So much for Global Warming

originally posted by: StoneCircles

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: hunamongyou

no you have to believe the scientists not politicians.

Conveniently leave out how YOUR scientists have been caught time and again falsifying the data, erasing raw temperature data, making false claims time and again which they had to remake every year.

Plenty of scientists disagree with your "belief' in AGW.

show me a climatologist who disagrees with AGW who is NOT on the payroll of an oil company. Go ahead, I am legit interested

Actually literally ALL of the climatologists are on the payroll of special interests.

Oil companies top the list...FOREIGN oil companies from places like Saudi Arabia who want OUR industries shut down.

Your average intelligence as to the real agendas of control are present in all universities..total bias towards certain issues and science is totally owned by big money on all fronts.....whether or not the scientists know it or not...they are largely fools that are NOT allowed to follow the best protocols...NOT allowed to ever look for other causes of anything.

Basically mindless drones that believe they have something to offer...they offer NOTHING.

originally posted by: OneBigMonkeyToo
a reply to: turbonium1

Obvious troll is obvious.

As you well know, the science indicating that the climate is changing is based on past evidence that the climate has changed. Try googling 'ice ages' and the origin of coal.

And none of what you just mentioned is proof that AGW is happening.

originally posted by: StoneCircles
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Dr. Giaever has not published any work in the area of climate science.

Dr. Reid has not published any work in the area of climate science.

that leaves Dr. John Christy, I'll get to him later

Ironic how you first just ask for ONE climatologist who disagrees with AGW... Then when not just one climatologist, but others were given to you, you made up another excuse... "Oh no, they have to publish papers in Climatology/climate change"... You mean papers which are paid by grants which demand agreement with the AGW claim?...

The fact is people like you will never change your minds because the religion that AGW is has been brainwashed into your psyche and you will make any excuses not to accept any rational thinking that disagrees with "your religion."

Like always, instead of actually discussing the argument, "AGW religious lunatics" tend to attack anyone and everyone who dare disagree with "your religion."

a reply to: TheRedneck

Not only are papers that agree with AGW, even when such argument is just presented as "opinion" in most papers which claim AGW is occurring, but like you mentioned "anyone who writes a paper which agrees with the AGW claim is rewarded with grants." The AGWers start always with the "false assumption" that "it must be CO2 that causes most of the warming", and such "assumptions" ignore the fact that the climate is controlled and affected by a myriad of natural causes which we still do not comprehend completely. Yet despite the fact that most of the computer models, 95% of them at least, are wrong and even thou the couple which are right fall into the margin of error, the AGW religious crowd continue to believe in their models even when they have been shown to be wrong.

The climate of Earth is changing, but we must look not only at Earth but the entire solar system and the galaxy we are moving through as factors that affect the climate of planets like Earth.

As I have written in the past, imo the AGW crowd simply can't fathom that there are so many natural variables that affect the climate that is nearly impossible for us to know what the climate will do. In fact the AGW crowd need to believe that it is mankind who is causing these changes, because otherwise they would have to accept that we have no control whatsoever in what the climate does. To the AGW at large they cannot accept this because they need to believe "they can control the climate," and that is the reason they can't accept any evidence that contradicts "the religion that AGW is."

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

the problems with their models are because they do not include the global electric circuit and its interaction with the sun and other planets.
the electric or plasma model is the new paradigm.
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