BREAKING: Caravan Arrives as Hundreds of Migrants Rush U.S. Border In San Diego

originally posted by: toysforadults


decide to transcend the right vs left paradigm and elevate your thinking to a new level

I could do that, but then I'd just be a powerless fence sitter, while the rest of the world carries on. What exactly is this new level? Conceit?

See the flaw with this argument is that people are still going to be guided by their beliefs and moral compass, and align with whom ever fits closest with that.

It will always be left/right, Tory/Labor( ) , and so on. The alternatives are either too much choice and nothing gets done, or only one choice. Not saying the two party system is perfect, but look how far this country has come from its inception compared to many older ones.

ETA 2 - Too far off-topic, removed to save for use in another thread. Still shocked at the way the Caravan situation is being manipulated, but I see it as just one more example of how a Macchiavellian enemy is running a controlled burn of humanity using thousands of trigger incidents across the globe, to spark the conflagration that 'finally takes them [us] down'

Cheers. FITO.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Wise Man Once Said....

Better to be Safe than Sorry .

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: projectvxn

OK, but that's not what you and I were talking about .

Anyhow, to address this statement I'm under the impression they apply for asylum at a port of entry...

In Canada they use a loophole and cross at unofficial point.By doing this, their crossing is still illegal, but Canadian law stops considering them a criminal the moment they claim to be a refugee.

. Under the agreement, if an asylum-seeker presents himself at a regular port of entry on the Canada-U.S. land border, we will turn him back to make his asylum claim in the United States. But if he crosses outside a port of entry—even a few hundred yards to the side—he is permitted to make his asylum claim in Canada.

Then we put them up in hotels and take care of them for years due to backlogs

originally posted by: spacedoubt
I saw a pickup soccer game, a guy in a wheelchair, and a few people milling about.

it's frightful.

My God, it is so horrible. I am so thankful Trump deployed the military, I'm not sure we would have survived otherwise.

originally posted by: BlackJackal

originally posted by: spacedoubt
I saw a pickup soccer game, a guy in a wheelchair, and a few people milling about.

it's frightful.

My God, it is so horrible. I am so thankful Trump deployed the military, I'm not sure we would have survived otherwise.

Imagine the outcry if a caravan of Americans stormed a border.. I know they couldn't get into Canada.

a reply to: fernalley

Ah Canadians, you're all far to nice. Sounds like theres a need to speed the processing up, that's crazy.

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: fernalley

Ah Canadians, you're all far to nice. Sounds like theres a need to speed the processing up, that's crazy.

We're just gonna gloss over claiming refugee status after the fact?

a reply to: Wardaddy454

No it's off topic...

Oh Well...

Mexico to deport about 500 migrants who "violently" tried to "illegally" cross the U.S. Border

MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - Mexico will deport about 500 migrants who on Sunday tried to “violently” and “illegally” cross the U.S. border, according to the Mexican Interior Ministry in a statement.

The statement added that Mexican authorities had contained the protest at the crossing between Tijuana and San Diego and that, despite heightened tensions there, Mexico would not send military forces to control 7,417 migrants from a caravan currently amassed at the U.S.-Mexico border.

a reply to: TheOne7

I have to say this...I don't know how much you paid to
be given english lessons,you need to ask for a refund!

America doesn't have an immigration problem, it has an assimilation problem. A problem that was intentionally cultivated for the purpose of consolidating power for one particular group. Gone are the ideals of the great melting pot and the idea that we are all Americans. That is where the partisanship stems from and why we are seeing a foolhardy, heavy-handed response that will further acerbate the problem from the other end. Once again, one extreme begets another. And it is little more than a fight for control between two groups of select elites. Around and around we go my fellow carousel ponies.

Lol.

Y u teargas me bro?


Lulz gfcys

Put down the mob. This is how countires mess with each other.

They form these mobs to over whelm borders. Change the demographics and ultimately weaken the country and usher them into countires.

Usually the u.s. can create mobs within a country and cause disruption, But Americas enemies seem to have to create the mobs elsewhere

well, it's good to know that there isn't a group of people trying to storm the border and that the US ISN"T deploying tear gas and pepper balls. That would be troubling, so it's fantastic to know it's not happening at all.

originally posted by: mamabeth
a reply to: TheOne7

I have to say this...I don't know how much you paid to
be given english lessons,you need to ask for a refund!

Well thanks for the compliment.

I did not pay for this schitt..you did! Another example of people robbing you and throwing your money at a failed education system. The funny thing bout that is that we do not need a department of education nor is it lawful.

btw I believe in your sentence the word English should have been capitalized.

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

originally posted by: TheOne7

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: TheOne7

If they were following the law they would have applied at our embassy in their home state, or settled in Mexico.

Why would they bother to do that when it is legal for them to cross anywhere and then turn themselves in? They only become illegal if they do not report. I do not make the rules but just point out the fact that we are paying people to create the rules and those same folks are to be held responsible for the problems and not immigrants if we want to fix the system.

Its not legal for people to just waltz into another nation.

Go try to sneak into Canada with no ID. When you get out of jail tell us all about it. PLEASE!

Let me know when canada or mexico adopts the usa system of governance and laws then i will take you up on your offer.
Surely you understand that what you purpose is not equivalent to what we see happening in the usa.

Here is some arrest porn for you all.

www.foxnews.com...

Hundreds crossed yesterday at that site and around 50 were arrested but not for crossing but for disturbing the peace and such. The reason is because currently it is not illegal to cross and even if there were a 50' wall it would still be legal to climb it and cross unless laws change.

a reply to: TheOne7

I know that I should have capitalized English,my spell check did alert
me.I was in a hurry and really didn't care enough to correct it!

Your tone and attitude has me convinced that you're a troll and I will
no longer respond to you.Have a nice life!

a reply to: mamabeth

LOl
I do not troll....I catch. No need for the hate just debate.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Think the funding of the caravan might be an effort to get funding for the wall?

Contract Awarded To Build 1st 6 Miles Of U.S.-Mexico Border Wall U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials said the first portion of Trump-trumpeted wall along southern border will cost $145 million.

patch.com...

US awards $73M contract for border wall work in New Mexico
apnews.com...

The first border wall contract was awarded to a startup owned by firm with a ... a roughly 2-mile stretch of border fencing in California, is the offshoot of a New ... broader proposal to build a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.
thehill.com...