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Trump may have just royally screwed himself

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posted on Nov, 27 2018 @ 09:49 PM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

LMAO you guys are so gullible. The guardian has walked that story back quite a bit. Wikileaks has a 100% accuracy rate. If they say assange never met manafort, you can pretty well take it to the bank.

I bet they have zero evidence at all. Both manafort and assange have denied ever meeting. So either something so monumental happened in these meetings that wikileaks is willing to risk their credibility to deny them even happening (which they could just say: "yeah, those meetings had nothing to do with russia/hillary/dnc" and that would mitigate any evidence of the meeting happening as being damning) or its fake news. I guarantee the latter.
edit on 27-11-2018 by Dfairlite because: (no reason given)




posted on Nov, 27 2018 @ 09:56 PM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

I can tell you guys what's most likely to be occurring:

The Mueller witch hunt has been a life insurance policy on the deep state. Trump has threatened to kill them with declassification. He is getting closer by the day. The deep state is prepping the insurance policy with some big fake news.

Declas = jail time
Insurance policy = political hit jobs

If trump is going to do it he has to do it now (in the next few months) so the political fallout is long gone by 2020. What these stories are is a last ditch negotiation effort by the deep state to stop trump from killing them.



posted on Nov, 27 2018 @ 10:25 PM
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Well, looks like Marcy Wheeler was correct. Breaking news:


WASHINGTON — A lawyer for Paul Manafort, the president’s onetime campaign chairman, repeatedly briefed President Trump’s lawyers on his client’s discussions with federal investigators after Mr. Manafort agreed to cooperate with the special counsel, according to one of Mr. Trump’s lawyers and two other people familiar with the conversations.

The arrangement was highly unusual and inflamed tensions with the special counsel’s office when prosecutors discovered it after Mr. Manafort began cooperating two months ago, the people said.


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It seems Manafort was informing Trump about Muellers investigation through his lawyers.

Uh oh.




posted on Nov, 27 2018 @ 10:31 PM
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originally posted by: underwerks
Well, looks like Marcy Wheeler was correct. Breaking news:


WASHINGTON — A lawyer for Paul Manafort, the president’s onetime campaign chairman, repeatedly briefed President Trump’s lawyers on his client’s discussions with federal investigators after Mr. Manafort agreed to cooperate with the special counsel, according to one of Mr. Trump’s lawyers and two other people familiar with the conversations.

The arrangement was highly unusual and inflamed tensions with the special counsel’s office when prosecutors discovered it after Mr. Manafort began cooperating two months ago, the people said.


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It seems Manafort was informing Trump about Muellers investigation through his lawyers.

Uh oh.



I don't understand Drudge's headline. "Mueller Cornered?"

What does he mean by that?



posted on Nov, 27 2018 @ 10:43 PM
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a reply to: underwerks

LOL doesn't sound like she was right at all. Sounds like she was dead wrong!

Wasn't the contention that they flipped the script and fed manafort false information for trump to put on his questionnaire? Yet this contradicts that narrative wholly.



The arrangement was highly unusual and inflamed tensions with the special counsel’s office when prosecutors discovered it after Mr. Manafort began cooperating two months ago, the people said.


Also you left this part out of your quoting for some reason:



While Downing’s discussions with the president’s team violated no laws


So I guess it's not all that illegal to "have a mole in a federal investigation!" LMFAO, you guys are so hilarious to watch read the news. You see the weirdest stuff and draw the craziest conclusions.
edit on 27-11-2018 by Dfairlite because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 27 2018 @ 10:48 PM
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a reply to: Tempter

Basically mueller has nowhere to go. Trump knows too much about what mueller has (you can bet manafort isn't the only one who has been briefing the presidents team). Plus they couldn't get manafort to compose some testimony for them, all while trump knows they were attempting to suborn perjury. The investigation is basically screwed over because they're dirty cops and they've been playing dirty and they got caught.



posted on Nov, 27 2018 @ 10:53 PM
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originally posted by: Tempter

originally posted by: underwerks
Well, looks like Marcy Wheeler was correct. Breaking news:


WASHINGTON — A lawyer for Paul Manafort, the president’s onetime campaign chairman, repeatedly briefed President Trump’s lawyers on his client’s discussions with federal investigators after Mr. Manafort agreed to cooperate with the special counsel, according to one of Mr. Trump’s lawyers and two other people familiar with the conversations.

The arrangement was highly unusual and inflamed tensions with the special counsel’s office when prosecutors discovered it after Mr. Manafort began cooperating two months ago, the people said.


Link

It seems Manafort was informing Trump about Muellers investigation through his lawyers.

Uh oh.



I don't understand Drudge's headline. "Mueller Cornered?"

What does he mean by that?


it means checkmate
edit on 27-11-2018 by Stormdancer777 because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 27 2018 @ 10:58 PM
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originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: Tempter

Basically mueller has nowhere to go. Trump knows too much about what mueller has (you can bet manafort isn't the only one who has been briefing the presidents team). Plus they couldn't get manafort to compose some testimony for them, all while trump knows they were attempting to suborn perjury. The investigation is basically screwed over because they're dirty cops and they've been playing dirty and they got caught.


So just to sum this up, You are ok with the Trump administration obstructing justice? You are completely ok with them knowingly attempting to mislead an ongoing investigation? If Trump was innocent why would he care about this investigation?

It doesn't matter what justification you put behind it because breaking the law is breaking the law. You can't say I'm not guilty of murder because that guy also committed murder.

