It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

British Government on the Verge of Collapse.

page: 27
23
<< 24  25  26    28  29  30 >>

log in

join
share:

posted on Dec, 11 2018 @ 05:48 AM
link   
a reply to: Soloprotocol


Since the Brexit vote was so close may i propose we just fight it out? A good old fashioned punch up.

Remainers against Bretiteers. Taps aff situation. face pummelling permitted.

Howz about St Paddy's day 2019? Then we can all go for a pint of the black stuff together afterwards. I'm in.


Deal me in as well, what a great idea!

Bollocks to Paddy's Day, can't wait that long.
How about Black Eye Friday?




posted on Dec, 11 2018 @ 05:53 AM
link   

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: Soloprotocol


Since the Brexit vote was so close may i propose we just fight it out? A good old fashioned punch up.

Remainers against Bretiteers. Taps aff situation. face pummelling permitted.

Howz about St Paddy's day 2019? Then we can all go for a pint of the black stuff together afterwards. I'm in.


Deal me in as well, what a great idea!

Bollocks to Paddy's Day, can't wait that long.
How about Black Eye Friday?

Haha I missed that post by Solo!
Yeh I'm up for just a meet up to slug it out, remainers V brexiteers lmfao, winners decide haha.
No stamping on heads allowed though, don't wanna kill a remainer, but a decent fight lol.



posted on Dec, 11 2018 @ 05:53 AM
link   
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin



...
meh am a little bit more optimistic I don't think there would be riots.


Really?

You keep on saying 'let the people decide' - we did, we voted for Brexit!

The only question asked in a second referendum should be;
Do you vote for the government recommended deal,
Yes or No.

If Yes - self-explanatory.
If No - No Deal.

Pretty simple.



posted on Dec, 11 2018 @ 05:53 AM
link   

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

What astonishes me is how badly May's Government are screwing everything up. Governments are not normally found to be in contempt of Parliament. What else are they holding back?



I personally don't see how anyone can come up with a decent deal or do things better. People like Boris don't seem to understand legally binding agreements. They don't seem to understand why a hard border is unworkable. Boris in fact doesn't really understand very much and when called, he makes things up - there are so many documented cases of this it is almost unreal. And yet people seem to think someone like him should take over?

And then there is Comrade Corbyn's lot - without a single iota of economic sense between the lot of them. He wants a crack running things? And yet his party can't get a clear lead in the polls at a time of maximum division within the UK.

So, really, who is going to negotiate a better deal?

I feel sorry for May. This is the ultimate political poisoned chalice. At least she is trying to be a grown up about it.



posted on Dec, 11 2018 @ 06:13 AM
link   

originally posted by: ScepticScot

The ability to change your mind of one of the fundamental pillars of democracy. If the majority of people now don't want to leave th EU the carrying on and leaving regardless would be incredibly undemocratic.



Really?

What IS undemocratic is that the original democratic vote has not yet

been implemented.



posted on Dec, 11 2018 @ 06:20 AM
link   
a reply to: Flavian

I have very little regard and respect for the vast majority of current politicians.

This shambles has once and for all shown them up to be the amoral, egotistical, self-centred, self-promoting scumbags that they really are.

If ever there was a moment since WWII when they should put personal advancement and party politics behind them and work together in the interests and well being of this country it is now.
But they can't help themselves and they constantly persist in their petty games of bickering, cat-calling and seeking to score points off each other.

Party politics will be the ruination of this country.

When Cameron cowardly threw in the towel May stepped up to the plate - one can only surmise as to her motivations.
If ever there was a political hot potato it was Brexit.

But she did nothing, literally nothing, for a full year.

The deal she has eventually come back with is the very worst of both worlds.
I'm beginning to think this was very much by design.

But as you say; could the alternatives have done any better?
Probably not.

And that is a very damning indictment on British politicians and the out-of-date and no longer fit for purpose system they seek to maintain at all costs.....even to the detriment of this nation and its people.

Its time for change.



posted on Dec, 11 2018 @ 08:20 AM
link   
a reply to: Freeborn

Can't say i disagree about our modern politicians mate. It seems like a long time ago that you could completely disagree with an MP's politics but still have respect for them because they actually stood for their principles. Now it is nearly all self serving narcissism.

The only way we will get away from this is to have mass civil disobediance at the next election - as in "none of the above" and then writing on the ballots it's because they serve themselves instead of us, like they are supposed to. It won't happen though. Groups like Momentum would be well up for it in public and in private they would instead be getting everyone to vote Labour!

