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Anti-Trumpers are Thought Police, Not Our Moral Superiors.

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posted on Nov, 22 2018 @ 11:15 AM
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a reply to: chr0naut

What about a black lawyer in Compton, should they make as much as a while lawyer from the Hamptons? The injustices that are often discussed are in no way equitable for them to have a need to be equal. A position at this company is not the same as a position at another company there are many other variables that should be in consideration before race or gender that are often overlooked in those discussions. The same position in the same company in different locations can have a pay gap. There is no such thing as unilateral equality.

Personally I believe most companies should offer a base wage with a production pay incentive.
edit on 11/22/2018 by TheLead because: (no reason given)




posted on Nov, 22 2018 @ 11:23 AM
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originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: JinMI

What wasn't a given in his speech was that you shouldn't view Progressivism as merely a country-wide problem.

They want the whole planet.



Breaking us into component parts via groups identities is part of breaking those old bonds of family and nation via culture. Those are things that are more prone to give you an individual personhood than simply thinking of yourself as a woman and a race and class.


Oh, I agree entirely. Marx wrote extensively on the subject as one of the primary mechanisms to make a populace more reliant on government.

Just saying that it's a bigger problem than just the USA.

We fall, the world will go as well.

That's why the Progressive concentration on the US.

We are their keys to everything else.



posted on Nov, 22 2018 @ 11:29 AM
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You should always bear in mind that partisan politics is for retards that can't think for themselves. It is you democrats and republicans that are destroying our nation.



posted on Nov, 22 2018 @ 11:30 AM
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You should always bear in mind that partisan politics is for retards that can't think for themselves. It is you democrats and republicans that are destroying our nation.



posted on Nov, 22 2018 @ 11:32 AM
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originally posted by: trustmeimdoctor
You should always bear in mind that partisan politics is for retards that can't think for themselves. It is you democrats and republicans that are destroying our nation.


That isn't true. Partisan politics is democracy in action. Just look at the places without partisan politics and you'll see they are almost always totalitarian.



posted on Nov, 22 2018 @ 11:35 AM
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Im definitely morally superior to any trump humping deplorable. a reply to: Propagandalf


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posted on Nov, 22 2018 @ 11:37 AM
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originally posted by: soundguy
Im definitely morally superior to any trump humping deplorable. a reply to: Propagandalf



If you have to say you are, you probably ain't.



posted on Nov, 22 2018 @ 11:46 AM
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originally posted by: trustmeimdoctor
You should always bear in mind that partisan politics is for retards that can't think for themselves. It is you democrats and republicans that are destroying our nation.


Yes, because a fascist dictatorship is oh so much better! /s



posted on Nov, 22 2018 @ 11:48 AM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
Our American Cold Civil War

Try reading this. It's depressing, but it perfectly encapsulates the phenomena you describe, and what is going on between the two sides of the American divide.

It also doesn't offer much hope that we'll find our way out of this very happily either.

But it does offer a rational explanation. When we have this discussion, we aren't even talking the same language with each other anymore.


Very Nice article and definitely provides insight into how people think. These are of major concern....





There is also today a vast divergence between the liberal and conservative understandings of the First Amendment. Liberals are interested in transforming free speech into what they call equal speech, ensuring that no one gets more than his fair share. They favor a redistribution of speech rights and narrowing the First Amendment for the sake of redistribution of speech rights from the rich to the poor. Not surprisingly, the Democratic Party’s 2016 platform called for amending the First Amendment!

There is, of course, also a big difference between the liberal Constitution’s freedom from religion and the conservative Constitution’s freedom of religion. And needless to say, the liberal Constitution has no Second Amendment.

In terms of government structure, the liberal Constitution is designed to overcome the separation of powers and most other checks and balances. Liberals consistently support the increased ability to coordinate, concentrate, and enhance government power—as opposed to dividing, restricting, or checking it. This is to the detriment of popular control of government. In recent decades, government power has flowed mainly through the hands of unelected administrators and judges—to the point that elected members of Congress find themselves increasingly dispirited and unable to legislate.




posted on Nov, 22 2018 @ 12:01 PM
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originally posted by: soundguy
Im definitely morally superior to any trump humping deplorable. a reply to: Propagandalf



Someone didn’t read the post

What an intellectual



posted on Nov, 22 2018 @ 12:14 PM
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a reply to: Lab4Us

Yeah, I wasn't quite suggesting fascism. I'm suggesting people think for themselves and stop believing in two parties that have failed us repeatedly.



posted on Nov, 22 2018 @ 12:17 PM
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a reply to: Propagandalf

It absolutely is true. The two party system is a disgrace to our country. It's a system that might as well be totalitarian. It's just as bad in every way.



posted on Nov, 22 2018 @ 12:21 PM
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originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: soundguy
Im definitely morally superior to any trump humping deplorable. a reply to: Propagandalf



Someone didn’t read the post

What an intellectual


He doesn't need inta-ma-lekt. He has morals.



posted on Nov, 22 2018 @ 01:22 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: chr0naut

Did you read the piece I posted?

