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Trump-Appointed Judge....Rules ‘Collusion’ Is A Crime

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posted on Nov, 24 2018 @ 08:21 AM
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United States District Judge of the United States District Court for the District of Columbia, Dabney L Friedrich, nominated by Trump on June 7, 2017 and confirmed on November 27 2017, has rebuked Trump's own argument that even if collusion with Russia took place, collusion itself is not a crime.

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Ruling in a case brought by Mueller against the Russian company Concord Management and Consulting, which Mueller accuses in an indictment of bankrolling and organizing a team of Russian online “trolls” who used social media disinformation and propaganda to sway the 2016 election toward Trump, Judge Dabney Friedrich ruled that merely collaborating with a foreign entity in a “conspiracy to defraud the United States” violates federal law — even if none of the acts by either party are themselves crimes, according to legal expert Randal Eliason, writing on the legal blog Sidebars.


Judge Friedrich had previously ruled on the legality of the Mueller apointment....assets.documentcloud.org...



On August 13, 2018, in the case of United States v. Concord Management and Consulting LCC, she ruled against the defendant, one of 16 Russian entities charged by Special Counsel Robert Mueller, when it sought to void its indictment on the ground that his appointment to his position violated Constitutional separation of powers. In a 41-page opinion, she held that although "no statute explicitly authorizes the Acting Attorney General to make the appointment, Supreme Court and D.C. Circuit precedent make clear that the Acting Attorney General has the necessary statutory authority," "the appointment does not violate core separation-of-powers principles. Nor has the Special Counsel exceeded his authority under the appointment order by investigating and prosecuting Concord."


So what do you all think of this ruling, and what does it mean for the "orange man bad" crowd, that can only reply to post critical of Trump with orange man bad or but Hillary or but Obama?

Will they have to change their standard response to "orange man criminal"?

Will Trump have a Nixon moment, waving a peace sign while intimating "I am not a crook"?

Or is this judge just a part of the fake news...or the globalist socialist illuminati lizard plot against America?

Did Trump nominate an enemy of the state as a judge? Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing orange man bad in an orange jumpsuit. It really would go well with his hair.

PS I don't babysit threads, probably wont come back til later this evening.
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posted on Nov, 24 2018 @ 08:36 AM
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a reply to: ErEhWoN

Conspiracy and Fraud are the crime, not collusion.

The USA is colluding with other governments and the UN as we speak, so all that is now criminal activity?

So what conspiracy and fraud is Trump guilty of? Like IRS targeting?


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posted on Nov, 24 2018 @ 08:38 AM
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a reply to: ErEhWoN

Of course,
Collusion is just a synonym for conspiracy, and even conspiracy to steal milk is a crime. This just allows the prosecution of Clinton, the one where there's actual evidence of collusion with Russians.




PS I don't babysit threads, probably wont come back til later this evening.


Typical of you people, post and run and hide...


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posted on Nov, 24 2018 @ 08:42 AM
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a reply to: neutronflux

He paid a foreign agent to create a fake dossier to get a FISA warrant and weaponized the FBI against his political opponents....

oh...wait



posted on Nov, 24 2018 @ 08:53 AM
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originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: ErEhWoN

Conspiracy and Fraud are the crime, not collusion.

The USA is colluding with other governments and the UN as we speak, so all that is now criminal activity?

So what conspiracy and fraud is Trump guilty of? Like IRS targeting?


Conspiracy to defraud the United States includes an agreement to impair, obstruct, or defeat the lawful functions of the federal government. This could include, for example, an agreement with the Russians to interfere with the Federal Election Commission’s administration of federal election laws. This was actually the lead charge in February's indictment of 13 Russian individuals and three Russian companies for interfering with the election.

So, if Mueller is able to prove a link between those Russians and the Trump campaign....... You know the rest.



posted on Nov, 24 2018 @ 09:00 AM
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originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: neutronflux

He paid a foreign agent to create a fake dossier to get a FISA warrant and weaponized the FBI against his political opponents....

oh...wait


For one your argument is a logical fallacy in and of itself. (Whataboutism) Secondly, the payment for the dossier was legal, the only thing illegal was the Clinton campaign labeling the payment as "legal services" which is punishable by fines. [LINK]



posted on Nov, 24 2018 @ 09:06 AM
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a reply to: BlackJackal

And cite Mueller where Mueller is investigating Trump for conspiring with Russia.
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posted on Nov, 24 2018 @ 09:09 AM
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So she is saying that the United States Gov and the actors within are all guilty of treason. Because that is all foreign diplomacy is.