Really?



posted on Nov, 27 2018 @ 11:14 PM
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originally posted by: underwerks
Well, looks like Marcy Wheeler was correct. Breaking news:


WASHINGTON — A lawyer for Paul Manafort, the president’s onetime campaign chairman, repeatedly briefed President Trump’s lawyers on his client’s discussions with federal investigators after Mr. Manafort agreed to cooperate with the special counsel, according to one of Mr. Trump’s lawyers and two other people familiar with the conversations.

The arrangement was highly unusual and inflamed tensions with the special counsel’s office when prosecutors discovered it after Mr. Manafort began cooperating two months ago, the people said.


Link

It seems Manafort was informing Trump about Muellers investigation through his lawyers.

Uh oh.



"according to one of Mr. Trump’s lawyers and two other people familiar with the conversations. "

Shurrrrrrr🤣



posted on Nov, 27 2018 @ 11:16 PM
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a reply to: underwerks

What crimes?... i find it ironic that Mueller and the democrats in the witch hunt NEVER state "what lies" people like Manafort, or Genm. Flynn have stated...

Show us "the lies" instead of using "left-wing speculation without evidence" as if it was evidence...

This left-wing lady makes claims without ANY EVIDENCE, and like always the left jump to conclusions claiming "this is evidence, we got Trump."

This is nothing more than a witch hunt... The Mueller team, and Mueller himself has been shown to put innocent people in jail. But leftists like the OP don't give a crap that people are simply being "indicted" for their political opinion... That is the "true crime" that is happening in the U.S. thanks to the left...



edit on 27-11-2018 by ElectricUniverse because: add and correct comment.



posted on Nov, 27 2018 @ 11:18 PM
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a reply to: BlackJackal

Just to sum this up, you are ok with dirty cops suborning perjury?

ETA: Why would they need to do that if they had a case?
edit on 27-11-2018 by Dfairlite because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 27 2018 @ 11:27 PM
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BTW, op...what do you have to say about the fact that Hillary's friends/democrats have been given immunity for committing the same alleged crime committed by Manafort?...



...
"The five individuals identified in the motions at issue are third parties who have not been charged in this matter, and who have not been identified publicly with the case," Mueller's team argued in a filing asking for that sealing order.

"Disclosing the motions would reveal those individuals involvement in the investigation and the trial, thereby creating the risk of their undue harassment."
...

www.cnbc.com...

In other words, because they are friends with Hillary, and are democrat they were given immunity such as "Tony Podesta"...



edit on 27-11-2018 by ElectricUniverse because: correct comment.



posted on Nov, 27 2018 @ 11:36 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

OP couldn't care less about justice or truth. OP is after one thing: trump. Why? OP is brainwashed by his TV.



posted on Nov, 27 2018 @ 11:41 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Rudy confirmed it. It's absolutely true. Of course, the conclusions drawn by underwerks and other leftys are so far out from reality it's laughable. This is a huge trump win.



posted on Nov, 27 2018 @ 11:45 PM
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originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: BlackJackal

Just to sum this up, you are ok with dirty cops suborning perjury?

ETA: Why would they need to do that if they had a case?


Good job not answering the question. You know how you avoid a perjury trap? You don’t lie, it’s that simple. In order to get charged with perjury you must knowingly and willfully tell a lie and the prosecutor must have solid evidence that you are lying. There is no trap to it at all, Corsi lied, plain and simple.

You know all those emails he deleted? More than likely he was asked about something from those emails and he lied. However, Mueller probably was able to get the info in those emails from another source. Point is it must be willful and knowingly otherwise it will not stand in court.

So now you are ok with the Trump admin committing a crime?
edit on 27-11-2018 by BlackJackal because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 27 2018 @ 11:47 PM
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originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: xuenchen

Rudy confirmed it. It's absolutely true. Of course, the conclusions drawn by underwerks and other leftys are so far out from reality it's laughable. This is a huge trump win.


Huge win for Trump? What universe do you live in?



posted on Nov, 27 2018 @ 11:49 PM
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a reply to: BlackJackal

I don't think you understand what suborning perjury is. I wasn't talking about trump, I was talking about manafort. They wanted manafort to commit perjury to get trump (these same prosecutors got caught doing the same stuff in many previous cases).

ETA: Suborning perjury is when a prosecutor (mueller's team in this case) tries to get a witness to make things up and lie in their testimony so that they can put someone else behind bars. Now if you see the story about them accusing manafort of lying to them you'll understand why they did that. But maybe you won't, so let me lay it out for you. Manafort wouldn't make stuff up, so they were trying to pull his plea deal by claiming he was lying to them. Trump has spelled all this out over the last few months in various tweets. It culminated today with the tweet about ruining people's lives for refusing to lie.
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posted on Nov, 27 2018 @ 11:51 PM
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a reply to: BlackJackal

Because this confirms that trump has known every move mueller was making, probably since the beginning, but at very least, shortly after the first indictments rolled out. Also, they have mueller's team caught suborning perjury. Now some dirty cops can go to jail. Buh bye mueller.



posted on Nov, 28 2018 @ 12:02 AM
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Honestly, Face#,Twerker and Insta-Ham should be made illegal for politicians and others that hold public office, to use to communicate with the public.

They cannot use them for power and control, and we can not slander them with hate. No more racist innuendo by people you do not know with agenda's they hold close to the breast. On either side. This society is turning into a cesspool. I could give a crap about what most of these people think in real time, and would just prefer to read about it in newspapers , magazines and news programs.... like we used to.



posted on Nov, 28 2018 @ 12:08 AM
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a reply to: charlyv

LMAO what the hell are you on about? Forgot to take your meds?



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