Caravan Sponsored by Wall Building Contractors... Motive to get Congress to pass budget to pay ...T

Seeing lot of speculation on funding and sponsoring the Caravan and got to thinking about some of the standard and typical modes of operation that is often used to help manipulate contract awards and kickbacks and payoffs, etc, that goes on...without referencing any one situation specifically....ask if you need an example.

Believe there are still some questions on who is paying for the wall and how it is going to get funded...though contracts are being handing out for portions, if not all of the wall, in each of the U.S. -Mexico Border States.

Quick references on some of the headlines for the contracts, for sure raise an eyebrow, as originally think read a Company from Israel got a contract for constructing the wall.

Think we all know how it works...

Those who are against the wall and not in favor of funding or paying for it, may needed a little more persuasion.

Contract Awarded To Build 1st 6 Miles Of U.S.-Mexico Border Wall U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials said the first portion of Trump-trumpeted wall along southern border will cost $145 million.

patch.com...

US awards $73M contract for border wall work in New Mexico
apnews.com...

The first border wall contract was awarded to a startup owned by firm with a ... a roughly 2-mile stretch of border fencing in California, is the offshoot of a New ... broader proposal to build a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.
thehill.com...

Notice it says, 6 miles of wall segment, where the Caravan is at, that the contractor got $145,000,000 deal....


www.cnbc.com...

"Congress, fund the WALL!" he wrote.

Trump tweet

Congress is rushing to strike a deal to fund large parts of the government by Dec. 7 to avoid a partial government shutdown. On Thursday, Trump said "there certainly could be" a shutdown over border security as he seeks $5 billion for wall construction in the next fiscal year.

a reply to: dojozen

There is NO Speculation.

The Illegal Immigrant Caravans: Made in Chicago


www.abovetopsecret.com...

By various accounts, the center of gravity for this campaign is a Chicago organization called Pueblo Sin Fronteras, which translated from Spanish, means “People Without Borders.” That pretty much sums up the group’s philosophy.

Under the seemingly benign purpose of providing social services for the needy, notes Ludwig, Pueblo Sin Fronteras, a project of a Chicago-based 501(c)(4) nonprofit group, La Familia Latina Unida, seeks to elicit public sympathy for political gain at the expense of American self-governance. This Central America-to-United States caravan is not the group’s first such campaign. This spring, in fact, Pueblo Sin Fronteras organized a similar march with San Diego as the destination.

Pueblo Sin Fronteras and its sponsoring sister organization, La Familia Latina Unida, openly declare their intention to block any and all deportations of illegal immigrants. The two groups are functionally identical. They have overlapping staff and share a common address, 2176 West Division Street in Chicago.

www.influencewatch.org...

The CARA coalition consists of the Catholic Legal Immigration Network, the American Immigration Council, the Refugee and Immigrant Center for Education and Legal Services, and the American Immigration Lawyers Association, all groups advocating for legal status for illegal immigrants and expanded immigration overall.[26] These organizations have been funded by a number of major left-of-center grantmaking foundations, including the Open Society Foundations, MacArthur Foundation, Ford Foundation, and Carnegie Corporation of New York.

I for one would like to tighter borders, if a wall is what it takes then so be it. Perhaps it will slow the flow of illegal guns into Mexico.

a reply to: dojozen

Washington DC to Chicago to Honduras

Big Money Progressive Donors. 10s of millions

The goal is to collapse the immigration system.

Nice try but no cigar. Globalist/liberal agenda.
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Can't say I think it's contractors doing this. I have a new question on this matter though. Who would benefit from a complete Shutdown of the Southern US Border? I'm starting to wonder if that's the endgame here

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There's a video of the caravan being paid by what it looks like armed thugs, said video was taken by a priest in Honduras, there's also a video of a priest f/Mexico claiming the caravan is being paid by George Soros, but so far no reporter has tried to find out and inform the public who is responsible...

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So Soros is in favor of the wall>?
Stands to gain from construction of the wall and/or otherwise?

www.chicagotribune.com...

Big names back Trump tower
Thomas A. Corfman, Tribune staff reporterCHICAGO TRIBUNE

Donald Trump has lined up three New York hedge funds, including money from billionaire George Soros, to invest $160 million in his Chicago skyscraper, a key piece in perhaps the largest construction financing in the city's history, according to real estate sources and public documents.

George Soros buys stake in Spanish construction group FCC ...
www.ft.com...
Jan 2, 2014 - George Soros has bought a stake in Spain's FCC, becoming the second ... to bet on the indebted construction company in less than three months.

Here Soros was able to get 2 walls built...using the art of war tactic

www.vox.com...


Hungary just passed a “Stop Soros” law that makes it illegal to help undocumented migrants

Orbán has campaigned to close the Central European University, a prestigious university in Budapest funded by Soros, on grounds that it’s corrupting Hungarian society. He has built not one, but two, walls on Hungary’s southern border with Serbia — cutting off access from a route desperate refugees have used to get into Europe. Soros’s Open Society Foundation, his international pro-democracy charity, closed down all of its Budapest operations in May (citing a climate of persecution).

