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Anti-Trumpers are Thought Police, Not Our Moral Superiors.

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posted on Nov, 23 2018 @ 12:58 AM
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posted on Nov, 23 2018 @ 01:42 AM
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the OP in brief:

"i don't actually listen when women speak therefore something something leftist bogeyman"
like not that i expect intellectual honesty or any sort of integrity around here anymore but dang that's still a real big leap in logic to go entirely unremarked for four pages.



posted on Nov, 23 2018 @ 01:46 AM
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originally posted by: continuousThunder
the OP in brief:

"i don't actually listen when women speak therefore something something leftist bogeyman"
like not that i expect intellectual honesty or any sort of integrity around here anymore but dang that's still a real big leap in logic to go entirely unremarked for four pages.


I didn’t mention leftists and in fact quoted a right-wing, conservative journalist. So much for intellectual honesty.



posted on Nov, 23 2018 @ 01:57 AM
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a reply to: BlackJackal

Not only the word of Trump, but the “essence” of Trump. Either way, you have to reach into your fevered imagination to pull up some fantasy to justify your outrages.

I oppose all activists, left or right, Trump or anti-Trump, and any protest that resembles a child’s protest.

I know. You guys hate Trump. You haven’t let us forget it and reveal your hatred at every turn. But you guys have also proven you’re the worst judges of character.



posted on Nov, 23 2018 @ 03:27 AM
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a reply to: BlackJackal

And JFK cheated on his wife while President w a playboy centerfold and model....

Martin Luther King Jr was an adulterer as well who treated his wife horrible....

People's home life's don't mean they can't accomplish great things......

People forget far to often that some of the greatest men the world has ever seen, who contributed most to society, were deeply flawed as individuals....
edit on 11/23/2018 by ManBehindTheMask because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 23 2018 @ 06:32 AM
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a reply to: Propagandalf

Wait. You didn't mention leftists?



Even his fiercest critics have little more than Trump’s breath as their moral weathervane. Fedora-wearing anti-trumper Max Boot reveals to us the extent of his own thought-policing in an article for the Washington Post. To tempt his readers to vote democrat, he reaches into what he believes are Trump’s most egregious crimes and injustices, and almost every time pulls out a mere speech infraction, an instance of Trump saying something Boot does not approve of.


Not a leftist, just another confused rightwinger asking people to vote for dems? Now I get your definition. That's some exceptional brain acrobatics right there, I'll give you that.



posted on Nov, 23 2018 @ 07:08 AM
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originally posted by: Propagandalf
a reply to: BlackJackal

Not only the word of Trump, but the “essence” of Trump. Either way, you have to reach into your fevered imagination to pull up some fantasy to justify your outrages.

I oppose all activists, left or right, Trump or anti-Trump, and any protest that resembles a child’s protest.

I know. You guys hate Trump. You haven’t let us forget it and reveal your hatred at every turn. But you guys have also proven you’re the worst judges of character.



You’re a confused person. I literally show you that your premise of “protesting his words” was bull# and this is the best you’ve got. Look, Trump the man is a bad person, always has been. He says and DOES horrible things. He never changed, he is the #ty person now that he was then.

What is your defense to all the horrible things he did before becoming President? How do you reconcile the fact that the man you elected President has shown absolutely 0 inclination to help his fellow man with his wealth? (I would really like you to use his charity as a defense here, you know since he used that as his personal piggy bank) If Trump has only proven over the years to be looking out for numero uno at the literal expense of everyone around him, then why do you believe he suddenly changed and now has your best interest first? Trump has always been Trump first and only benefited others if it benefited Trump more. What about the fact that Trump stiffed many businesses on the payments they earned doing work for him?

I could go on and on. Look bottom line you claim Trump to be a great leader that just says bad things. I have proven that completely wrong and the best you got is an attempt at ignoring the evidence. Sad.

So you oppose people exercising their rights under the Constitution? It doesn’t matter what you think about the protest. What matters is that they are allowed to peaceful protest because they are American citizens. The content of the protest doesn’t matter, what matters is they are exercising their rights granted to them by the blood of American soldiers. I have lost any respect I had left for you.



posted on Nov, 23 2018 @ 07:24 AM
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originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
a reply to: BlackJackal

And JFK cheated on his wife while President w a playboy centerfold and model....

