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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez makes a fool of herself yet AGAIN with tweet on single-payer

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posted on Nov, 25 2018 @ 02:01 PM
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originally posted by: Mandroid7
a reply to: rollanotherone

Haha!

Yeah we are already seeing gov overreach.

They asks your children if there are any firearms in the house.

Next will be banning ownership to people who used any drugs they knew where bad in the first place.

-probably the entire purpose of obamadon'tcare


Bypass hippa laws


The Doctor would ask the children at their exams if anyone smoked in the house. My children (being smart assedy) would say do you mean "does anyone living in the house smoke?" Or "does anyone smoke inside the house?".

Drinking, drugs, not wearing a seatbelt or eating saccharin ever came up :/




posted on Nov, 25 2018 @ 02:02 PM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: rollanotherone

Mine is about 50 50 principal and interest.

And how many years into your loan are you? This is house number 2 and we JUST moved in 2 months ago.



posted on Nov, 25 2018 @ 02:04 PM
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originally posted by: Mandroid7
a reply to: rollanotherone

Haha!

Yeah we are already seeing gov overreach.

They asks your children if there are any firearms in the house.

Next will be banning ownership to people who used any drugs they knew where bad in the first place.

-probably the entire purpose of obamadon'tcare

Bypass hippa laws

On my daughters papers to enroll her in the pediatrician's office, one question in particular was
"Are there any firearms in the house"
It was none of their god damned business.



posted on Nov, 25 2018 @ 02:06 PM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: TNMockingbird

Credit card should be paid monthly.


That would be ideal but, in my most recent situation I put about 1500+ on one of them for much needed dental work. That was second round, first round was cash. Guardian, my dental insurance, paid about 1250 minus my 90 plus 50 deductible. I won't be paying that off in one month, unfortunately but... can do 3.



posted on Nov, 25 2018 @ 02:06 PM
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a reply to: NoFearsEqualsFreeMan

What you call it doesn't really matter in the end. The power in the hands of the few, especially power over life choices and monetary concerns, corrupts.

I would love to see a restoration of our constitution back to individual states rights. Anything not clearly defined as a role for our federal government, is left up to the states. Lets have 50 different micro-systems that the individuals in each state can then decide for themselves what type of system they want, as long as it respects personal liberty and rights.

Then if we collect honest statistics, it will be obvious which system works out and which ones fail. If we had 50 separate state governments, think how much harder it would be to buy off all of those legislatures for medical and pharm companies. It would no longer be a one stop shop in D.C.

There was another poster that gave information on a startup organization that is trying to start an independent body of medical practitioners and structures. Independent of government and insurance. If the government simply gets out of the way (not even contributing) this system will show what is possible, imo.

The main thing that is needed is the elimination of centralized power/government. We need to return to our original constitution and bill of rights. We need states rights back. Then those socialist paradises can succeed or fail on their own merits and my taxes will no longer go towards those experiments, like sanctuary cities.

If you can afford it and your model turns out to be not totally corrupt, you win. If you bankrupt your state through stupidity, you lose. No more ability to print money out of thin air that just make all of our fiat that is already in circulation worth less.

Maybe if we simply return back to reality, a lot of problems go away. But that will never enrich the few or bring a body of people concentrated power. That requires a body/government to control resources and distribution. I like the idea and it sounds noble, but it doesn't reflect how this reality works.



posted on Nov, 25 2018 @ 02:06 PM
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originally posted by: rollanotherone

originally posted by: NoFearsEqualsFreeMan

originally posted by: rollanotherone

originally posted by: NoFearsEqualsFreeMan

originally posted by: rollanotherone

originally posted by: NoFearsEqualsFreeMan

originally posted by: ClovenSky
a reply to: NoFearsEqualsFreeMan

Now we are getting somewhere. I kind of believe along the same lines. There is a great system potential in capitalism. But we always run into corruption. The ability to have true freedom and keep what you make/produce is one of the greatest incentives of all time. Also the freedom to enter into contract with one another without the interference of government basically made this country thrive.

Do you have any ideas of how to use the awesome structure of capitalism and prevent corruption that the concentrated wealth allows?


Sure
Let goverment control all natural resources.

No on needs to read any further than this.


Nope, cause ideas are and other thoughts are bad and dangerous - so youre better not read any further, youre feelings might get hurt by the fact that someone else has other ideas than those you have

Have you ever worked for the US government?


Nope, and thank god for that


And you havent read any further on my comments, else you would know that i dont mean the current goverment, just something to control the harvesting of resources so we dont run out etc. I actually suggested a computer for that work. I just call it goverment in lack of a better term.

You're lucky then.

Who programs these computers? Who maintains these computers? The only answer is, humans. How far can we trust humans? Not very far at all.


Those ideas are not perfect, not at all. But we dont get anywhere if we dont start to think of new ways to do things.

