.
2 [attributive] dated very good or effective: a sovereign remedy for all ills.



posted on Nov, 29 2018 @ 04:05 PM
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a reply to: djz3ro

I agree and do not want free movement to be stopped for valid people, we have a proud workforce from many nations in the UK and I hope that continues but we will just pay "tax" to the french, money talks as usual, so much for that £350 million for the NHS



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posted on Nov, 29 2018 @ 04:16 PM
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a reply to: Propagandalf

Ohhh hi les was wondering when you would be back.

The U.K. is a sovereign land, but just you keep pretending otherwise, I know how you love to antagonise spouting this kind of BS

Love the new avatar buddy!
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posted on Nov, 29 2018 @ 04:47 PM
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They make it seem so hard just to carry out and respect democracy

Leave on WTO No Deal, the EU will be back asking for a deal in no time, they can’t afford not to more than the UK

Absolutely pathetic

A globalist remainder in charge throwing everything and the kitchen sink at reversing Brexit



posted on Nov, 29 2018 @ 04:56 PM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: Propagandalf

Ohhh hi les was wondering when you would be back.

The U.K. is a sovereign land, but just you keep pretending otherwise, I know how you love to antagonise spouting this kind of BS

Love the new avatar buddy!


How can it be sovereign when VAT is set by the EU? We can elect people to raise it, but we can't elect ANYONE who can get rid of it because the EU rules prohibit that.

For all those people banging on about how the EU looks after folks, they sure do love their regressive taxes.



posted on Nov, 29 2018 @ 05:08 PM
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What they should do, is, fill the media with scare stories. Lead the British to believe that the country will collapse, their money worthless, and they will be attacked from all directions. Then they could send the public back for a revote. If that doesn't work, they could bomb their own country, and blame it on the exit, then do another vote. They could just keep increasing the pressure until they get what they want. That is the Progressive way.....

Give me Liberty, of give me death!

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
So we all know by now that a few years ago we Brits went to the poles and by a margin of only 1.7% (just over a million votes) decided that it would be a good idea to divorce from our European cousins and go it alone. Two years down the line and we are walking with every increasing speed to our demise as a nation state and are now faced with the devastating consequences of that decision.

Just about every week we see some kind of new news about the devastation that Brexit will cause, we had the recent news about a predicted 8% reduction in economic growth plunging us into the deepest of the deep recessions. Some are even talking about economic collapse. Then there is the issue of the Irish boarder, we have the NHS stockpiling medication, there are doubts about security, there could be chaos at the border. The list really does go on and while some are a little optimistic it’s not looking good.

Our options out of this mess are limited, in two years the best May and her government can come up with is two resignations from Brexit ministers, one foreign ministers’ resignation and a massive backbench backlash against a deal that is in pretty much no one’s interests. Regardless if you voted leave or remain one thing is very clear the deal that May and her government have put together is awful, it’s never going to pass in parliament and that’s going to create some problems for us Brits.

If it fails to pass then there isn’t really any time left to strike up a new deal and the EU are basically saying “this is the best you’re going to get, take it or leave it”. The simple maths of parliament clearly demonstrates that May has about as much chance of getting this through parliament as the “Ban on Tea imports act of 2014”. So if it fails to pass parliament she can’t commit the UK into agreement with the EU’s plan and….well….that’s not good.

So a few options.

Let’s have a no-confidence vote and boot out May, put Boris in charge. Only that won’t fix anything because we still don’t have the time to renegotiate a new deal so all it would do is leave us with a baffoon of a PM leading the country into the worst crisis we have faced since WWII.

Okay then so what else, well we could have a general election but that creates the same problems as PM Broris taking over.

Right how about we get the public to decide, send them back to the ballot box and ask what they want. Well that takes time that we don’t have because we only have 120 days left to fix this mess.

Right then lets get extreme. Lets just acknowledge that the Breixt vote was only ever an advisory referendum and as such revoke article 50 or delay its implementation until we can get a better deal. Emmmm…that might not work either., its also going to create massive political upheaval in the UK, not to mention that the EU has not only said this is the best deal we will get but they have also been arguing that we can’t take it back. Basically, the EU courts have apparently been discussing this and in their view not only might there not be a legal avenue for this but it would also lead to lots of instability in the EU in the long run and therefore it wouldn’t be in their interests.