Martin Luther King Jr was an adulterer as well who treated his wife horrible....

People's home life's don't mean they can't accomplish great things......

People forget far to often that some of the greatest men the world has ever seen, who contributed most to society, were deeply flawed as individuals....


Ok so I will agree with you that sexual transgressions may not be deal breakers. But what about his treatment of tenants. What about the fact he refused to pay his debts? What about the scam University he set up? What about the fact he said Tianemen square “shows you the power of strength” of the Chinese government?

There are literally dozens of more examples of how bad this guy really is. How in the world do you defend this guy as a good leader? What great accomplishment has Trump had that outweighs all these negatives? Is it the great economic recovery that started in 2009? Is it the tax cut for the rich after he told the American people that rich people like him would pay more taxes? What is there that could possibly make this scumbag a great person? What has he ever done that benefited someone other than himself or his family?
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posted on Nov, 23 2018 @ 07:32 AM
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originally posted by: continuousThunder
the OP in brief:

"i don't actually listen when women speak therefore something something leftist bogeyman"
like not that i expect intellectual honesty or any sort of integrity around here anymore but dang that's still a real big leap in logic to go entirely unremarked for four pages.


Speaking as a woman, those women weren't speaking. They were screeching and throwing a tantrum because they didn't get what they wanted.

Nothing had actually happened to them yet. Nothing had happened to anyone yet. They were simply expressing their extreme displeasure at the results of the election.

I was pretty darn bummed and upset after Obama got elected with a Super Majority backing him because I was pretty darn sure health care was going to get screwed up, but I didn't go out on the streets and scream about it. There was no point, not until there was something to actually be upset over.
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posted on Nov, 23 2018 @ 07:40 AM
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originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: continuousThunder
the OP in brief:

"i don't actually listen when women speak therefore something something leftist bogeyman"
like not that i expect intellectual honesty or any sort of integrity around here anymore but dang that's still a real big leap in logic to go entirely unremarked for four pages.


Speaking as a woman, those women weren't speaking. They were screeching and throwing a tantrum because they didn't get what they wanted.

Nothing had actually happened to them yet. Nothing had happened to anyone yet. They were simply expressing their extreme displeasure at the results of the election.

I was pretty darn bummed and upset after Obama got elected with a Super Majority backing him because I was pretty darn sure health care was going to get screwed up, but I didn't go out on the streets and scream about it. There was no point, not until there was something to actually be upset over.


Just because you don’t agree with what they were protesting doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be able to protest. That is their right which American soldiers have fought and died to protect. Regardless of who is protesting or what they are protesting for every American should respect the fact that they are using their rights. We should be proud that our fellow citizens care enough about this country that they are willing to protest.

When you willingly start discounting the rights of others, you will find your rights missing soon afterwards. (Lesson learned from pretty much any democracy turned autocracy in history)



posted on Nov, 23 2018 @ 07:52 AM
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a reply to: Propagandalf

It is my opinion that the anger, the protests, the hatred towards Trump are not towards Trump at all.

It's directed at the people who voted for Trump.


We didn't "think" like they did, we didn't "believe" like they did.


The anti-Trump agenda is almost a religion where any thought outside of their doctrine is considered heretical and justifies the violence. I see too many parallels to Islamic fundamentalism and say, Hillary, when they both basically say, "Think like us and we'll be civil".



posted on Nov, 23 2018 @ 08:01 AM
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originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Propagandalf




But we should always bear in mind that the anti-Trumpers are thought police, not our moral superiors.

Does that mean that anti-Obama's are thought police too , or does it only cut one way ?




Anti Communist is what I am and he is a Commie/Fascist captivating and audiences who is carrying the D's while they attempt to create another Socialist hell on earth.

I don't care who they are if that is their goal, then I am anti whoever does that. Hillary lovers don't seem to understand the facts of Socialism and I see it as willing on their part.

