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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: CornishCeltGuy
I get that you enjoy your National Health System.
But we, in America, have a different view to healthcare.
It is not a right, granted by government, but a purchased service. Now government, our government, Is inept and corrupt.
So if we placed healthcare into the hands of our government, then we would have an inept and corrupt healthcare system.
We’re talking about people who get worked up when this woman takes off her shoes. The people who get off on triggering people have now become the triggerables. My support for this woman grows with every idiot on ATS that tries to call her out. And if you pay attention, it’s never over anything credible or even half-way important. Every time it’s a lame accusation with an even lamer reason behind it. Sit back, and enjoy watching these idiots implode right in front of everyone. The best part is that deep down inside, they see it too.
originally posted by: AtlasHawk
LOL Liberals are crazy. Canadian Free Healthcare isnt free at all, only in some areas it is.
-MRI scanning, Free etc
-Xray scanning free etc
-Dentistry and medicine not for free for sure lol
originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: ketsuko
When I had my stent put in, the followup medication is a powerful blood thinner. It is absolutely essential to keep the patient from having potentially fatal heart attacks. I had no insurance and could not afford the medication. So I told my cardiologist the situation and he sampled me enough blood thinner to keep me on track with medication until the danger had passed.
This was during the height of Obamacare, when I couldn't' find a full-time job to offer insurance, couldn't afford insurance, got no help from the government, and couldn't afford the medication. That's what these leftist fools did to my healthcare. Now they want to do worse, and they have the gall to try and use their own failures as examples of why they need to do worse!
originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: uninspired
I can't go along with not providing help to those who need it. I know donated organs are hard to come by, but their disposition should be to who has the best chance for survival, not who had the healthiest lifestyle. Also, medical science does not have all the answers on why a lifestyle is 'bad.'
Use me for an example: I have smoked for almost 50 years. I still smoke. But it wasn't smoking that caused my problem.. it was cholesterol. When all this started, my triglycerides were well over 500. I clogged the pipes, to put it simply. Looking at me, you would never believe I have high cholesterol. I stand 6'-2" and my normal weight is 170... I have never topped the 200 pound mark. Yet, I have a cholesterol problem. I have been told by a cardiologist that, while he begged me to stop smoking, smoking was not the cause and had caused me no problems thus far. Heck, I still have pretty impressive lung capacity as well.
In other words, that terrible life choice was not an issue for me, but something invisible was.
Plus, what you are describing is the exact reason I am cautious about socialized health insurance: the infamous "death panel." Who decides who lives and who dies? The only possible answer is the government, and we all know how corrupt they can be. If we start choosing who gets health care on a lifestyle basis, we open the door for tyranny... at some point, the vote one casts will become one of those lifestyle choices.