I can understand you, it is hard to trust people when we see how things are in our world today. But if we cant trust other humans, there is no point in even having this conversation, then it is all for themself.

We have to trust each other at some point. Iam not talking goverment with power to make laws, taxes. etc.
Iam talking about someone makes sure that, when we cut down a tree, a new one is planted, so we dont run out.
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posted on Nov, 25 2018 @ 02:06 PM
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a reply to: TNMockingbird

Jesus

Yeah insurance companies need taken down a notch or 3.

Pushing policy through doctors that will help them avoid paying for services that have been purchased by their customers.
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posted on Nov, 25 2018 @ 02:08 PM
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originally posted by: Mandroid7
a reply to: rollanotherone

Holy crap dude.

Not to derail this thread too much

So, if you pay say double your payment per month is that pmnt applied directly to principal, or do they try and put it towards interest?







The interest will always be determined. Once you pay that, any remaining will go to principle. So yes, we could pay double, and pay down the interest quicker. The only punishment would be the lender sending me refinance notices with "lower rates" I've learned that refinancing resets the interest payments.



posted on Nov, 25 2018 @ 02:15 PM
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a reply to: NoFearsEqualsFreeMan

As was posted above, states rights. Smaller scale government.

And the one I can get behind. Put people in charge who do not want the job. Mandatory volunteer. Hell, I'd rather see you in charge than 99.99% of the people currently in charge.



posted on Nov, 25 2018 @ 02:15 PM
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a reply to: rollanotherone

Interesting, thanks.

That would be the way to deal with a mortgage then.

No wonder my Dad always says pay double if you can.

Crazy about the reset though, I guess you find a decent rate, stick with it, then double down on pmnt.


I'm having a hard time staying on topic, all these crazy people hitting the web are probably doing this on behalf of Trump imo.



posted on Nov, 25 2018 @ 02:17 PM
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a reply to: rollanotherone

When you write 85% interest, do you mean from the 2600$ you loose 85% to the bank? Sorry if this seems to be a dense question but maybe something is lost in translation.



posted on Nov, 25 2018 @ 02:18 PM
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a reply to: ClovenSky

I agree with you. I even think we should go further than 50 microstates, lets make big cities/towns decided how to rule thinks - in the perfect world, i think we all should be our own goverment, but we have to work together to survive, so it makes sense that one town makes rules that works for them, and another one doing things differently because it works for them. We are all different and different needs and wants.

A restoration of our constitution back to individual states rights would be a big step to make the world better, i agree.
But if we look at the world, we allready got something like 200+ states, and none of them are perfect.

But we are coming up with ideas, and that is where it all starts



posted on Nov, 25 2018 @ 02:19 PM
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a reply to: Mandroid7

100% principal. Interest is paid, everything over that goes to principal. Early on most is interest which is why extra payments early have a huge effect.
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posted on Nov, 25 2018 @ 02:22 PM
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a reply to: verschickter

In the initial payments yes 85% is lost. But overall it's about 50% for the life of the loan.



posted on Nov, 25 2018 @ 02:22 PM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Yep thanks, I'm a little slow on my finance knowledge. One area I'm working on.
-along with my spelling/english issues...lol



posted on Nov, 25 2018 @ 02:23 PM
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Credit cards and your credit score are a tricky thing. I've been paying off my CC's except for $100. My credit score was close to 800 last month but now it dropped 41 points just because I haven't used any credit cards. So by showing I'm responsible with CC's and paying them off, I'm punished for not using them with a lower credit score.



posted on Nov, 25 2018 @ 02:23 PM
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a reply to: TNMockingbird

prepaid, as in, I charge it with 20€ before I use the credit card. No interest rate because I don´t lend money from them, it´s basically the other way around just that I do not get an interest rate. No monthly or yearly fee.

It´s a "wirecard" something something.

That´s why I never have money on that thing until I need a credit card to buy something. Then I´ll will charge it up via bank account and use it for payment.

I think you misunderstood what a prepaid credit card is.



posted on Nov, 25 2018 @ 02:25 PM
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a reply to: TNMockingbird

Yes, there will be occasional exceptions, but monthly should be the norm.



posted on Nov, 25 2018 @ 02:25 PM
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originally posted by: CADpro
Credit cards and your credit score are a tricky thing. I've been paying off my CC's except for $100. My credit score was close to 800 last month but now it dropped 41 points just because I haven't used any credit cards. So by showing I'm responsible with CC's and paying them off, I'm punished for not using them with a lower credit score.


For sure tricky business!

I closed an account once, paid thousands off all at once. My score took a nose dive for awhile.
Don't believe the hype, it will rebound and anyone who cares can see that it wasn't a "charge off" but a "pay off" so the reward for you having more money in your pocket is worth it, IMO.



posted on Nov, 25 2018 @ 02:26 PM
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a reply to: Mandroid7

There are some great calculators out there that show you the change from overpayment.




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