ETA Just call balls and strikes on Socialism and you would have to agree it leads to disaster of murderous proportions never imagined by the Khans.


edit on 23-11-2018 by Justoneman because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 23 2018 @ 08:05 AM
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can one police thoughts without being telepathic??
there's no many people who can judge a person based on what they are thinking, since for the most part, we have no idea what they are thinking. We can only judge the words that come out of their mouth and the actions that they take.
I often check out what those who are "speaking god's message" are saying.
So how should I judge things when a presidential candidate talks about not being able to help himself by grabbing women by the .... which is sexual assault, unless he had permission to BEFORE he did it. A president who seems to not really know what the truth is and can't help lying, even about stupid little things. How should I judge those religious people who are out there who are claiming the good christians should just overlook this, that it's against god's will for any women to be president, better to have a self admitted sexual assaulter, this guy who fails to tell the truth so often he seems to be living in his own reality while dragging a good part of this nation into that fake reality? And, then, just to get their message across, they go on and try to scare the followers into seeing things their way by invoking the wrath of god!! Liberals are the spawn of satan and on and on...
I can see why women hit the streets!!! This nation, or at least enough to get the self admitted sexual assaulter elected, decided that women's ability to decide what happens to their own body wasn't that important to them. Not that many of us didn't already know this, so many of us had to endure this kind of crap, some even worse. But, we thought we were making some headway in the right direction. So, the women hit the streets in force, and they became a force to be reckoned with as is shown by the new crop of congressmen and WOMEN (lots of them) that are heading to washington.
Your thoughts are your own, think as you will. but when your thoughts become actions or words that serve as an attempt to remove rights from others don't gripe when they judge you based on your actions and words!!!



posted on Nov, 23 2018 @ 10:15 AM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: Propagandalf

Wait. You didn't mention leftists?



Even his fiercest critics have little more than Trump’s breath as their moral weathervane. Fedora-wearing anti-trumper Max Boot reveals to us the extent of his own thought-policing in an article for the Washington Post. To tempt his readers to vote democrat, he reaches into what he believes are Trump’s most egregious crimes and injustices, and almost every time pulls out a mere speech infraction, an instance of Trump saying something Boot does not approve of.


Not a leftist, just another confused rightwinger asking people to vote for dems? Now I get your definition. That's some exceptional brain acrobatics right there, I'll give you that.


Yes. Max Boot is a conservative so repelled by Trump he hates his own party. But I’m not going to do your homework for you.



posted on Nov, 23 2018 @ 10:24 AM
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originally posted by: BlackJackal

originally posted by: Propagandalf
a reply to: BlackJackal

Not only the word of Trump, but the “essence” of Trump. Either way, you have to reach into your fevered imagination to pull up some fantasy to justify your outrages.

I oppose all activists, left or right, Trump or anti-Trump, and any protest that resembles a child’s protest.

I know. You guys hate Trump. You haven’t let us forget it and reveal your hatred at every turn. But you guys have also proven you’re the worst judges of character.



You’re a confused person. I literally show you that your premise of “protesting his words” was bull# and this is the best you’ve got. Look, Trump the man is a bad person, always has been. He says and DOES horrible things. He never changed, he is the #ty person now that he was then.

What is your defense to all the horrible things he did before becoming President? How do you reconcile the fact that the man you elected President has shown absolutely 0 inclination to help his fellow man with his wealth? (I would really like you to use his charity as a defense here, you know since he used that as his personal piggy bank) If Trump has only proven over the years to be looking out for numero uno at the literal expense of everyone around him, then why do you believe he suddenly changed and now has your best interest first? Trump has always been Trump first and only benefited others if it benefited Trump more. What about the fact that Trump stiffed many businesses on the payments they earned doing work for him?

I could go on and on. Look bottom line you claim Trump to be a great leader that just says bad things. I have proven that completely wrong and the best you got is an attempt at ignoring the evidence. Sad.

So you oppose people exercising their rights under the Constitution? It doesn’t matter what you think about the protest. What matters is that they are allowed to peaceful protest because they are American citizens. The content of the protest doesn’t matter, what matters is they are exercising their rights granted to them by the blood of American soldiers. I have lost any respect I had left for you.


You did no such thing. You conjured more little anti-Trump talking points (while suppressing everything else), and played thought police while doing so.

Now you want to say that some of the biggest protests in history are the result of Trump playing hardball in business, or that he doesn’t donate enough.

I don’t need to defend anything because we are not electing popes, and he hasn’t done anything that bad.

Yes, you hate him. We get it. And it gets sillier and sillier each time I hear it.



posted on Nov, 23 2018 @ 10:46 AM
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originally posted by: Propagandalf

originally posted by: BlackJackal

originally posted by: Propagandalf
a reply to: BlackJackal

Not only the word of Trump, but the “essence” of Trump. Either way, you have to reach into your fevered imagination to pull up some fantasy to justify your outrages.

