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originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
Nothing wrong with being an atheist, or not.
The thing is, saying someone is an atheist only based on a few definitions of god or spirituality, but not all, seems to me to be incomplete.
There also is an occult, esoteric belief that such consciousness or energy must have some scientific basis. Perhaps unknown as of yet. They sound like you..
That’s why I think people need to stop thinking in this dualistic binary of western religion versus materialistic science or atheism. It’s really reductionist and is very culturally constrained.
a reply to: Annee
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
Nothing wrong with being an atheist, or not.
The thing is, saying someone is an atheist only based on a few definitions of god or spirituality, but not all, seems to me to be incomplete.
There also is an occult, esoteric belief that such consciousness or energy must have some scientific basis. Perhaps unknown as of yet. They sound like you..
That’s why I think people need to stop thinking in this dualistic binary of western religion versus materialistic science or atheism. It’s really reductionist and is very culturally constrained.
a reply to: Annee
Atheist means Lack of Belief in a God/Deity
It has no other meaning.
originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
Nothing wrong with being an atheist, or not.
The thing is, saying someone is an atheist only based on a few definitions of god or spirituality, but not all, seems to me to be incomplete.
There also is an occult, esoteric belief that such consciousness or energy must have some scientific basis. Perhaps unknown as of yet. They sound like you..
That’s why I think people need to stop thinking in this dualistic binary of western religion versus materialistic science or atheism. It’s really reductionist and is very culturally constrained.
a reply to: Annee
Atheist means Lack of Belief in a God/Deity
It has no other meaning.
The problem is your definition of god/deity. If your operational definition of ‘god’ only includes a few culturally constrained ones, but idea of energy matches with other definitions of deity, higher power, etc, then?
To paraphrase: “I’m an atheist because I disbelieve in only a few versions of deity or higher power.”
That’s different than those who disbelieve in not only those but also disbelieve in some kind of evolving or conscious energy .
originally posted by: Lysergic
a reply to: gortex
Sounds like a crazy trip on that chemical in your brain that causes you to dream that cannot be mentioned.
Researchers speculate it's released during dreams, birth and death.
Maybe spirit molecule is the "kosher" term
originally posted by: Blue Shift
originally posted by: GBP/JPY
That art....wow the colors in a red iron steel structure how cool
Looks like an old magnetic computer memory core.
originally posted by: gortex
I felt there was a whole set of possibilities. Various lives and reincarnations that were being offered to me. But I didn’t want them. I made it very clear that I wanted to return to my body, to my time, to my wife and to go on living. I needed to be proactive. I said I was coming back. I said it as a demand not a request.”
Again, definitions matter. A lot of people base identities on reductionist or incomplete metrics.
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
Nothing wrong with being an atheist, or not.
The thing is, saying someone is an atheist only based on a few definitions of god or spirituality, but not all, seems to me to be incomplete.
There also is an occult, esoteric belief that such consciousness or energy must have some scientific basis. Perhaps unknown as of yet. They sound like you..
That’s why I think people need to stop thinking in this dualistic binary of western religion versus materialistic science or atheism. It’s really reductionist and is very culturally constrained.
a reply to: Annee
Atheist means Lack of Belief in a God/Deity
It has no other meaning.
The problem is your definition of god/deity. If your operational definition of ‘god’ only includes a few culturally constrained ones, but idea of energy matches with other definitions of deity, higher power, etc, then?
To paraphrase: “I’m an atheist because I disbelieve in only a few versions of deity or higher power.”
That’s different than those who disbelieve in not only those but also disbelieve in some kind of evolving or conscious energy .
NO. I am not responsible for other people labeling their belief as god.
Labeling other beliefs as God has no meaning to me.
I support science and a scientific reason for those things that are not yet known.
originally posted by: Realtruth
originally posted by: gortex
I felt there was a whole set of possibilities. Various lives and reincarnations that were being offered to me. But I didn’t want them. I made it very clear that I wanted to return to my body, to my time, to my wife and to go on living. I needed to be proactive. I said I was coming back. I said it as a demand not a request.”
This disturbs me about reincarnation situations.
Who exactly is offering these possibilities? And what are the motives behind recycling our souls/spirit so quickly without due diligence, and total understanding.
If options were being presented so fast, it sounds to me like a "Snake Oil Salesman's Pitch". I understand he was dying, but the fact there was an apparent rush job to pick, or him having to demand is concerning.
Personally I want plenty of space, no deception, no rush, and the ability to do exactly as a wish, without the rush.
Secular spirituality is the adherence to a spiritual philosophy without adherence to a religion. Secular spirituality emphasizes the personal development of the individual, rather than a relationship with the divine. Secular spirituality is made up of the search for meaning outside of a religious institution; it considers one's relationship with the self, others, nature, and whatever else one considers to be the ultimate. Often, the goal of secular spirituality is living happily and/or helping others. en.m.wikipedia.org...
a reply to: Nothin
Don't get any of that "rush-job" you're describing from the OP?
Also: how does the universe usually respond to your wants?
originally posted by: Realtruth
a reply to: Nothin
Don't get any of that "rush-job" you're describing from the OP?
Also: how does the universe usually respond to your wants?
Not sure if you are asking questions, or giving input.
Just as there is deception in life, there is deception in other realms as well. Since full awareness is elusive currently, spiritual discernment is a must, and a universal right for all.