I like this Judge.



posted on Nov, 24 2018 @ 09:14 AM
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a reply to: BlackJackal

Mueller case fell apert on those 13. They demanded evidence for their defense and he cant provide it.



posted on Nov, 24 2018 @ 09:22 AM
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a reply to: BlackJackal

And there or other legal experts that disagree with out. And noticed you never touched on the dossier was bought fabrication used to obtain a FISA warrant under false pretenses....

Which would be fraud and conspiracy?
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posted on Nov, 24 2018 @ 09:28 AM
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originally posted by: ErEhWoN
I wouldn't mind seeing orange man bad in an orange jumpsuit. It really would go well with his hair.

I'm sorry but this is what your post breaks down too.

And yes. It is "Orange man bad"



posted on Nov, 24 2018 @ 09:38 AM
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Im so glad that you guys have come up with a simplified slogan for trump.
Its very convenient.
Orange man bad...
it says it all.
Come on all you real freedom fighters out there. They have given us a slogan.
Lets use it till they puke.
ORANGE MAN BAD

Yes.... he is.



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posted on Nov, 24 2018 @ 09:43 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

And yet he is more humane and is more ethical than the other choice of Hillary.



posted on Nov, 24 2018 @ 09:45 AM
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a reply to: ErEhWoN

I'm all for the ruling since it specifically mentions any conspiracy to "defraud the United States". Trump may have been trying to conspire to get dirt on Hillary, but at least it wasn't the made up and fraudulent dirt that the Hillary Clinton campaign and their contractors used against Trump. If the dirt is real, it should be fair game.
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posted on Nov, 24 2018 @ 09:46 AM
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So I guess this means Orange man will need to pardon Orange junior.



posted on Nov, 24 2018 @ 09:46 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

And I sorry you don’t understand it’s not about defending a great person, it’s about defending the lesser corrupt of two bad choices.



posted on Nov, 24 2018 @ 09:47 AM
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a reply to: ErEhWoN
To be honest collusion has never been the legal definition of the crime.
The actual crime has always been conspiracy against the United States.
Jerome Corsey expects to be indicted any day now. Roger Stone most likely too.
And they are going to connect trump to that whole thing.
We may never know what trumps reasoning was other than self serving which we fully expect from him but if there was a reason that Russia was doing this and something they are holding over him... that could remain a secret.
I will wait like everyone else to see where this crazy ride winds up.



posted on Nov, 24 2018 @ 09:50 AM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: ErEhWoN
To be honest collusion has never been the legal definition of the crime.
The actual crime has always been conspiracy against the United States.
Jerome Corsey expects to be indicted any day now. Roger Stone most likely too.
And they are going to connect trump to that whole thing.
We may never know what trumps reasoning was other than self serving which we fully expect from him but if there was a reason that Russia was doing this and something they are holding over him... that could remain a secret.
I will wait like everyone else to see where this crazy ride winds up.


Huh?


Report: Mueller Team Told Trump Lawyers That He’s Not a Criminal Target

www.thedailybeast.com...


The only think Mueller can hope for is fabricating a case of Trump obstruction.



posted on Nov, 24 2018 @ 09:53 AM
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a reply to: BlackJackal


So, if Mueller is able to prove a link between those Russians and the Trump campaign....... You know the rest.


The indictments against the Russians stated that there was no proof of knowledge from any Americans of who these Russians really were and what they were doing.



posted on Nov, 24 2018 @ 09:55 AM
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a reply to: DAVID64

The Dossier is real.
Always has been.
And its a perfectly legal document.
Paid for Yes... created through thorough investigation and interviews with people that Steele had taken decades to cultivate relationships with. People he knew from his years as an MI6 agent. One of their best as a matter of fact.
That this document scares the piss out of all of you (Oh yes pun intended) is evident. You all try so hard to discredit it.
Too bad so much of it has been validated and who knows how much more since Mueller has had his hands on it.



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