I oppose all activists, left or right, Trump or anti-Trump, and any protest that resembles a child’s protest.

I know. You guys hate Trump. You haven’t let us forget it and reveal your hatred at every turn. But you guys have also proven you’re the worst judges of character.



You’re a confused person. I literally show you that your premise of “protesting his words” was bull# and this is the best you’ve got. Look, Trump the man is a bad person, always has been. He says and DOES horrible things. He never changed, he is the #ty person now that he was then.

What is your defense to all the horrible things he did before becoming President? How do you reconcile the fact that the man you elected President has shown absolutely 0 inclination to help his fellow man with his wealth? (I would really like you to use his charity as a defense here, you know since he used that as his personal piggy bank) If Trump has only proven over the years to be looking out for numero uno at the literal expense of everyone around him, then why do you believe he suddenly changed and now has your best interest first? Trump has always been Trump first and only benefited others if it benefited Trump more. What about the fact that Trump stiffed many businesses on the payments they earned doing work for him?

I could go on and on. Look bottom line you claim Trump to be a great leader that just says bad things. I have proven that completely wrong and the best you got is an attempt at ignoring the evidence. Sad.

So you oppose people exercising their rights under the Constitution? It doesn’t matter what you think about the protest. What matters is that they are allowed to peaceful protest because they are American citizens. The content of the protest doesn’t matter, what matters is they are exercising their rights granted to them by the blood of American soldiers. I have lost any respect I had left for you.


You did no such thing. You conjured more little anti-Trump talking points (while suppressing everything else), and played thought police while doing so.

Now you want to say that some of the biggest protests in history are the result of Trump playing hardball in business, or that he doesn’t donate enough.

I don’t need to defend anything because we are not electing popes, and he hasn’t done anything that bad.

Yes, you hate him. We get it. And it gets sillier and sillier each time I hear it.


Your initial argument was that people are only protesting Trump because of his words. It's right there in your post, here let me remind you in case your memory isn't that great.


Even his fiercest critics have little more than Trump’s breath as their moral weathervane.


Literally, your entire point hinges on the idea that people are only going after Trump for what he says. Now that I have shown you his actions match his rhetoric you retreat with the argument


I don’t need to defend anything because we are not electing popes, and he hasn’t done anything that bad.


The best defense you got is that his actions aren't that bad. Sad.

No, we aren't electing Pope's but one could hope that we are at least electing people of decent character and that's not Trump. Unless, you know of some secret news stories where Trump did anything in his life that wasn't self-centered.

By the way, that Women's Day march you used in your opening topic. It literally happens every year on March 8th. It wasn't planned purely as a demonstration against Trump. Yeah, there were people there protesting Trump but it wasn't planned as a Trump protest.



posted on Nov, 23 2018 @ 10:50 AM
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originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Propagandalf
I'm a guy but I have to disagree with your post on nearly every point.

So you don't see that if a woman, doing just the same job with the same productivity as a man, automatically earns less, as an an injustice?


Artificial injustice...

I'll give you a crumb. The same reason men make up 98% of work related fatalities and the wage gap are related. Maternity leave is also not taken into your .77 cent on the dollar BS argument.

You have the world at your fingertips.
Use it!

Rather than parroting lies...



posted on Nov, 23 2018 @ 11:07 AM
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a reply to: Justoneman




Anti Communist is what I am and he is a Commie/Fascist

Obama wasn't a Socialist or a Commie/Fascist , time to brush up on your definitions.



ETA Just call balls and strikes on Socialism and you would have to agree it leads to disaster of murderous proportions never imagined by the Khans.

Looking around I think Capitalism does "disaster of murderous proportions" far better than Socialism.



posted on Nov, 23 2018 @ 11:23 AM
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a reply to: Propagandalf

Why do Trump supporters need to make everything be about them? I'm sure there's an explanation for that

Trump supporters do make Trump possible. What would you have us do?


Yeah, I know; you're not trying to control how anybody thinks

We all have choices to make. I am a Never-Trumper through and through - and that started well before he ever ran for office


c'est la vie



posted on Nov, 23 2018 @ 12:02 PM
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a reply to: Propagandalf

Get a life




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