You think if he can get laws banning support of immigrants...that would make him more about closing borders and pro wall... thus why he funds La Familia Latina Unida

His agenda may not be so clear to everyone...

a reply to: manuelram16 Well,

Soros to make a killing with European 'forced migration' — RT Op-ed
www.rt.com...
Oct 2, 2016 - The philanthropist George Soros recently published a letter in the Wall Street Journal entitled, 'Why I'm Investing 500 million USD in Migrants'.

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Always been my position that the wall is not going to be used for keeping people out, as much as in.....though back to your question.... complete shutdown might be good to trigger a war with mexico and reason to invade...and while at it, cruise on down to south america and just clean up every country along the way......though do not think that is the road we are on...yet..least hope not.

Shutting down the government, because filler buster wall budget does not get it's $5,000,000,000 earmarked...now that is a real threat....like pay or shutdown.

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The George Soros Foundation is Giving SOME of these Illegal Entrants Pre-Paid Mastercard's with a Thousand US Dollars on them to participate in this Political Sideshow at the Expense of some of these prospective Future U.S. Citizens . Do you Think he Really Cares about these People , or is he just Using them to Gain some Petty Political End ? PEOPLE WANNA KNOW !

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Soros to make a killing with European 'forced migration'

www.rt.com...

Leaving what Soros may mean by 'civil society', I turn to his use of 'benefit'; benefit according to whom? According to George Soros – a man who destabilizes sovereign states as part of his modus operandi.

Soros concludes: “We will also work closely with organizations such as the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees and the International Rescue Committee to establish principles to guide our investments. Our goal is to harness, for public good, the innovations that only the private sector can provide.

I hope my commitment will inspire other investors to pursue the same mission.”

What this means in English is: “The fix is in, and now all you smaller fish further down the food chain can make a nice buck off the gravy train of selling your countries out because if this weren’t a sure thing, I wouldn’t be in it.”

sure he is hedging his bets and got some wall building company on the side

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Maybe Tony Blair can help ...

www.yogaesoteric.net...

The cash was paid to Blair’s personal charity, the Africa Governance Initiative (since March 2017 it is called Tony Blair’s Institute for Global Change). In return, Soros’ chum (and Guinea president) Alpha Conde received much invaluable advice, including how to handle PR in the aftermath of violent clashes during which government forces shot dead nine opposition activists and injured hundreds more.

born in Hungary in 1930. The alternative media often referred to him as a Rothschild agent, which he is. He seems to be a unique agent provocateur to promote revolutions and chaos all over the globe in order to promote Rothschild’s NWO agenda. And his means? He has bought the EU, as well as Denmark and NATO via former Danish Prime Minister and Finance Minister.

Now all of a sudden, Soros turns on social media like Facebook, Twitter and Google, calling them a danger to democracy: “They have grown too big. Their days are numbered”. A strange statement by a person who time and again demands “freedom of expression”.
But this shows the skewed Soros/Rothschild NWO: freedom and democracy mean slavery and dictatorship in their vocabulary.

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I Know Who Georgavich Soros Really Is , and he is NOT a Nice Person ...............(

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William Engdahl explains: “Soros’ connection to the ultra-secret international finance circles of the Rothschilds is not just an ordinary or accidental banking connection. Soros has access to information channels, both government and private. Not a single Western newspaper has so far uncovered the fact that the Rothschild group linked with George Soros was at the hub of the vast illegal network of the BCCI Bank – the ‘bank of crooks and criminals’.
Basically George Soros is another tool for economic and political warfare of the Rothschilds. He is among those circles who started a malicious ‘Fourth Reich’ campaign against the reunited Germany; Soros is very anti-German.”

www.yogaesoteric.net...

See how he sponsors immigration and triggers walls to protect his homeland?
Reverse Psychology.

Hungarian border barrier - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org...
In 2015, Hungary built a border barrier on its border with Serbia and Croatia. The fence was ..... BBC. 18 August 2015. ^ Jump up to: Feher, Margit (17 June 2015). "Hungary Plans Security Fence on Serbia Border to Keep Out Migrants". Wall Street Journal.
‎Serbian border · ‎Romanian border · ‎Impact on the number of ...
Far-right mayor hails success of Hungary-Serbia border fence
www.nbcnews.com...

May 2, 2018 - ÁSOTTHALOM, Hungary — A far-right mayor is hailing the success of a new border fence, saying it has protected Hungary from mass immigration. ... It certainly inspired Hungarians, who voted overwhelmingly for anti-migrant parties in elections earlier this month. ... His demands for a ...
Europe border walls: Growing number of anti-immigrant fencing erected
www.usatoday.com...

May 24, 2018 - Nations have been building border walls for ages, but the number has ... KUBEKHAZA, Hungary — As mayor of this Hungarian village where ...
Hungary Builds a Wall, Cuts Illegal Immigration by Over 99 Per Cent
www.breitbart.com...

Sep 16, 2017 - Hungary has slashed illegal immigration by over 99 per cent after rolling out a series of powerful border fences in response to the European ...

Building walls in his honor

originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: dojozen

There is NO Speculation.

The Illegal Immigrant Caravans: Made in Chicago


www.abovetopsecret.com...