We aren't even speaking the same language here.


No we aren't speaking the same language.

You seem to be breaking everything down to party affiliation.

There are people who don't agree with Trump and who are not Democrats (or Socialists, or Communists).

Trump and his supporters frame everything under collective labels and then suggest applying some sort of legislative action against those labels. Things like unilaterally declaring the people in the caravans as 'illegal' when the majority of them were not.

Prosecuting labels like this, rather than individual malefactors, would be prosecuting many who are innocent of a crime.

This is the reason why five of Trump's executive orders have been blocked by the judiciary.

The prosecution of someone for a crime they did not commit, is injustice, it is unconstitutional and it is contrary to the rights and statutes of existing under US law (it is, by definition, illegal).

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posted on Nov, 22 2018 @ 01:40 PM
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originally posted by: TheLead
a reply to: chr0naut

What about a black lawyer in Compton, should they make as much as a while lawyer from the Hamptons? The injustices that are often discussed are in no way equitable for them to have a need to be equal. A position at this company is not the same as a position at another company there are many other variables that should be in consideration before race or gender that are often overlooked in those discussions. The same position in the same company in different locations can have a pay gap. There is no such thing as unilateral equality.

Personally I believe most companies should offer a base wage with a production pay incentive.


Agreed that unilateral 'equality' is a difficult issue but women in the same office, in the same company, doing the same job and with similar productivity have systematically been paid less. That is clear and unambiguous inequality.

Regarding what companies offer, I actually think that it is time for first world countries to consider a universal basic income. This does not limit capitalism one iota, but allows for a society that actually values quality of human life as a national goal and a basic human right.

I also believe that, above a certain earning capacity per person, there should be a mandate to reinvest capital gains rather than sequestering wealth out of the economy in stockpiled assets.

Some might call those things socialist but I believe that they actually support a strong capitalist economy, where money works hard and growth is a goal.

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posted on Nov, 22 2018 @ 01:44 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: soundguy
Im definitely morally superior to any trump humping deplorable. a reply to: Propagandalf



Someone didn’t read the post

What an intellectual


He doesn't need inta-ma-lekt. He has morals.



Both are required in a government executive.



posted on Nov, 22 2018 @ 01:47 PM
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originally posted by: Propagandalf

originally posted by: soundguy
Im definitely morally superior to any trump humping deplorable. a reply to: Propagandalf



If you have to say you are, you probably ain't.


Explain your reasoning.

To me, explaining your moral basis to another, is a reasonable enough thing to do.



posted on Nov, 22 2018 @ 01:51 PM
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originally posted by: Lab4Us

originally posted by: trustmeimdoctor
You should always bear in mind that partisan politics is for retards that can't think for themselves. It is you democrats and republicans that are destroying our nation.


Yes, because a fascist dictatorship is oh so much better! /s


There are a number of non-partisan political systems other than a Fascist dictatorship. Anarchy, Democracy, Communism, Socialism, the list goes on...



posted on Nov, 22 2018 @ 01:52 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Propagandalf

originally posted by: soundguy
Im definitely morally superior to any trump humping deplorable. a reply to: Propagandalf



If you have to say you are, you probably ain't.


Explain your reasoning.

To me, explaining your moral basis to another, is a reasonable enough thing to do.


Moral people don't go around telling people how morally superior they are.



posted on Nov, 22 2018 @ 01:55 PM
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originally posted by: Propagandalf

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Propagandalf

originally posted by: soundguy
Im definitely morally superior to any trump humping deplorable. a reply to: Propagandalf



If you have to say you are, you probably ain't.


Explain your reasoning.

To me, explaining your moral basis to another, is a reasonable enough thing to do.


Moral people don't go around telling people how morally superior they are.


Then how do you communicate that you feel morally superior?

(I think that most people believe that they are morally superior to everyone else, so it's really all only opinion, IMHO).

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