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originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: djz3ro
LOL way to jump into a conversation and make your ignorance known. I don't care what your "gun crime" statistics are. Here are the facts:
1) You are 2.5x more likely to get raped in the UK compared to the US
2) You are 25% more likely to get murdered in the UK than you are in the US
3) The violent crime rate in the UK is up over 50% over the last two years
4) The violent crime rate in the US is up less than 5% over the last two years
In just about every way the UK is far more dangerous than the US, despite your "gun crime" statistics.
But the entire point of my post about you fools giving up your weapons was that you have no recourse against your government who is turning tyrannical. So whether or not your gun crime is up or down or whatever, that has zero bearing on your ability to affect change on your government through force, they have monopolized the force and it's now a one way street. You are nothing more than a subject. You certainly are not a free man. Your countries government doesn't respect the democratic process and has attempted to undo the brexit vote, despite it being the will of the people. Enjoy.
Did you make those stats up yourself?
You are 4x more likely to be murdered in the US than the UK with the difference almost entirely made up from murders involving a firearm.
originally posted by: username74
a reply to: djz3ro
if people have a side arm for home defense. (long guns are for outside)
no public carry !
( i think they used to be legal in a lockbox in the carboot.)
break in will drop massively.
a psych test.
compulsory training.
6 month assessment.
employment and housing necessary.
whats the problem?
and if you heard that backstory to dunblane its pretty clear the situation was manipulated.
originally posted by: djz3ro
originally posted by: username74
a reply to: djz3ro
if people have a side arm for home defense. (long guns are for outside)
no public carry !
( i think they used to be legal in a lockbox in the carboot.)
break in will drop massively.
a psych test.
compulsory training.
6 month assessment.
employment and housing necessary.
whats the problem?
and if you heard that backstory to dunblane its pretty clear the situation was manipulated.
It's not like it's impossible to get a firearm in the UK though, I could get a licence very easily, I just couldn't afford a gun. I even need a licence for a low powered Air Rifle in Scotland, which I absolutely don't agree with and is one of my issues with my party (The SNP)