So what does that leave us with…..?

**INSERT YOUR FAVOURITE FLAVOUR OF DOOM PORN HERE**


Me, I go for the full on economic and political collapse within the first year

Its strange to me that nobody seems to be talking much about this, the fact that if you boil this all down your government is on the verge of a total collapse. We seem to have found ourselves backed into this impossible corner, we are in the ultimate catch 22 with no way out and its all going to come to a head very soon

11/12/18 is the date.

How do you think its going to go down?



posted on Nov, 29 2018 @ 05:15 PM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: Propagandalf
The U.K. is a sovereign land, but just you keep pretending otherwise, I know how you love to antagonise spouting this kind of BS


Simply repeating the proposition doesn't make it any more true. Sorry, pal.



A total of 52,741 laws* have been introduced in the UK as a result of EU legislation since 1990, according to the Legal business of Thomson Reuters, the world’s leading source of intelligent information for businesses and professionals.

The figures illustrate the scale of the challenge lying ahead for the UK government, as it overhauls the EU’s influence over UK law, following the EU referendum vote on 23 June 2016.


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sovereign | ˈsɒvrɪn |

adjective
1 possessing supreme or ultimate power: in modern democracies the people's will is in theory sovereign.
• [attributive] (of a nation or its affairs) acting or done independently and without outside interference: a sovereign, democratic republic.
• [attributive] archaic or literary possessing royal power and status: our most sovereign lord the King.

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posted on Nov, 29 2018 @ 05:21 PM
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It's an easy path to take.

"Thanks for your latest offer of take it or leave it chaps, we've decided to leave it. Bye."

As usual we see the hypocrites out in force - those that claim that 'project fear' persuaded people to vote to leave, yet here they are every single damn day with their doom and gloom predictions. "verge of collapse"... lol.

Pathetic cry babies still can't accept the vote. Props for changing the record slightly from "2nd referendum" to "let's just ignore the vote". At least it's original, however scummy.
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posted on Nov, 29 2018 @ 05:29 PM
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Yeah, we're so sovereign, Brussels tells me which bin I have to put my rubbish in and dictates to my local council when they can pick it up. My "always on" music system turns off on it's own because Brussels decided we needed to save the planet. I don't even have sovereignty over my own sodding castle. The fascists even managed to cross that sacred line.

I say **** 'em and if they'd like another war, they'll get their arses kicked again. 3rd time's a charm.
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posted on Nov, 29 2018 @ 05:37 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Yeah, we're so sovereign, Brussels tells me which bin I have to put my rubbish in and dictates to my local council when they can pick it up. My "always on" music system turns off on it's own because Brussels decided we needed to save the planet. I don't even have sovereignty over my own sodding castle. The fascists even managed to cross that sacred line.

I say **** 'em and if they'd like another war, they'll get their arses kicked again. 3rd time's a charm.



Actually that's your local council that sets the rules on what bin you put your rubbish in. And it's your local council alone that decides when they can pick it up. The rules are different in pretty much every local council in the land. At least if the EU set those rules, they'd be universal across the country, and not different in every bleedin' town and village.

Your always on music system turns off on its own not really because Brussels decided that, but because manufacturers thought consumers might appreciate slightly lower electricity bills.

The EU is not a fascist organisation. You voted for them. Well maybe you didn't bother to vote for them, but we have elections where you can vote for them.

And I'm not terribly aware of any EU regulations that infringe anything you might choose to do within your own castle either.



posted on Nov, 29 2018 @ 05:37 PM
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We won't collapse OtherSideOfTheCoin, the bankers and corporation would have nowhere to do business should London town go down in any kind of significant manner.

Which is not to say that after Brexit there will not be some seriously hard times ahead for the average British citizen.

The bastards with there offshore bank accounts and corporate headquarters on some equatorial island will ride out the storm just fine whilst the rest of us make do with far less for the foreseeable future.

Brexit, austerity, immigration, the full shebang really, it's all to plan and there will be monies and profit to be had by the wrong sort of people.



posted on Nov, 29 2018 @ 05:41 PM
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1930s Germany would have loved this sort of power over Europe.

Why you guys thought the EU was ever a good idea, so soon after ww2, is beyond me.



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