By various accounts, the center of gravity for this campaign is a Chicago organization called Pueblo Sin Fronteras, which translated from Spanish, means “People Without Borders.” That pretty much sums up the group’s philosophy.

Under the seemingly benign purpose of providing social services for the needy, notes Ludwig, Pueblo Sin Fronteras, a project of a Chicago-based 501(c)(4) nonprofit group, La Familia Latina Unida, seeks to elicit public sympathy for political gain at the expense of American self-governance. This Central America-to-United States caravan is not the group’s first such campaign. This spring, in fact, Pueblo Sin Fronteras organized a similar march with San Diego as the destination.

Pueblo Sin Fronteras and its sponsoring sister organization, La Familia Latina Unida, openly declare their intention to block any and all deportations of illegal immigrants. The two groups are functionally identical. They have overlapping staff and share a common address, 2176 West Division Street in Chicago.

www.influencewatch.org...

The CARA coalition consists of the Catholic Legal Immigration Network, the American Immigration Council, the Refugee and Immigrant Center for Education and Legal Services, and the American Immigration Lawyers Association, all groups advocating for legal status for illegal immigrants and expanded immigration overall.[26] These organizations have been funded by a number of major left-of-center grantmaking foundations, including the Open Society Foundations, MacArthur Foundation, Ford Foundation, and Carnegie Corporation of New York.

Even the Media has mentioned this group (PSF) as one that is supplying a ton of logistics for these caravans. Without that support, there wouldn't be this wave of economic migrants coming in such numbers. They can get in line and wait all the other people wishing to enter the US legally.

a reply to: pavil this supports the theory that there is a hidden agenda... in order to build more walls and fences and immigration laws...have to send in some waves of immigrants to get the funding and laws passed?

Hungary honored Soros with a law in his name and fence in his honor...

If the goal of the sponsors is to get immigrants into the country seeking asylum,...think everyone knows what it triggers and will result...
Wall, laws, and less immigration and asylum rights...for starters...

Get it?

No one said the left was very bright....... Listen to them.

You keep believing that it's a vast right wing conspiracy to have Illegals storm our borders.

a reply to: pavil left and/or right, pretty sure we all agree they are getting funding

The left-right paradigm, is just designed to keep it simple, like checkers...

For sure think, if someone was on the fence about immigration and building a wall and was seeking $5bn budget this year for it, by Dec. 5th deadline.

Best way to keep the funding for the wall and the agenda progressing....

Send a few caravans up to the border and some media crews to spam the news....would be one of the best options, that come to mind...if not the first option.

originally posted by: pavil
No one said the left was very bright....... Listen to them.

You keep believing that it's a vast right wing conspiracy to have Illegals storm our borders.

If we engage unbiased logical thinking to analyse this basic situation the obvious first step is to ask who, how and why it benefits a particular political policy agenda.

For the right, it helps to heighten fears and reinforce the negative stereotypes surrounding immigrants, this is to get increased funding and support for border protection and erodes the support base for pro immigrantion positions.

So as a bonus, we now see these dirty subhuman"immigrants", after supposedly enduring several weeks of travel, "storm the border", throw rocks at officials and basically being a perfect parody of every immigration opponent's deepest fears, now come conveniently to life in full view of the media.

Beamed into every american home, using the finely tuned and constantly stoked fears of terrorism, drugs, rape, criminals and "undeserving" queue jumpers, the right wing media and political class have now got all the funding, followers and logistical support they could ever want.

Maybe even for a great big border wall?

You don't have to try very hard to see that there exists a compelling motive and a logical, possibly game changing reason for interference, support and/or funding from any number of possible participants on the right.

Now read this again from the top and tell me what possible benefit a pro refugee organization on the left would see from the current situation?

To upset/flood the immigration system so it will crack under the pressure is one theory I've heard although I can't honestly see how that makes any sense whatsoever.
I'm sure "the system" will easily cope with this and plenty more besides.
America has got a pretty robust immigration system in place.

The only other comment put forward was (to paraphrase) "well durrr, it liberals and they're dumb of course...".
Sorry but not really a compelling argument....

Personally I do absolutely believe in strict border controls but I also believe in empathy and compassion for my fellow humans(even if they are obviously secretly wealthy because they gave a mobile phone, right?).
Most of these people i would guess want no more than a decent life for their families.
Look further than skin deep and I would even hazard a guess that there would exist more similarities than differences between the average US citizen and those risking life and limb to be one.

Of course they should be vetted, checked and I believe they should also make a good effort to learn the language and customs.
I just cant see why anyone would maliciously spread hurtful untruths about them(to what possible end? Why?), classifying them as diseased, degenerate subhumans based only on their country of origin.
We fought world wars to end that kind of bigotry.

Finally im sure there will be some caught in criminal acts, once convicted by all means send them home but seriously how about paying more than lip service to innocent until proven guilty?
I guess some people will always carry fear and hate in their hearts, they may have had it there for so long they no longer even recognise the alternative.
For me I sincerely hope they can find peace and empathy instead, judge not, lest you be judged yourself, walking in another's shoes and treat others like you would have them treat you are not empty concepts.
They are the way to a better world.