The thing is, i don't really see how else we can effect the type of change we all want to see in this country. And i don't mean a violent revelution - we are not built like that as a nation. Most people just want a nice quiet life and people that do what they are supposed to do.........



posted on Dec, 11 2018 @ 08:27 AM
link   
a reply to: Flavian

We need urgent reform mate.....and we won't get that unless we express our dis-satisfaction with the current system.

I could waffle on for hours about what sort of reform I personally would like to see, but that's irrelevant.....until we agree on the need for change and start applying pressure on TPTB nothing will change and the status quo will remain....along with the many injustices that go with it.



posted on Dec, 11 2018 @ 08:30 AM
link   
a reply to: Freeborn

Honestly mate, i'd simply settle for politicians that serve their country instead of themselves. That would inevitably lead to more societal changes without the need for any of the more nefarious activities.



posted on Dec, 11 2018 @ 08:31 AM
link   

edit on 11-12-2018 by Flavian because: double bubble post



posted on Dec, 11 2018 @ 08:51 AM
link   
a reply to: Flavian

The way things are that simply isn't going to happen.

We need to establish the electorates authority over Parliament and re-enforce the principle that MP's are answerable and accountable to us before anything else be it party, religious or socio-economic allegiance.



posted on Dec, 11 2018 @ 09:53 AM
link   
a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

Hey CCG your in Cornwall aren't you? Whats going on?

Read in the papers today the French fleet is invading......


Tensions are escalating off the coast of Cornwall - following the biggest
invasion of French trawlers into UK waters. Conflict arose after around 16
foreign crew swept in to catch sea bass just yards from the shore.Mr Loft of
Plymouth said "there will be conflict, this is now becoming a joke, rubbing
our noses in it.
The French have invaded our shorelines and British waters.
Mr Loft said he was livid at the blatant flagrant disregard for the law.
Tensions have been building between British and French fishermen for months


Macron said they would and we haven't even left the EU yet.

As ATS's eyes and ears in that part of the world .... have you been asleep.



posted on Dec, 11 2018 @ 10:15 AM
link   

originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: ScepticScot

LMAO, Changing your mind isn't even a pillar of democracy, certainly not a fundamental one.

The fundamental pillars of democracy are equity, representation, freedom and justice.

What you suggest is the most instable form of government one could ever invent. Where you just vote on things endlessly and whipsaw back and forth. It's amazing how sore of losers you guys are.


I assume the Whigs are still in government then?

Stop with the pointless hyperbole. Having another referendum is not the same as having constant referendums and instability.


edit on 11-12-2018 by ScepticScot because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 11 2018 @ 08:55 PM
link   
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin




posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 07:51 AM
link   
Here's hoping Brexit collapses too



posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 07:56 AM
link   
a reply to: Shminkee Pinkee

Why?

Hope your Chalfonts arent playing you up.



posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 08:13 AM
link   
a reply to: eletheia




Hey CCG your in Cornwall aren't you? Whats going on?

He's probably away trying to work out how much damage his vote to leave the EU has cost Cornwall.

And the winner, by a landslide, of The UK's largest EU Subsidy Junky, is.





posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 08:23 AM
link   
a reply to: Soloprotocol



Whats any of that to do with this.......



Read in the papers today the French fleet is invading......

Tensions are escalating off the coast of Cornwall - following the biggest
invasion of French trawlers into UK waters. Conflict arose after around 16
foreign crew swept in to catch sea bass just yards from the shore.Mr Loft of
Plymouth said "there will be conflict, this is now becoming a joke, rubbing
our noses in it.
The French have invaded our shorelines and British waters.
Mr Loft said he was livid at the blatant flagrant disregard for the law.
Tensions have been building between British and French fishermen for months

Macron said they would and we haven't even left the EU yet.



Tantamount o a declaration of war!?



posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 08:34 AM
link   
a reply to: eletheia



Tantamount o a declaration of war!?


Yeah, and we're going to go to war over some Sea Bass. Drama Queen.



posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 08:46 AM
link   

originally posted by: Soloprotocol
a reply to: eletheia



Tantamount o a declaration of war!?


Yeah, and we're going to go to war over some Sea Bass. Drama Queen.


You can take our bass but you'll never take our Girders!


Oh sorry, right, it's Cornwall: You can take our bass but you'll never take our pasties!




top topics



 
23
<< 24  25  26    28  29  30 >>

log in

join